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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:45:59 AM EDT
basically a P11 with a rail and a safety. See them selling for a hair north of $300. 10rd mag. Still plastic sights...
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Posted: 4/6/2019 4:37:22 PM EDT
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Not a ruger fan huh?
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:25:18 PM EDT
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They've been putting out hot garbage lately. It's truly a head scratcher.
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:30:57 PM EDT
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Ruger: Making KelTecs that work!
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:41:40 PM EDT
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 Attached FileLooks fine to me. I’ll never buy one tho. It kinda blows my mind just how many companies are putting out CC pistols these days. You think the market would be saturated by now. We have had 20years of really sold modern CC guns made. Still makes me scratch my head. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:53:04 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/291DB207-8E4B-49EF-9767-A7D23E88ACD5_png-903641.JPG Looks fine to me. I’ll never buy one tho. It kinda blows my mind just how many companies are putting out CC pistols these days. You think the market would be saturated by now. We have had 20years of really sold modern CC guns made. Still makes me scratch my head. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:04:13 PM EDT
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The Sig 365 I view as new and somewhat ground breaking. Everything else is just the same old thing to me.
And as someone who owns a G26 and a G42 something truly special has to get me motivated buy. The Sig 365 almost does it for me but the issues they are having keep me from buying. I guess we have a large number of first time gun buyers each year which is kinda where I see the gun excelling in sales at. That’s a great thing by the way. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:16:29 PM EDT
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The P11 is an inch shorter, slightly thinner, hammer fired DAO, 4 ounces lighter. In fact it's smaller and higher capacity than the Sig 365.
The Ruger is closer to a Glock 26, so how is it a P11 clone? |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:28:54 PM EDT
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The P11 is an inch shorter, slightly thinner, hammer fired DAO, 4 ounces lighter. In fact it's smaller and higher capacity than the Sig 365. The Ruger is closer to a Glock 26, so how is it a P11 clone? |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 9:48:01 PM EDT
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The Sig 365 I view as new and somewhat ground breaking. Everything else is just the same old thing to me. And as someone who owns a G26 and a G42 something truly special has to get me motivated buy. The Sig 365 almost does it for me but the issues they are having keep me from buying. I guess we have a large number of first time gun buyers each year which is kinda where I see the gun excelling in sales at. That’s a great thing by the way. |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 11:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Ruger is closer to a Glock 26, so how is it a P11 clone? |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 11:11:17 PM EDT
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Fire control unit and the entire gun design is a stolen KelTec design. Just supersized. Look at an exploded view of each. Basically identical internally...just like the LCP & the P3AT Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The Ruger is closer to a Glock 26, so how is it a P11 clone? |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:53:15 AM EDT
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So are these DAO hammer guns? |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 10:36:46 AM EDT
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If it is close to the SR9C in size, I might pick one up as an extra for my cc rotation. I am sad to see the SR series go away.
Great shooting pistols, and I could remove 2 of the 3 biggest complaints people had of them quicker than upgrading a glock shitty trigger. The thumb safety can just be ignored, which was the 3rd complaint, |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 6:19:59 PM EDT
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The thumb safety can just be ignored, which was the 3rd complaint, |
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Posted: 4/12/2019 12:36:17 PM EDT
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I will have to see how much they are on gun deals. I considered getting another sr9c, as they are great pistols, and my favorite carry gun. I might grab one of these and shoot the piss out of it and see how it does. I have never had issues with any of them except a p95 that took 2 pulls of the trigger to fire some steel cased ammo.
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Posted: 4/18/2019 12:56:58 AM EDT
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So they took a concept, improved it, changed the styling, made it more reliable, produced them in greater numbers to increase availability, added features, and in a smaller frame?
Some clones get tons of positive attention (Tanfo, Canik), but Ruger is evil for modifying something that Kellgren chose not to patent? |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 10:03:03 AM EDT
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but Ruger is evil for modifying something |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 1:24:19 PM EDT
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who said that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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but Ruger is evil for modifying something |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 2:45:31 PM EDT
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I hate to break it to people but "browning action locking block" has been pretty much 75% of the pistol industry for quite a few years, blow back has been 20%, with the last 5% being novel or oddball designs (gas retarded blow back(HK p7, walther CCP) rotating block(CX9 bereta ), couple direct impingment gas blow back(desert eagle, and Webley from deathwish). I'm sure I'm being way to general but there hasn't been a "NEW" design for pistols in a while. striker fired was a pretty novel idea back in 1980, but that was nearly 40 years. any significant improvements since then, refinements(standard rail sizes, abdidextrious stuff, size lines with mags swappable (glock 26, 19 17), safety triggers) but no groundbreaking stuff?
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Posted: 4/18/2019 7:28:14 PM EDT
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They've been putting out hot garbage lately. It's truly a head scratcher. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 7:29:13 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/291DB207-8E4B-49EF-9767-A7D23E88ACD5_png-903641.JPG Looks fine to me. I’ll never buy one tho. It kinda blows my mind just how many companies are putting out CC pistols these days. You think the market would be saturated by now. We have had 20years of really sold modern CC guns made. Still makes me scratch my head. |
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Posted: 4/21/2019 9:01:45 PM EDT
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So... when will Ruger
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Posted: 4/24/2019 3:48:24 AM EDT
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Or better yet, a pmr30 improvement that doesn't have 20 or so Chinese sourced screws holding it together.
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Posted: 4/24/2019 6:36:54 AM EDT
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Or better yet, a pmr30 improvement that doesn't have 20 or so Chinese sourced screws holding it together. |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 12:43:20 PM EDT
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would be nice if RIA would make one of those ^^^ with a milled aluminum frame All the fcg holes would be in some asshole metric size. You would be forced to purchase oversized forged parts to fix their junk and the grips would never fit right. 
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Posted: 4/24/2019 1:17:13 PM EDT
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I had a chance to attend an organized youth/beginner shooting class as a volunteer instructor. Ruger Security 9s and ammo were provided by the venue. Easily one of the worst handguns I’ve ever had the pleasure of trying. Terrible trigger. Difficult and gritty to rack. The slide stop was extremely hard to drop.
After about 30 minutes minutes during a break, another volunteer instructor and I went to our vehicles and got our car-guns. Both were bone stock Glock 19s with weapon lights... 
We spent the rest of the time using our own Glocks to loan out during training. |
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Posted: 4/25/2019 9:08:28 PM EDT
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I had a chance to attend an organized youth/beginner shooting class as a volunteer instructor. Ruger Security 9s and ammo were provided by the venue. Easily one of the worst handguns I’ve ever had the pleasure of trying. Terrible trigger. Difficult and gritty to rack. The slide stop was extremely hard to drop. After about 30 minutes minutes during a break, another volunteer instructor and I went to our vehicles and got our car-guns. Both were bone stock Glock 19s with weapon lights...
We spent the rest of the time using our own Glocks to loan out during training. I'm planning on getting a Compact if I see one locally and can put my hands on it first. |
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Posted: 4/27/2019 11:16:15 PM EDT
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I had a chance to attend an organized youth/beginner shooting class as a volunteer instructor. Ruger Security 9s and ammo were provided by the venue. Easily one of the worst handguns I’ve ever had the pleasure of trying. Terrible trigger. Difficult and gritty to rack. The slide stop was extremely hard to drop. After about 30 minutes minutes during a break, another volunteer instructor and I went to our vehicles and got our car-guns. Both were bone stock Glock 19s with weapon lights...
We spent the rest of the time using our own Glocks to loan out during training. |
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Posted: 4/28/2019 10:36:14 PM EDT
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This is exactly the opposite of my experience with the S-9. Fit and finish is on par with any other polymer gun, no problems with the slide or internals. The trigger is as good as most, and better than some contemporary striker triggers. I'm planning on getting a Compact if I see one locally and can put my hands on it first. |
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Posted: 4/29/2019 6:42:37 AM EDT
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I almost did it but decided to buy some ammo instead. |
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Posted: 5/10/2019 2:01:48 AM EDT
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I had a chance to attend an organized youth/beginner shooting class as a volunteer instructor. Ruger Security 9s and ammo were provided by the venue. Easily one of the worst handguns I’ve ever had the pleasure of trying. Terrible trigger. Difficult and gritty to rack. The slide stop was extremely hard to drop. After about 30 minutes minutes during a break, another volunteer instructor and I went to our vehicles and got our car-guns. Both were bone stock Glock 19s with weapon lights...
We spent the rest of the time using our own Glocks to loan out during training. |
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Posted: 5/17/2019 6:34:10 PM EDT
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Well, bought one today.
It should compliment my regular Security 9 and SR9e well. This thing does smell like old school brake free clp, the kind wiff teflon in it. Really the only thing to bitch about so far is I'm thinking about slapping the frame in the mill and taking off the warnings. I hates warnings although these are tiny in comparison to when Bill used to full RETARD them on Rugers. And the Block guy is full of shiet. I own a couple of those too. 
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Posted: 5/18/2019 8:10:16 AM EDT
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I'm thinking about slapping the frame in the mill and taking off the warnings. Post pics |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 11:57:51 PM EDT
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I had a chance to attend an organized youth/beginner shooting class as a volunteer instructor. Ruger Security 9s and ammo were provided by the venue. Easily one of the worst handguns I’ve ever had the pleasure of trying. Terrible trigger. Difficult and gritty to rack. The slide stop was extremely hard to drop. After about 30 minutes minutes during a break, another volunteer instructor and I went to our vehicles and got our car-guns. Both were bone stock Glock 19s with weapon lights...
We spent the rest of the time using our own Glocks to loan out during training. |
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Posted: 6/30/2019 2:53:42 AM EDT
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I bought a Security 9 full size a few months back. The trigger is not bad. I like it. The sights are highly visible and interchange with different colors Ruger sells.
I have probably fired 500 rounds of all kinds with not one problem. No brass to face, no weak ejection, nothing. Only two complaints I have are it feels a little nose heavy and spare magazines are atrocious in price. I like it better than my SD9VE. It is more than accurate for self defense. |
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