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Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:20:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:32:05 AM EDT
[#2]
nice.....


+ 1 for the good guys...
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:39:05 AM EDT
[#3]
So there is hope for washington after all.....



Hey Simple_in_Seattle....I AM the IT security guy that does HR investigations for my company .  I also helped write the "acceptable use policy"
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:39:18 AM EDT
[#4]
HOORAYThat bitch got less than she deserved. I hope she pops off again and gets terminated. What a douche bag.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:52:01 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:



Great update.  Glad it turned out well




+1
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:52:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Good luck with the hag.  Protect your ass and file if she comes near you, period.  There is no reason to be nice to the bitch, even if you tried it would be pointless.  I had a similar experience about 10 years ago.

My ex-wife got the dykes from payroll to feed her my pay and private information, account numbers and every damn time a check came my way it was preceeded by a phonecall demanding money and threats for more legal action from my ex.  I asked nicely for it to stop, I confronted them and insisted it stop, I promised if it did not I would get serious.  In the end, I got two people transferred and demoted and caused a shit storm.

EIGHT years later, one of them is hiding in the office of a manager I had a run in with.  She sent a nasty email about my "abusive behavior" and whatever and threatens to file HR complaints.  My ass is promptly in a crack.  I had witnesses in my favor and opt for the full blown lawyer and fight.  Suddenlt, everybody shuts up and asks me to drop it and play nice.  Upon further review, she admits it is an attempt on revenge from the last thing.  Now she has moved on once again.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:58:47 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
So there is hope for washington after all.....



Hey Simple_in_Seattle....I AM the IT security guy that does HR investigations for my company .  I also helped write the "acceptable use policy"



IT sercurity is a common theme.....


I don't do investigations but sometimes help with them.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:05:09 AM EDT
[#8]
wow, that is great news!!!
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:16:26 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
WHen you are done telling her to kiss YOUR ass, tell her to kiss MY ass too.



+1
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:34:33 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Get her home address then head to 7-11 and buy every smut magazine they have in stock and sign her up for subscriptions to every single one of them.  Just don't forget to check the "Bill me" box before you mail them off

ETA: Do the same with all the gun magazines too!



Get the Gun related magazines delivered to her work....

Taffy
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:38:43 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Get her home address then head to 7-11 and buy every smut magazine they have in stock and sign her up for subscriptions to every single one of them.  Just don't forget to check the "Bill me" box before you mail them off

ETA: Do the same with all the gun magazines too!



Get the Gun related magazines delivered to her work....

Taffy



Yeah, because XD won't get blamed for sending firearms literature to her after this incident
You're probably kidding Taffy, but I just had to add that.

Good luck XD!  You definitely played it cool on this one!
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:39:24 AM EDT
[#12]
cool
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:53:51 AM EDT
[#13]
Great update!
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 9:01:39 AM EDT
[#14]
Get her an NRA membership.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:01:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Wow. Its over, at least I guess it is.

After I posted the update I went out to get some coffee. Came back and her car was in the lot. The Chief LE was also sitting in my cube. Wearing jeans and a polo instead of a suit. He was also reading the issue of Small Arms Review that was on my desk! He said he'd come over to observe. We talked some about SAR and he asked some questions about my particular shooting interests, also about myself. Talked to my boss a minute or two and left. Said he's see us at 9.

So the appointed time rolled around and we'd all gathered in the conference room. 10 minutes go by and in comes the lawyer from yesterday with hagzilla in tow. She makes a little speech about how difficult its been working with us, tells everyone what a evil, gut-eating, baby-killer bastard I am and says that she's gonna "get me" for what I've done to her. That's when Chief LE stood and took charge.  4 security guys appear and physically remove her screaming, frothing at the mouth ass from the building. I mean they picked her up and carried her out and dumped her ass on the lawn!!! Didn't see that part but the guy up front told me about it. He said they tried to put her down nicely but with all the kicking they just kinda threw her over onto the grass. She got dumped again after trying to go after one of the guards. After that I guess she just sat and cried a few minutes, got in the kerry mobile and left. Legal, HR and security are packing her shit now. We've been told to not talk about this and that its done. We all move on.

When I got back to my desk I found voice mail from her. She made some rather creative suggestions about my heritage, attitude and generally made a lot of empty threats. She didn't threat to kill my dog or burn the house down so it was all idle angry words. (Besides I'm the one who sleeps with 2 nines, a .357, AR and 870 next to the bed) I forwarded the VM to legal. They said not to worry about any legal action as they will cover me if there is any. Did call the wife to let her know what's going on. The 870 is now muzzle down in the umbrella stand next to the front door. Wife said its easier to get to that way! (She scares me sometimes.)

So that's it. I'm really surprisd she was so irrational about this whole thing. In many ways I feel really bad for her. She's a very attractive woman, also intelligent and articulate. Just has a really messed up attitude some things. As in card-carrying uber-liberal. And I don't understand her dislike of me. I've always been polite to her, never even said anything off-color around her, or participated in the office gossip about her,  so I'm a bit mystified. I'm certainly not going to get therapy over the deal but jeez.





Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:01:18 AM EDT
[#16]

I do feel kinda bad for her but I also recognize that she has brought most of her woes down on herself with her fucked attitude.


XD- You really are a nice guy, but WTF??? Think she'd feel the same way if you were packing the contents of your cubicle out the door with a security escort??????

It's one thing to hold an opinion, but another to cause your beliefs and opinions to dictate your behaviour.

I'm genuinely happy for you and the way this all turned out!

ETA-See what I mean....

She makes a little speech about how difficult its been working with us, tells everyone what a evil, gut-eating, baby-killer bastard I am and says that she's gonna "get me" for what I've done to her. That's when Chief LE stood and took charge. 4 security guys appear and physically remove her screaming, frothing at the mouth ass from the building. I mean they picked her up and carried her out and dumped her ass on the lawn!!! Didn't see that part but the guy up front told me about it. He said they tried to put her down nicely but with all the kicking they just kinda threw her over onto the grass. She got dumped again after trying to go after one of the guards.

So that's it. I'm really surprisd she was so irrational about this whole thing. In many ways I feel really bad for her. She's a very attractive woman, also intelligent and articulate. Just has a really messed up attitude some things. As in card-carrying uber-liberal. And I don't understand her dislike of me. I've always been polite to her, never even said anything off-color around her, or participated in the office gossip about her, so I'm a bit mystified. I'm certainly not going to get therapy over the deal but jeez.

Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:12:36 AM EDT
[#17]
XD, Im glad to see that this worked out for you and that your company did right by you. Alot of companies these days would have sided against you from the go.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:22:35 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:28:48 AM EDT
[#19]
Loudmouth Libs are starting to be seen as just that loudmouthed
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:35:01 AM EDT
[#20]
I love this part:


She makes a little speech about how difficult its been working with us, tells everyone what a evil, gut-eating, baby-killer bastard I am and says that she's gonna "get me" for what I've done to her.



Here's what I want to know....through what kind of logic did you become a baby-killer? And she's gonna "get you" for what YOU did to HER? Classic displacement and transferrence of blame represented by most uber-lib's.....

I'm really getting steamed over this....
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:47:33 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
XD, Im glad to see that this worked out for you and that your company did right by you. Alot of companies these days would have sided against you from the go.



Apparently the lawyer who did the investigation did. She expressed the opinion several times yesterday that I and the other manager should have been terminated for inappropriate behaviour at work, i.e., discussing building his AR at the office. She said as much to me again this morning. Even after getting a large portion chewed out of her posterior.

Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:54:35 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Loudmouth Libs are starting to be seen as just that loudmouthed



Ahhh, the libs in the office called her a liberal. You should see her car!! Every liberal bumper stick you ever seen. Including some originals I think. One really crazy one said, stop the genocide, get the USA out of iraq. During the election someone put a Bush/Cheney sticker on her car. She was out there with a putty knife taking it off. Paint and all. Crying the whole time.

Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:56:32 AM EDT
[#23]
Outstanding!

It's always refreshing to see the "bad guy" get theirs in office politics.

All too often it goes the other way due to mealy-mouth management types.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 10:56:50 AM EDT
[#24]
XD....
When I meet you, I am buying you a henShe made the typical liberal homo ant-gun ass out of herself, and the people who work at your company know about it and will remember! You made the gun owners of Washington proud today.
hail2.gif Justice was served. This pathetic vermin that got fired has a lot to learn about life. hacko.gif
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:00:13 AM EDT
[#25]
That is wonderful news XD - I hope everything continues to go well around the office for you.

Thanks for brightening the day a little.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:04:59 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
I love this part:


She makes a little speech about how difficult its been working with us, tells everyone what a evil, gut-eating, baby-killer bastard I am and says that she's gonna "get me" for what I've done to her.



Here's what I want to know....through what kind of logic did you become a baby-killer? And she's gonna "get you" for what YOU did to HER? Classic displacement and transferrence of blame represented by most uber-lib's.....

I'm really getting steamed over this....



I'm not angry about any of this. You shouldn't be either. Hey, its America. I spent a long time protecting her right to be a crazy lunatic. I was actually surprised to see that she had the nerve to stand up for her convictions. More than I've seen some 2nd amenders I've meet willing to do.

As for me being a baby-killer; I was in the military. Just ask any true lib. They'll tell you how it is and how it works. Especially the ones who were never in or ever knew anyone who ever was. They are the true experts on military life.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:15:50 AM EDT
[#27]
Looks like everything turned out great, for you. Don't lose sleep over it. She's a dumb ass. I really don't see shooting any different than just about any other sport. Play golf every day and never see an accident, but take a driver to someones skull and you can kill them. If you are a boxer with the right equipment, no body gets hurt, pull a Tyson and people get killed/hurt. It's about responsibility and accountability. There are some jerks out there that have given our sport a bad rap.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:30:16 AM EDT
[#28]
Ignorance pisses me off to no end, and I guess someone believing they have the right to be a crazy lunatic does the same.

All in all,  I have to agree with you, but you handled it far better than I would have.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:36:53 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

I'm not angry about any of this. You shouldn't be either. Hey, its America. I spent a long time protecting her right to be a crazy lunatic. I was actually surprised to see that she had the nerve to stand up for her convictions. More than I've seen some 2nd amenders I've meet willing to do.

As for me being a baby-killer; I was in the military. Just ask any true lib. They'll tell you how it is and how it works. Especially the ones who were never in or ever knew anyone who ever was. They are the true experts on military life.



You are a good man, that's for sure.

She has a right to say what she wishes.  However, if what she says creates a hostile work enviornment for others, she can be fired for it.  That's the american way.

She chose to stand up for what she believed in.  I commend her on being steadfast in her beliefs - even if they are misguided.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:44:50 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
When I got back to my desk I found voice mail from her. She made some rather creative suggestions about my heritage, attitude and generally made a lot of empty threats. She didn't threat to kill my dog or burn the house down so it was all idle angry words.



I think this here's the point.  The people who are against us owning guns are the same people who are afraid to own them themselves because they have such a lack of self-control.

Glad to hear it worked out, XD.

In my case, I left WA and came to TX.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:51:49 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:


ETA - What kind of industry are you in?





No kidding.  He has a Palm Pilot.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:55:02 AM EDT
[#32]
As far as Hagzilla is concerned:  There's something to be said for not rocking the boat when there's no call for it.  I don't know what is worse, apathy or fanaticism.

Had the tables been turned, I wouldn't have apologized either, but then again I wouldn't be jumping all over my coworkers with my unwanted opinions.  She got what she deserved; hopefully she'll learn her lesson and temper her fanaticism with a little bit of respect for other people's political ideas.

XD - good job!  If I were you I'd watch my back for a little while - she might not be dangerous to you physically (or she might) but IMO she will definitely try to hurt you in some way.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 11:59:28 AM EDT
[#33]
Okay, my last words on this.

I'm glad this is over and I still have my job. Least for now. I'm am surprised that I didn't at least get a warning of some kind. Especially since the politically correct are in charge around here. We have an unreal number of incompetent managers who facilitate mediocrity. Not to mention the overt approval of some of the more deviant life styles some of the people here parade around. I mean I'd get canned in moment for talking about my sex life and preference. Why do I have to listen to swishy-boy telling me how big his lover is? I've been told that I'm intolerant when I've complained.

Dispite all the woman's issues she is/was/can be very pleasant to be around. You just have to be very, very careful not to hit one of her hot buttons. I do feel bad for her that she lost her job today. I sincerely hope the company doesn't fight her on unemployment. And I do hope that someday she'll grow up enough to realize her rose colored glasses are smudged and dirty. And until yesterday she's never done anything to me except express her opinions about how fucked up she thinks I and my beliefs are. So what, my friends do that too. Am I supposed to hate them for it? Besides, of all the scars on my body, not one was caused by words. No all in all I think we all lose on this deal. As much as I hated her politics, her expertise is going to be missed. And on the rare occasion that she actually dressed like a woman she was very easy on the eyes. Not that I ever looked.

As for my own take on this. I do think that what happened was inevitable. Sooner or later this gals mouth was gonna overload her ass. Yesterday it did. At the same time I got to hear indirectly what everyone thinks about me. Some people that I would never have expected to say much of anything, much less any nice about me, expressed some very high praise of me. And I take away the acknowledgement that my refusal to participate in office gossip or to say bad things about people I work with (don't get me started about my brother-in-law) is viewed so positively. Apparently one guy said I'm the only person he would trust to give a fair assessment of a co-worker. He said its a real shame I'm not a department head. I haven't done anything noble here. I was always taught to be respectful of others and treat them as I would like to be treated. I am the one brutally honest person in my group. But I'm also the only one who sees the shades of gray. The one thing people seem to loose sight of a lot, is that we go through life alone. I don't care how many friends and family you have. There ain't nobody else in the meat popsicle but you. No wife, no friend, nobody, its always just you. Alone with the cacophony of thoughts that are you. Its nice to get some reassurance that your efforts aren't all for naught once in a while. Yesterday and today I got to see and hear how others think of me and where I fit in their scheme of things. A precious insight. I'll take it, even with the baggage.

cheers all,



"May you have an interesting life." Old chinese curse
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:05:56 PM EDT
[#34]
Can we find her side of the story on DU

Good job on being a rational example of our side  XD_Fan  

GM
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:14:40 PM EDT
[#35]
I love this update, things don't always turn out this well.  Bravo on staying calm and keeping the high ground.  When people lose control like your pal did, they lose credibility even if they're in the right.  Once again bravo.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:23:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:29:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Im ust glad to hear you are still alive...




You Gut eating Baby killer!
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:29:07 PM EDT
[#38]
XD_Fan, I'm very glad things all worked out in the interest of reason for once. Please let your wife know that if she were to drop the plastic cork from a champagne-type bottle (sparkling cider, etc) into the umbrella stand, stem up, and slip the muzzle of the 870 over it, it will prevent damage to either the stand or the shotgun. I've used these for years after an old friend in the Thurston County Sherriff's Office told me about their many uses-- in an upright barrel they are wonderful for keeping dust out of the tube. Take care.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:37:12 PM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Im ust glad to hear you are still alive...




You Gut eating Baby killer!



She actually said that. Instantly made me think of Alice's Restaurant.

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill.  I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill.  Kill.  I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth.  Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL."  And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL."  And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 12:38:09 PM EDT
[#40]
[beer[beer]]

I am giddy with joy

The crazy thing is she thought she had a case and the lawyer bitch thought so to.

You do know this could have turned out with you being the one fired if just one of the people incharge had a different outlook you may have been out of a job.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 1:06:53 PM EDT
[#41]
OOOOH MAMA!!!! This is better than T.V. When this all started I predicted that nothing would happen to you. If you had brought reading materials to work on how to build a meth lab things would be different however guns are legal, therfore looking at pics of guns can not be construed as illegal or unethical or anything else. Good job.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 1:16:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Good for ya XD-fan,

I am amazed she would spew that vitriol in front of others. My gosh, there are some crazy folks in this world. You sure have more patience than I!

Loved Alice's Reataurant. "I was sitting on the group W bench..."

Best of luck bro.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 1:33:23 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
WHen you are done telling her to kiss YOUR ass, tell her to kiss MY ass too.



Big Fuk'ing +1 to that!


/Add my white ass cheeks to the list she can kiss too...  
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 3:39:16 PM EDT
[#44]
Well Mr XD. So many people will now buy you beer, you will never have to pay to get drunk again.

For sure everyone here is proud of you!
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 6:48:32 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

For sure everyone here is proud of you!




+1

Great show of restraint! I don't know that I'd have been able to do the same.
Glad it worked out for you
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:11:47 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
So the appointed time rolled around and we'd all gathered in the conference room. 10 minutes go by and in comes the lawyer from yesterday with hagzilla in tow. She makes a little speech about how difficult its been working with us, tells everyone what a evil, gut-eating, baby-killer bastard I am and says that she's gonna "get me" for what I've done to her. That's when Chief LE stood and took charge.  4 security guys appear and physically remove her screaming, frothing at the mouth ass from the building. I mean they picked her up and carried her out and dumped her ass on the lawn!!! Didn't see that part but the guy up front told me about it. He said they tried to put her down nicely but with all the kicking they just kinda threw her over onto the grass. She got dumped again after trying to go after one of the guards. After that I guess she just sat and cried a few minutes, got in the kerry mobile and left. Legal, HR and security are packing her shit now. We've been told to not talk about this and that its done. We all move on.











He who laughs last, laughs best.


I.O.U. one beer, reedeemable upon demand when and wherever I see you.

Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:14:22 PM EDT
[#47]
XD_Fan, however you did it, you're a hero to me.


She's a very attractive woman, also intelligent and articulate*.


* Maybe not so much. I see a limited and frustrating future for her. Well, there's always France.
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:18:18 PM EDT
[#48]
BTW, I ripped off your title....
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 7:43:58 PM EDT
[#49]

Xd,
An outdamnstanding on your professionalism in the work place.
I like your attitudes and sense of humor through this trying time as well.
Funny the things we take away from military service....
honor, professionalism, responsibility, all the things the antis think soldiers arent.

Move over dammit, your taking my seat on the group W bench!
DaddyDett
Link Posted: 4/19/2005 8:20:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Thanks for warming my heart with this story.  I think the lady lawyer should have been fired first -- for fanning the flames by siding against  you.  She was probably the one who wouldn't let it drop when the complaint was filed/investigated.  She was certainly biased -- and she tried to railroad you.  

If the lawyer had been fired for the one-way bullshit in the investigation, it would have been a timely lesson for the liberal co-worker.  She would have been able to adjust her attitude accordingly, and it might have enabled her to come up with an apology.

As it was, she was still under the influence of the lawyer lady at the 'apology' session, and was unable to do other than heap more grief on your head.    I hope she is smart enough to start thinking for herself some day.



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