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Posted: 1/26/2020 8:49:18 PM EDT
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I've only got one that hasn't been modified, a WWI 1911 seen here sandwiched between an Inglis Hi Power and a French MAB P-15.
Attached File I've also got two customized property-marked guns, a 1911 and an A1. |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54321/20200126_171559_jpg-1251302.JPG I know the pic sucks , but it's a Remington Rand made in 44 shoots very nice . View Quote Lots of good old guns here. Keep 'em coming. |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_2278_JPG-1256140.JPG Another Remington Rand. View Quote |
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Much Awesome Sauce in here!!!!!!
Puts a smile on my heart, all these gorgeous guns!!!!! How do you guys' guns run? My 44 RR is a beast!!!! Accurate, too!!!!! |
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My grandfather Carried this 1911 in World War One. It saved his ass. He died when I was a baby, I wish I got to know him. He gave it to his son in law, my father, telling him to give it to me on my 18th birthday. ...and that every son, down each generation would get it on his 18th birthday. I grew up shooting it with my dad. I wanted to master it. He also brought home a Luger, that I didn't get until my father passed. now they are together again. https://i.imgur.com/zIBy8JP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NeUpcLW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9XydGaB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/b6XCSLM.jpg View Quote |
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My grandfather Carried this 1911 in World War One. It saved his ass. He died when I was a baby, I wish I got to know him. He gave it to his son in law, my father, telling him to give it to me on my 18th birthday. ...and that every son, down each generation would get it on his 18th birthday. I grew up shooting it with my dad. I wanted to master it. He also brought home a Luger, that I didn't get until my father passed. now they are together again. https://i.imgur.com/zIBy8JP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NeUpcLW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9XydGaB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/b6XCSLM.jpg View Quote Did he live to a ripe old age? What character, what story it speaks! The hammer, serifs and position of the rampant Colt suggests WGP stamp? Is it? Or is it GHS? |
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@WWIIWMD He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Superb! Did he live to a ripe old age? What character, what story it speaks! The hammer, serifs and position of the rampant Colt suggests WGP stamp? Is it? Or is it GHS? He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this |
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@WWIIWMD He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Superb! Did he live to a ripe old age? What character, what story it speaks! The hammer, serifs and position of the rampant Colt suggests WGP stamp? Is it? Or is it GHS? He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg Of course, LL mags were found in service pistols all the way through VJ Day |
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@WWIIWMD He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Superb! Did he live to a ripe old age? What character, what story it speaks! The hammer, serifs and position of the rampant Colt suggests WGP stamp? Is it? Or is it GHS? He lived a long life Both my mother and father spoke very highly of him. Is this stamp you are looking for ? https://i.imgur.com/g90JzQw.jpg Department Of The Navy colored movable transparency with "bullets" in its aluminum hard case for USMC training and one of few surviving Cutaway relics, no two are alike |
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Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg View Quote What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek |
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@WWIIWMD What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek On M1911 of your era, an IM of your serial number sent here gets you its shipping date, quantity in shipment and destination of shipment. For your pistol, there is a number underneath the barrel. Am interested in the stamp on barrel top which can be seen through the ejection port without disassembly and on top rear of barrel hood Ordnance Inspector (WGP) Assemblers stamps by the disconnector at top rear of receiver Numeral on slide interior and/or other stamp |
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@WWIIWMD What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek One of our Thompsons is a Late War M1A1... when a close friend examined it, he was astonished- "How did you find a matching M1A1! None of these match!!" Because when cleaned, uppers were pulled out of the solvent bucket without regard to the lower and reassembled. They are so rare, didn't even bother to ask my good friend (one of the largest NFA dealers) if it matched when bought it from him back east. Such is the case with many old pistols and fully explains why eye would go 18 months at a stretch passing on say, 12 to 20 different US&S listed on various sites. For 10 years, eye purchased every "correct" Switch offered online in the US but for each one obtained, 10 were passed over due to "problems" with this or that issue. A basic mint WWI barrel of varying year of production can fetch $800 or more with little trouble. A first pattern barrel can exceed the cost of many pistols. The problems with adding parts not original to the pistol are the destruction of "as found", wrecking originality, failure to match wear patterns, mismatched condition and resulting inauthentic weapon. We don't swap parts: while acceptable in a few instances, parts changes, obliteration of UNITED STATES PROPERTY and refinishes were innocently done in decades past, some creating the occasional confounding unknowns in the Authentication process. eta completed thought |
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https://i.imgur.com/siFSUkK.jpg CMP gun https://i.imgur.com/F6YTFMk.jpg 1918 Colt, WW2 rework View Quote |
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@WWIIWMD What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek Here are the two aspects, whorizontal and vertical of the P H and H P stamps, H is for Hosmer, P is for Proof Each WWII pistol was fired 21 times at the factory or 3 mags of 7 rounds in rapid fire. There is color 16mm film of this being done at the US&S factory in Swissvale. Each WWI pistol was fired once with a high pressure Proof round |
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If yours is a WWI barrel, on the barrel top (excuse this photo) there will be a P H or H P stamp, either read parallel with bullet flight path or read perpendicular with bullet flight path. Remember, many parts were changed by Armorers, soldiers and early civilian owners without ill intent. Another challenge of deciphering parts. One of our Thompsons is a Late War M1A1... when a close friend examined it, he was astonished- "How did you find a matching M1A1! None of these match!!" Because when cleaned, uppers were pulled out of the solvent bucket without regard to the lower and reassembled. They are so rare, didn't even bother to ask my good friend (one of the largest NFA dealers) if it matched when bought it from him back east. Such is the case with many old pistols and fully explains why eye would go 18 months at a stretch passing on say, 12 to 20 different US&S listed on various sites. For 10 years, eye purchased every "correct" Switch offered online in the US but for each one obtained, 10 were passed over due to "problems" with this or that issue. A basic mint WWI barrel of varying year of production can fetch $800 or more with little trouble. A first pattern barrel can exceed the cost of many pistols. The problems with adding parts not original to the pistol are the destruction of "as found", wrecking originality, failure to match wear patterns, mismatched condition and resulting inauthentic weapon. We don't swap parts: while acceptable in a few instances, parts changes, obliteration of UNITED STATES PROPERTY and refinishes were innocently done in decades past, some creating the occasional confounding unknowns in the Authentication process. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vJ5PPpp/0/a54f3a69/O/i-vJ5PPpp.jpg eta completed thought View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek One of our Thompsons is a Late War M1A1... when a close friend examined it, he was astonished- "How did you find a matching M1A1! None of these match!!" Because when cleaned, uppers were pulled out of the solvent bucket without regard to the lower and reassembled. They are so rare, didn't even bother to ask my good friend (one of the largest NFA dealers) if it matched when bought it from him back east. Such is the case with many old pistols and fully explains why eye would go 18 months at a stretch passing on say, 12 to 20 different US&S listed on various sites. For 10 years, eye purchased every "correct" Switch offered online in the US but for each one obtained, 10 were passed over due to "problems" with this or that issue. A basic mint WWI barrel of varying year of production can fetch $800 or more with little trouble. A first pattern barrel can exceed the cost of many pistols. The problems with adding parts not original to the pistol are the destruction of "as found", wrecking originality, failure to match wear patterns, mismatched condition and resulting inauthentic weapon. We don't swap parts: while acceptable in a few instances, parts changes, obliteration of UNITED STATES PROPERTY and refinishes were innocently done in decades past, some creating the occasional confounding unknowns in the Authentication process. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vJ5PPpp/0/a54f3a69/O/i-vJ5PPpp.jpg eta completed thought Several years ago I sold a horizontal H 1911 barrel in very nice shape for very close to 3K. The buyer was happy as hell. I likely could have sold it for more but he had a 1911 that needed that barrel and wasn't a flipper. I bought the barrel and a bunch of other parts for $50.00 years before. Barrel looked trashed but after an hour or two of scrubbing, the rifling was in exceptionally nice shape and there was no frosting. |
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IM sent on s/n I posted pics of this 1911 several years ago on another forum. somebody asked about the barrel, and when I sent pics, he said it was not the original. The next day, I was driving to a USPSA match, and called my father. He was old, and could not remember. He said he earned an expert ribbon at Cherry Point with this gun, and had the unit armorer look it over. He said he thinks he replaced the springs, and maybe the pitted barrel, but wasn't sure anymore. this was the last conversation I had with him. a few weeks later, he ran a stop sign, and got hit by a delivery truck. I spoke with the trooper who wrote the report and he said it was instant. currently uploading 24 pics to IMGUR, I think I locked it up. tempted to start an new thread on this, instead of hijacking this one, what do you guys think ???? I'll try to post some directly from my iphone, BRB |
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Barrels can go for WAY more then $800.00. Several years ago I sold a horizontal H 1911 barrel in very nice shape for very close to 3K. The buyer was happy as hell. I likely could have sold it for more but he had a 1911 that needed that barrel and wasn't a flipper. I bought the barrel and a bunch of other parts for $50.00 years before. Barrel looked trashed but after an hour or two of scrubbing, the rifling was in exceptionally nice shape and there was no frosting. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Thanks kindly! Colonel Walter G. Penfield, born 1878 first Ordnance Inspector on Colt's production s/n 1 to s/n 110000, and it once looked like this https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ns9QWXt/0/5cf51520/X3/i-ns9QWXt-X3.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-kqCrTJ7/0/379566ca/X2/i-kqCrTJ7-X2.jpg What should I be looking for in the 2nd photo ? I'm going to take some new pics, are there any other markings or stamps I should post ? Thanks Derek One of our Thompsons is a Late War M1A1... when a close friend examined it, he was astonished- "How did you find a matching M1A1! None of these match!!" Because when cleaned, uppers were pulled out of the solvent bucket without regard to the lower and reassembled. They are so rare, didn't even bother to ask my good friend (one of the largest NFA dealers) if it matched when bought it from him back east. Such is the case with many old pistols and fully explains why eye would go 18 months at a stretch passing on say, 12 to 20 different US&S listed on various sites. For 10 years, eye purchased every "correct" Switch offered online in the US but for each one obtained, 10 were passed over due to "problems" with this or that issue. A basic mint WWI barrel of varying year of production can fetch $800 or more with little trouble. A first pattern barrel can exceed the cost of many pistols. The problems with adding parts not original to the pistol are the destruction of "as found", wrecking originality, failure to match wear patterns, mismatched condition and resulting inauthentic weapon. We don't swap parts: while acceptable in a few instances, parts changes, obliteration of UNITED STATES PROPERTY and refinishes were innocently done in decades past, some creating the occasional confounding unknowns in the Authentication process. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-vJ5PPpp/0/a54f3a69/O/i-vJ5PPpp.jpg eta completed thought Several years ago I sold a horizontal H 1911 barrel in very nice shape for very close to 3K. The buyer was happy as hell. I likely could have sold it for more but he had a 1911 that needed that barrel and wasn't a flipper. I bought the barrel and a bunch of other parts for $50.00 years before. Barrel looked trashed but after an hour or two of scrubbing, the rifling was in exceptionally nice shape and there was no frosting. Barrels of that vintage can, their production ending in early 1912. A certain Captain Of Industry owns US NAVY No. 501, 502, 502, the first 3 NAVY Colt's ever made. They are all 98%+. A man like him with unlimited capital sets his own market but to his credit, is preserving them for future generations. So... you have a primo fire blued 1912 worth $80,000 or more: what would you pay for its 1 missing part? True, wear patterns will not match, but your pistol is missing a vital original and very, very scarce part. Exposed base magazines belonging to your barrel vintage too are over $2,500 and climbing. The last one eye bought without a pistol around it was $1,000. You wont be a bit surprised to hear of the maddening magazine release screw, the first pattern "contact lens" type without a screwdriver notch, occasionally hellish to remove, one sold for $1,000 many years ago to a fellow lacking only this part for his relic. This one on my earliest NAVY with no parts to find. The average worn but nice "abundant" WWI barrel still hovers under a thousand depending on variables. The astounding thing are prices for very crisp WWII High Standard barrels surpassing $500... For several years before one of the price surges, we bought a dozen NOS HS barrel found in green and brown wax wrappers, they ranged from $80 to $110. Now, NOS HS barrels from WWII would fetch previously unimaginable prices. But we do not sell, only monitor change. After pal Hayes and eye spent two days discussing history while touring his World Class kleckshun (largely 1760-1945 with emphasis on The War Of Northern Aggression), not one value had been discussed. He made his millions in mail order surplus and had no walk-in traffic. He told of a friend that had brought his friend to Hayes' shops. The dude had walked from item to item repeatedly blurting out- "What's that worth? What's that worth?" Hayes walked over unobserved to a long bank of light switches, turned them all off and proclaimed- "Uh oh, powers out, gotta close, goodbye sir!" We looked at each other and agreed- "We don't care what its worth, only what it cost." |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/2085D480-0815-4A50-81D6-A261029639FE_jpe-1258725.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/CFA08D5A-9C61-4A3F-8EB1-EABDE8B5EAFF_jpe-1258726.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/78304196-6E8E-4603-B9A1-2C37BB0D6CAA_jpe-1258729.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/3CE5A887-D3E0-40BD-9E5A-2283B7603211_jpe-1258728.JPG View Quote Thanks! WWII High Standard, the highest production barrel of WWII Completely acceptable for your pistol, many parts were changed, this one perhaps innocently changed prior to 1945. |
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Somewhere down in the dungeon I have a NOS unused HS barrel, was unwrapped but unmarked, no link installed. Looked, still have wrapped in an oily cloth.
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