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9/1/2006 6:10:03 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
I will get off work for this. It will be nice to finally put some faces to the names. See ya there.

Mark



he must work for the atf



9/1/2006 7:28:51 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I will get off work for this. It will be nice to finally put some faces to the names. See ya there.

Mark



he must work for the atf







Oh crap, my cover's blown. "the fox is in the hen house." I repeat, "the fox is in the hen house" leaps out window



Mark
9/2/2006 12:31:11 PM EDT
[#3]
I should be there.  
9/3/2006 8:01:11 PM EDT
[#4]

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I should be there.  


Yes, you should.
9/4/2006 8:33:13 AM EDT
[#5]
If you need another RO, I'm willing to help out, I'm a Firearms Instructor for KY Dept. of Corrections. Or if you need anything let me Know.

Danny
9/5/2006 9:37:12 AM EDT
[#6]

Also, we are going to have at least one car for everyone to shoot up.


Really, there NEEDS to be more that one.  I know the lower range is fairly small, but if any of you guys talk to Kenny, do your best to get him to drag two or three down there.  It's not long 'til you're just shooting through the holes.  If you haven't seen this, try hitting the lower range on Sunday during the machinegun shoot after the targets have been there all Saturday.  I'm thinking I'll be there if I take off Friday and stay at a hotel for the night.  That way, I can tell the wife it's a "vacation."  That sound better than "gun shoot."
9/5/2006 11:02:00 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Also, we are going to have at least one car for everyone to shoot up.


Really, there NEEDS to be more that one.  I know the lower range is fairly small, but if any of you guys talk to Kenny, do your best to get him to drag two or three down there.  It's not long 'til you're just shooting through the holes.  If you haven't seen this, try hitting the lower range on Sunday during the machinegun shoot after the targets have been there all Saturday.  .........


Yup, I hear what you're saying, but the car targets aren't free to get and then get taken away once they're obliterated, lol.  If I had my way we'd have 1 car and 1 school bus per shooter.  KCR themselves aren't providing the car target, but they are providing the contact, and especially no extra charge for reserving the lower range all to ourselves.  I really don't want folks here to have to pay anything more than just the basic $9 range fees that Kenny and KCR require of us.  Therefore, I think the one car will suffice.  Think of it as a bonus as opposed to no car  Besides, isn't it part of the fun just to see how friggin' ragged you can make the car, hehe.

As I mentioned before though, everyone is welcome to bring any targets of your own, as long as you take away what you bring.  There will also be 2 cases of tannerite provided for as many shootes as it will accomodate, let alone just the spectator fun
9/5/2006 11:17:13 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
If you need another RO, I'm willing to help out, I'm a Firearms Instructor for KY Dept. of Corrections. Or if you need anything let me Know.

Danny



Thanks for the offer, Danny.  Once we're a little closer we'll finalize everything, but I think we're going to be ok right now.

9/19/2006 2:59:05 PM EDT
[#9]

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Alright guys--I go so excited about this shoot I placed an order for a BGA Viper .50 cal yesterday!!!!!!  Should be ready in about 4 weeks.  Wife still loves me but is concerned.  I justified it to her by saying "Well, if Jeep29 doesn't bring his we may not have one"---J/K    It may not have optics on it by that time but what the hell.


Well, I got it today!  Nice--all black.  I am still wondering why I bought this thing?  Pics coming in the next few days.  Got a 10X Super Sniper on right now....

Let's shoot!
9/20/2006 7:45:13 AM EDT
[#10]
That's great, cgcg97.  Congrats on the .50!  Look forward to see what it'll do to the target car
9/22/2006 4:21:54 PM EDT
[#11]




Here's what's coming with me!!  All semi
9/22/2006 6:25:27 PM EDT
[#12]
VERY NICE!! I look forward to seeing that .50 in action!!
9/25/2006 5:00:11 PM EDT
[#13]
I think you guys in KY have all the fun!   Love that Red River Gorge.

Going to drive down for a long day to check out the sights.

no guns worthy of coming with, but hoping for good ammo deals
9/25/2006 7:04:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Hey ChopperBob.  Not sure, but you might be thinking about the regular Knob Creek machinegun shoot since you are mentioning that you'r looking for ammo deals. We'd love to have you join us at our shoot, but you might be dissapointed if your looking for ammo deals.

The regular infamous biannual Knob Creek Machinegun Shoot is Oct. 13th, 14th and 15th.  We are having a KY ar15.com Hometown Forum get together shoot ( of course other states are invited and welcome ) later that month on Oct.28th.  I'd hate to see someone make a mistake and think they are showing up to the regular Machinegun shoot on our Oct.28th date

9/26/2006 2:42:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks, Stump.    I was thinkin the MG shoot.  I been makin plans to drive down Halloween wkend for a while now..... don't know where we got the date wrong   haha

We would come down for a three gun match and shoot with you guys to beat the cold here.


9/26/2006 4:19:41 PM EDT
[#16]
Good deal, glad we got that straightened out.  I appologize for not making it more clear in my initial posts.  You are not the only one that has gotten confused by this, I'm trying to make it more clear from now on and have edited the first announcement.

Enjoy the MG shoot when you come, Knob Creek puts on quite a show
9/26/2006 6:33:03 PM EDT
[#17]
Do the ARFCOM thing and do both!

Bob
9/27/2006 2:22:34 PM EDT
[#18]
If this crowed is anything like the machine gun crowed, im showing up in my body armor, and im leaveing early!! The show is great, but after just 2 hours of the rude assholes at the shoot im over it and tell myself im never going back.
9/27/2006 10:29:13 PM EDT
[#19]
I will be there for the MG shoot and the ARFCOM shoot. I only live a few miles from there so it's not really out of the way. I'll probably call in sick though.ho
9/28/2006 4:52:57 AM EDT
[#20]
BeaterAR, I've been going to the regular Machinegun Shoots since around '97.  I think there has only been maybe one year that I didn't go to atleast either the Fall or Spring shoot.  I'm sure there are a lot of guys here that have been going longer than I, but I have never had a bad experience with rude people, at least not to the point it sounds like you have.  Try going to the Machinegun Shoots on the Friday instead of Saturday, a somewhat smaller crowd, it's just a bit easier to get around, YMMV.
Wheatie, that is just wrong, what kind of a sick sob wants to shoot up a good keg?!?!?  

Although, if you want a good beer AFTER the shoot, there are some real classy joints real close to the range, just look for the pink buildings, lol.  

Oh yeah, welcome to the site, wheatie!
9/28/2006 5:19:23 AM EDT
[#21]
I have never had a problem with rudeness or safety at the machine gun shoot either. Some of the dealers are... well, they act like dealers, but what can you say? It is a gun show.

But to compare ARFCOMers to the general public at a machine gun shoot is just not fair.

I have not seen any rude behavior at ANY shoot I have attended.

Bob
9/28/2006 5:53:59 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Although, if you want a good beer AFTER the shoot, there are some real classy joints real close to the range, just look for the pink buildings, lol.  


 

If people really want to go to that type of establishment, one of co-workers brothers is the manager at PT's.  I'm sure I can work something out.
9/28/2006 7:09:11 AM EDT
[#23]
I did introduce myself when I joined the site, but with the large number of members i doubt anyone saw it. Maybe I should've posted it in the KY forum. But hey, if we're going to the "clubs" after the shoot I'll need to shave first....clean'em off a place to sit.
9/29/2006 9:09:35 AM EDT
[#24]
Damn I got drill that week end so i will miss it.  That freaking sucks  

Any of you guy member of the league that shoot on the second Saturday of the month(at the creek).  KPDL?
10/3/2006 3:32:11 PM EDT
[#25]
I've got a Norinco M1A I haven't shot yet, need Go-NoGo gauges, if any of you guys that are coming to the shoot have a set, would you bring them please?  I want to make sure it's safe to shoot before I fire it.

Thanks,

Michael
10/3/2006 3:41:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Double Tap, sorry!
10/3/2006 6:58:58 PM EDT
[#27]
I will ask Kenny this weekend if he has a couple of grills we can take down to the lower range to make burgers and dogs if you guys want!
10/4/2006 1:30:24 PM EDT
[#28]

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I will ask Kenny this weekend if he has a couple of grills we can take down to the lower range to make burgers and dogs if you guys want!




To be honest, it had been mentioned to me before about the possiblity of doing something like that, I think it was Ky_Bob that had mentioned that he had been involved with other shoots before that did that.  I kind of forgot about it.

Not sure what Kenny would say, don't they have a grill open at the shop during business hours?

If the interest is there, and it would be ok with KCR, this would be a possiblity.  I'm sure we could get something together for going in on some food.  

So, Vengarr, how's your cooking skills, lol?  
10/4/2006 1:31:39 PM EDT
[#29]

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..........I want to make sure it's safe to shoot before I fire it.

Thanks,

Michael



Chicken

10/4/2006 5:41:56 PM EDT
[#30]
I am a damn good grill cook! I will ask SAturday when I am there.
10/4/2006 6:35:09 PM EDT
[#31]
Chicken is for the grill Stump!  I prefer optimistically cautious!
10/4/2006 7:20:22 PM EDT
[#32]
We could always grill commando style, if they say no. Hell if he says no then I will bring my pack stove and some grub.  

This is Kentucky, there has to be a frier in this mix ??
10/4/2006 8:43:01 PM EDT
[#33]
I don't see him saying no. I was allowed to shoot tannerite attached to gas cans with a road flare before. I cannot see making some burgers and dogs as a big deal.
10/5/2006 5:28:12 AM EDT
[#34]

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I don't see him saying no. I was allowed to shoot tannerite attached to gas cans with a road flare before. I cannot see making some burgers and dogs as a big deal.

10/5/2006 11:57:22 AM EDT
[#35]
huh?
10/5/2006 6:39:58 PM EDT
[#36]
Unfortunately I will not be able to attend as a CCW instructor class I have been trying to get into is happening on the 28th and 29th! I wills till ask about bbq and such though.
10/6/2006 5:34:18 AM EDT
[#37]

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huh?

I just was laughing at the road flares and gas cans comparison to the burgers and hot dogs. Somehow I think they will let the hot dogs slide.
10/13/2006 2:53:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Hello everyone. I am really looking forward to meeting each of you at the shoot. I have attended a lot of these functions around the US and over time have developed a general safety guideline. I ran it past Stump and he has asked me to post it. So here it is. This way everyone will have a general idea of what is expected and how things will work.

If anyone has any suggestions, please feel free to email or IM me and not post in the thread as I do not want this organizational thread turn into a debate about range rules.

As I said before, I can't wait for this shoot to happen. Stump did a little reconnoitering today at the machine gun shoot and I am sure he will jump in here shortly with a range report.



General Safety rules

1) Always obey the 3 basic rules of safety. Here is a refresher.

1) ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction
2) ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot
3) ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use


2) The firing line

The firing line will be clearly marked with yellow caution tape. All shooters should fire only from the line. Your toes should be touching the line unless you are shooting prone then the muzzle should be acroos and downrange of the line. Belt fed weapons will of course sit back from the line with muzzles over the line.

No loaded weapons on the range except on the line. This means that magazines are inserted into weapons at the line and removed before leaving the line. Ensure the weapon is unloaded before leaving the line.

No one crosses the firing line without it being cleared.

     
3) Clearing the firing line

Clears will be sounded with an air horn. No one crosses the line until all participants acknowledge the clear. No changing of targets without a clear.

Weapons should not be handled during the clear, loading magazines is fine.


     4) Eye and ear protection is required.




     Shooting other people weapons

One of the best parts of these shoots is shooting other peoples weapons. There is nothing like trying out a rifle or pistol you have been eying before actually buying it. Any arrangement you come to with the other person is fine but there are some “rules of etiquette” if you will.

Most all Class III owners will let you shoot their weapons for the asking provided you supply the ammunition. Some of the most generous owners will even supply ammunition, but if you think about it, this can get prohibitively expensive at a larger shoot when they are handing out free 30 round magazines of .223 ammunition to anyone who asks. So be prepared to offer to shoot your own ammo.

Some owners are pickier than others and may have requirements such as brass cased factory ammo only, or no “brand X” ammunition or no reloads. Considering the amount of $$ invested in these weapons I think that is more than understandable.
10/13/2006 7:34:06 PM EDT
[#39]
Bob, thank you much for your help and agreeing to be the safety guy for us all.  We all need to pay attention to the guidlines and adhere to them, and also just be aware that anyone we may bring with us adheres to them as well.  We're going to have a good time blowing up and shooting the crap out of the targets, but we want to be safe at the same time.  For most of us, these guidlines are common sense, but it's always a good idea to refresh our memories.




I went to Knob Creek today for their big Machine Gun Shoot.  It was a great showing for a Friday, and while I was there I scoped out the lower range we will be using for our Ky shoot together on the 28th of this month.  I had no idea, but Knob Creek has built a very nice covered shelter for the shooting line on our lower range.  This just makes the lower range an even better situation for us than I even realized.


The shoot is now only 2 WEEKS AWAY    I hope everyone has stocked up on ammo, lol. - Jeff
10/14/2006 7:36:18 AM EDT
[#40]
I'm planning on being there as well
10/15/2006 1:18:47 PM EDT
[#41]
There will be a hotdog cart on site for the 29th! I really wish I could be there, but my instructor course is that weekend.
10/16/2006 6:42:27 PM EDT
[#42]

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There will be a hotdog cart on site for the 29th! I really wish I could be there, but my instructor course is that weekend.


Well that's great,vengarr, but our shoot is on the 28th  


I tried to get up with Kenny this afternoon, since it was raining I thought maybe he wouldn't be too busy with the clean up from the weekend, but he wasn't around when I called.  I'll get with him in the next day or two and post our final information for the shoot and what exactly will be available for us all.
10/16/2006 8:22:31 PM EDT
[#43]
well the hotdog cart vendor is the RO on Saturdays. So he cannot be there on the 28th. I need to call hima dn tell him not to go Sunday or he'll kill me!
10/17/2006 6:12:16 AM EDT
[#44]
Lol, vengarr.  Thanks for trying, you meant well at least  
10/17/2006 11:49:03 AM EDT
[#45]
I noticed that people have mentioned bringing .50 cal bolt guns to the shoot.  It has been my experience that Kenny (KCR) will allow any weapons up to but not including .50 cal on the lower range.  I've only seen .50's allowed on the main (upper) range.  Also, tracers are typically not allowed on the lower range.  If those of you kind enough to organize this get together could get clarification on these two issues, it might save a couple shooters from packing prohibited ordnance.  Also, for those who have never seen the lower range, I believe it's somewhere around 100-yds. from the line to the backstop.  Thanks again to those who are making this possible.  I plan to be there to meet all of you.  We should all pray for the weather to cooperate as well.
10/17/2006 12:15:39 PM EDT
[#46]
Thanks, number1goofball.  I saw the signs this past weekend on the lower range that mentioned Up To .50, but I didn't notice the including .50 part.  I will get verification on this from Kenny.  I tried to call him today, but no answer as they are always closed on Tuesdays.  I figured I'd give it a shot anyway, I'll try back tomorrow morning.
10/17/2006 2:16:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Forgot to mention as well, when I first contacted Kenny about getting the lower range all to ourselves, I asked him waht kind of restrictions are there on the lower range as opposed to the main range.  He told me at that time pretty much everything that goes for the main range, goes for the lower range.

Like I said though, I will check to make sure, but I think .50 is allowed, maybe just not during the official Machinegun Shoot.
10/17/2006 2:34:39 PM EDT
[#48]
Thanks in advance for clarifying the .50 Stump.  I would hate to lug that thing down there and not be able to use it.  I also have a question for those bringing FA items that would allow me to shoot them.  Since there might be several different calibers would it be ok if I just paid you on a per mag basis?  30 round mag=$10-$15.... I figure this would be easier than trying to guess which calibers to bring.
10/17/2006 4:20:40 PM EDT
[#49]
I have run into this in the past. Since I try to live and learn, I will have 5.56 ammunition that is acceptable to fire in my M16 for sale. you will have to bring your own 9mm if you want to try the 9mm upper. Winchester White Box from Wally world in bulk is probably the cheapest ammo you can buy.

Bob


10/18/2006 12:19:46 PM EDT
[#50]
cgcg97, I just got off the phone with Kenny, and unfortunately the rule is no .50 and over.  I'm very sorry I didn't know this ahead of time, I sincerely appologize.  Of course though, you can shoot the rifle all you want up at the main range at any time of the day while you're there, as your $9 range fee covers both ranges for your use at any time you want.

Sorry for the bummer news.

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