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Posted: 2/24/2023 9:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Barrel? Magazines? Yes, you'll need a 10mm barrel. I've been able to use 10mm in .40 2011 mags with no changes needed, but that may depend on your specific mags. |
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Posted: 2/24/2023 10:56:35 PM EDT
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The Glock 20 comes in Gen 2 (out of production for a long time), Gen 3, Gen 3 SF, Gen 4, and Gen 5. Gen 3 SF, Gen 4 and Gen 5 have a shorter grip front to back so they feel a bit less bulky in the hand.
I had a Glock 40 briefly. It's a beast of a handgun. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 3:43:05 PM EDT
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I'd get an EAA in 10mm or a Sig P220 series - if you want to spend some coin.
If not then a G20 or 40. |
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Posted: 3/2/2023 10:07:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: have you shot the 10mm yet? mine has been extremely problematic. mags eject every other round with spicy loads. i can see the mag catch making indentations on rounds in the magazine, so the thought is the extra recoil is causing that to push on the spring and eject the round. The XDm Elite in 10mm is a great gun compared to, IMO, every other readily available 10mm. It’s also a smoking value, PSA sometimes runs specials. |
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Posted: 3/4/2023 12:12:57 AM EDT
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The G29 with G20 15rnd clipazines shoots well, even without a gap filler.
And the 10rnd mags are tolerable as well, with a solid grip. Though I strongly recommend the pinky baseplate for the 10rnd'rs. I love the recoil from it; big, heavy, without being peaky. But damn that beast is thick. For a small gun it is not small 
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Posted: 3/7/2023 8:44:36 AM EDT
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My 10mm arsenal includes several G20's, an M&P 10 4", Sig Xten and a Ruger 1911. While all are good, at this time the M&P 10 is my favorite. The Sig is starting to catch up and may equal the M&P at some point in the near future. The SIG fits my hand the best with the Smith not far behind.
In reality they all are good it comes down to personal preference. |
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Posted: 3/7/2023 12:40:22 PM EDT
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A far more practical solution that's ballistically similar, but has a number of advantages over any 10mm pistol, is a S&W 686 or Ruger GP-100 in .357Mag. My personal preference is one with a 4" or 5" barrel. If you really want a pistol, and don't mind polymer, I would look into the S&W or a Glock. If I didn't already have a Gen3 G21, whose frame I can use with a 10mm upper, I would focus on the S&W as they generally offer better ergonomics and, in my opinion, better materials, however still suffer from the continued superfluous aesthetics (machining and sculpting) akin to a 1980's men's ring that one would find in a store such as Sears or Kmart.
Happy shopping! |
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Posted: 3/7/2023 2:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A far more practical solution that's ballistically similar, but has a number of advantages over any 10mm pistol, is a S&W 686 or Ruger GP-100 in .357Mag. My personal preference is one with a 4" or 5" barrel. If you really want a pistol, and don't mind polymer, I would look into the S&W or a Glock. If I didn't already have a Gen3 G21, whose frame I can use with a 10mm upper, I would focus on the S&W as they generally offer better ergonomics and, in my opinion, better materials, however still suffer from the continued superfluous aesthetics (machining and sculpting) akin to a 1980's men's ring that one would find in a store such as Sears or Kmart. Happy shopping! Being that it’s 2023, how would you suppose that a 4 or 5” .357 revolver is more practical than a 10mm auto? Longer, thicker, heavier, more recoil with just over 1/3 of the capacity. Not to mention that 10mm ammunition has become more commonly available than .357 mag. |
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Posted: 3/7/2023 5:11:44 PM EDT
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10mm Glocks suck because they shoot & feel no different then any other Glock. If you carry .40 Glocks like I do, it's a waste. I went with the RIA double stack 10mm. If you run out of boolets, it can be used as an effective hammer.
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Posted: 3/9/2023 9:47:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 10mm Glocks suck because they shoot & feel no different then any other Glock. If you carry .40 Glocks like I do, it's a waste. I went with the RIA double stack 10mm. If you run out of boolets, it can be used as an effective hammer. Huh? |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 12:26:20 PM EDT
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I don't have any 10mm, but the Tanfoglio offerings look pretty dang interesting to me.
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Posted: 3/9/2023 7:42:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being that it’s 2023, how would you suppose that a 4 or 5” .357 revolver is more practical than a 10mm auto? Longer, thicker, heavier, more recoil with just over 1/3 of the capacity. Not to mention that 10mm ammunition has become more commonly available than .357 mag. It's 2023 and most vehicles still use internal combustion engines; yeh, so what?! It's all a matter of opinion, tastes, and needs. Yours are obviously different than mine. |
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Posted: 3/9/2023 10:34:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahh, the G40 would make a nice combo with one of my favorite guns, my G17L. Maybe I'll go with that. Do you know if there's a Gen 3 version of it - not that big of a deal but I'd prefer that version as I've been into and out of the guts of that version from my Poly80 build. I have the G40 and honestly, as a carry gun is just a little unwieldy compared to my 1911s and G20. Promotions for the S&W 10mm had me curious but handling one just didn’t seem right, though the rebate makes up for it. Now that bears are waking back up, there’s a good chance I’ll sell the G40. |
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Posted: 3/12/2023 10:37:09 PM EDT
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Who else thinks that HK should make a USP in 10mm?
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Posted: 3/13/2023 1:05:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who else thinks that HK should make a USP in 10mm? They do. It’s just called .45 Super. |
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Posted: 3/13/2023 4:18:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have any 10mm, but the Tanfoglio offerings look pretty dang interesting to me. The generic Tanfo 10mm Witnesses are junk. Now, however, there's an Italian Firearms Group (IFG) making not-junk 10mm Witnesess with upgraded Tanfo parts. Check GB specifically for IFG 10mms. |
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Posted: 3/13/2023 4:23:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who else thinks that HK should make a USP in 10mm? Yes ... although it is said that a goodly number of folks have tried "converting" .40S&W HKs to 10mm, starting with reaming out the barrel to 10mm specs. I don't know whether HK .40 mags are 10mm compatible length-wise. |
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Posted: 3/15/2023 8:34:21 PM EDT
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Get a Glock.
Pick a gen, any Gen. Best 10mm to date. |
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Posted: 3/15/2023 9:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get a Glock. Pick a gen, any Gen. Best 10mm to date. How many 10mms have you owned? |
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Posted: 3/15/2023 10:08:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many 10mms have you owned? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Get a Glock. Pick a gen, any Gen. Best 10mm to date. How many 10mms have you owned? I can’t speak for him but I agree and have owned a 1006, 1076 and Witness, in addition to the Glocks. |
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Posted: 3/15/2023 11:26:48 PM EDT
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Just get the new gen5 Glock 20 and throw that holosun scs on it since it's a perfect fit on the mos system that Glock uses. I have a gen4 Glock 29 that I exclusively use with the 15rd Glock 20 magazines and the x-grip sleeve. The grip is very comfortable with that setup and it's basically a Glock 29x. I might still get a gen5 Glock 20 if it's a blue label.
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Posted: 3/16/2023 9:42:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many 10mms have you owned? Owned? New model Delta Elite. Sig P220 Hunter and a XD-M OSP, plus my Gen4 G20. So 4? Glock is best. Best as in shoots the most variety of ammo reliably as accurately as humanly possible consistantly with no malfunctions or maintenance in the lightest weight per rounds ratio. |
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Posted: 3/16/2023 6:26:27 PM EDT
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I ended up seeing a good deal, for what it is, on a FN 510, and bought that. I have a FN FNP Tac in .45, and like the high supressor night sights, the threaded barrel, and the optics mount. So the 510's similar set up will do me well I think.
Thanks to all who provided input. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 5:46:17 PM EDT
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I'm just getting into the 10mm game so my experience is small and a sample size of one. But,
I work in a gun store so I get to handle and sometimes shoot any gun that comes in. So far I like the feel of the Sig X10 and the FN510. They have slimmer grips that seem to fit my average hands the best. The S&W 10mm is nice as well but I have heard rumblings of reliability issues longer term. Whatever that may be, no personal experience. I own a RIA 10mm 1911 double stack. It's nice but the grip feels huge. I have a G21 with a KKM 10mm barrel, Haven't shot it but I have used .45 super in it so I think the recoil will be about the same. All this to say, try out the FN 510 and the Sig X10 for double stack 10mm Of course you could go with the single stack 1911 models for a more familiar feel and function as any other 1911. I can't recommend the RIA double stack if for no other reason than the grip feel. The XD examples seem to fit weird in the hand but that's probably just me. The Compact XD with the magwell funnel removed seems nice but the barrel is really short and I'm not sure you'll get the full flavor of the 10mm out of it. |
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Posted: 3/19/2023 7:17:56 PM EDT
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For my next 10mm, I’m still waiting for a credible variant in that chambering on the 2011-platform.
Single-stack 1911s are passé except as range toys … A double-stack 1911 in 10mm, with reliable mags, does compete with the hi-cap 10mm poly guns. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 12:05:29 AM EDT
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What about the new M&P 2.0 10mm Performance Center with 5.6” barrel?
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:43:08 AM EDT
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I have two 10mms. One sits by my bedside, one goes into a holster to carry. Both are Glocks. The 40 MOS is by my bedside, the Gen 3 29SF is the one that goes with me. We had a bit of a bear problem up here last year with a juvenile bear getting into people's trash and stuff. I loaded both guns with Federal HST in 10mm and considered myself to be well armed with both.
The 40MOS was a pussycat with even the hottest 10mm loads from Underwood or Buffalo Bore while the Gen 3 29 let you know when the trigger was pulled, especially with the hotter rounds. With the Federal HST rounds both are pretty tame with the 40 seeming more like a .40 S&W in the same gun. I know the 10mm Federal HST rounds are not TRUE 10mm rounds (200 grain bullets @ 1250 fps) but the work just fine for me. To those of you who suggest the .357 magnum, I have a 386 Mountain gun that weighs a whopping 24 ounces and holds 7 shots, but it is still a huge gun relative to the G29. Besides, most of the Underwood or Buffalo Bore stuff I use recommend AGAINST using them in a light framed gun (for fear of bullet pull). |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:49:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about the new M&P 2.0 10mm Performance Center with 5.6” barrel? I generally tend to avoid Performance Center guns like the plague. I had a Performance Center gun (1911 Officers model) that would absolutely not shoot a second or third or fourth time. The external extractor was too long and the gun wouldn't go into battery. I also have a .460 PC gun. I figured the barrel was one piece. NOPE! Three pieces. Barrel, Shroud (not the shoulder thing that goes UP) and muzzle brake. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:33:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm a bit interested in this gun as a first 10mm. Will see if I can get my hands on one in the near future to check out. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 7:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EAA Witness Mine shoots great! Put the 20lb recoil spring in it. |
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Posted: 6/17/2023 2:08:53 PM EDT
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If I had to choose, I'd probably go with a G20 Gen5. The M&P 10mm's might be okay but I've been seeing reliability issues from those to a degree, but personally I wouldn't buy a Springfield product ever.
The 1911 is okay, I just don't think that it's the best platform for 10mm. For one do-it-all 10mm, I'd get a G20.5 if I just had to have a 10mm. |
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Posted: 6/19/2023 11:03:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2023 10:30:30 PM EDT
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Strongly considering the Sig X-Ten. It looks like a P320 just in 10mm, which to me is a good thing. I have owned a G20SF Gen3, and it was a chunky monkey, just didn't care for the ergos.
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Posted: 7/1/2023 2:10:21 PM EDT
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OP I'm not sure this has been answered yet but just an FYI, there is not a ton of difference working on the internals from Gen 3-5. There are some differences but its nothing you cant figure out from having taken apart a Gen 3.
I am a believer in the 10mm G20 or 40. If you want to be in the city I'd go 20, for the woods or hunting 40. If you IWB then its likely not a ton of difference which is why I just swapped my 20 slide for a 40. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What about the new M&P 2.0 10mm Performance Center with 5.6” barrel? I just picked one up, waiting for the weather to shoot it. So far, I like it, night sights, and ported. Suppose to be a better trigger. |
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