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6/18/2023 8:18:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Quick zero check with my CCP at 15Y. Stock barrel with Fed 147 and Glock Perf Trigger. 1 Inch center to center

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What were the two pasters in the upper left about
6/18/2023 10:40:24 AM EDT
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Shooting the A zone corners before zero adjustments.

4 shots, 2 pasters
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
6/18/2023 12:26:51 PM EDT
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Silly ridiculous fad !!!!


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A question of etiquette... As i pass ..Do I give you the ass or the crotch..??
6/18/2023 9:23:40 PM EDT
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50y group. Under 6 inches (center to center)

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Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
6/19/2023 11:37:15 AM EDT
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Sighted in the Vortex Venom on the G47 today and damn....what a good shooter.  It almost makes it too damn easy, but I like it.
6/20/2023 9:44:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yeet-Cannon:
Cool new toy- factory ACRO cut M&P 2.0
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Visually I usually think the ACRO looks like crap on a pistol but this combo really looks good.
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6/21/2023 2:46:01 AM EDT
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deleted drunk post
"The right to buy weapons is the right to be free"
6/23/2023 11:56:20 PM EDT
[#8]
What about micro aimpoints?

6/24/2023 4:13:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jsxtreme:
What about micro aimpoints?

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Aimpoint should be yet another color of tan for maximum diversity.
“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men”
- Samuel Adams
6/25/2023 9:57:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jsxtreme:
What about micro aimpoints?

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Love the 6 second mounts. They’re super cool.
Shooting things from far away....ish.
6/25/2023 11:07:51 AM EDT
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6/25/2023 11:11:53 AM EDT
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@New2AR15s

Do you have a sealing plate for the rmr?  Doesn't look like you do. It's not water tight without it.
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
6/25/2023 4:17:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
@New2AR15s

Do you have a sealing plate for the rmr?  Doesn't look like you do. It's not water tight without it.
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
@New2AR15s

Do you have a sealing plate for the rmr?  Doesn't look like you do. It's not water tight without it.

Yes but it looks like there is a weird shadow in the photo
6/26/2023 9:55:12 AM EDT
[#14]
My other Glock 17

6/28/2023 1:07:22 PM EDT
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“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men”
- Samuel Adams
6/29/2023 11:37:23 AM EDT
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6/29/2023 11:57:38 AM EDT
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Go on
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
6/29/2023 12:20:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Go on
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Hellcat Pro w/ Holosun 407K [6 moa dot] and TLR-7 [1913]
7/3/2023 9:11:16 PM EDT
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7/8/2023 7:49:19 AM EDT
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7/17/2023 7:04:22 PM EDT
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From the GD pistols optics thread, posted by @NorCalRT

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Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
7/17/2023 7:08:35 PM EDT
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So still no closed emitter from Trijicon? Just a Holosun reticle for probably twice the price?
"Some get spiritual because they see the light, others because they feel the heat."-Ray Wylie Hubbard
7/17/2023 7:18:58 PM EDT
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Looks like it had a top load battery and forward facing light sensor.  Sorta meh honestly.

Standard RMR type 2 is a tank / awesome
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
7/17/2023 8:35:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Detn8r-Red2:


So still no closed emitter from Trijicon? Just a Holosun reticle for probably twice the price?
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Yeah, it’s really pretty embarrassing

If this is the type 3 and it’s the same cost as a type 2 I’d take it but still say they are failing to innovate


If this is a “new” model meant to shake up the industry they are delusional
7/17/2023 8:53:41 PM EDT
[#25]
This Boomer has always had problems with RMR equipped pistols due to too many years with iron sighted 1911’s. Until Friday. The Echelon that I handled just popped up ‘right’ for me and it was a WOW epiphany moment for me. Picking one up tomorrow to join the Kool Kids.  

7/17/2023 9:19:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Castillo:


Yeah, it’s really pretty embarrassing

If this is the type 3 and it’s the same cost as a type 2 I’d take it but still say they are failing to innovate


If this is a “new” model meant to shake up the industry they are delusional
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Originally Posted By Castillo:
Originally Posted By Detn8r-Red2:


So still no closed emitter from Trijicon? Just a Holosun reticle for probably twice the price?


Yeah, it’s really pretty embarrassing

If this is the type 3 and it’s the same cost as a type 2 I’d take it but still say they are failing to innovate


If this is a “new” model meant to shake up the industry they are delusional


It’s quite entertaining to me that some people consider it innovative to put a red dot in a tube.
“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men”
- Samuel Adams
7/17/2023 10:03:18 PM EDT
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There's a lot of hate and gnashing of teeth over this, but I rather like it.

Obviously time will tell, but I have no qualms with an open emitter.
7/18/2023 8:20:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Real_PhillBert:


There's a lot of hate and gnashing of teeth over this, but I rather like it.

Obviously time will tell, but I have no qualms with an open emitter.
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Open emitters are fine for range work, competition, even concealed carry.

The problems of an open emitter for duty/combat use is getting your rear lens obstructed or the emitter blocked. Snow, slush, rain, mud, leaves, whatever. Seen many a RMR packed full of snow during cold weather operations training.
7/18/2023 8:23:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Castillo:


Open emitters are fine for range work, competition, even concealed carry.

The problems of an open emitter for duty/combat use is getting your rear lens obstructed or the emitter blocked. Snow, slush, rain, mud, leaves, whatever. Seen many a RMR packed full of snow during cold weather operations training.
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Can happen to any optic including irons peep holes.

Aimpoints/Scopes can all get stuff packed into the objectives, especially the rear.
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
7/18/2023 8:37:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Can happen to any optic including irons peep holes.

Aimpoints/Scopes can all get stuff packed into the objectives, especially the rear.
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Yes, I totally agree. And then all you have to do is swipe your thumb over the rear lens and you are gtg

Not so much with an RMR
7/18/2023 9:11:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Castillo:


Yes, I totally agree. And then all you have to do is swipe your thumb over the rear lens and you are gtg

Not so much with an RMR
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Sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse - but any optic where the objectives are recessed within optic body (to protect from impact) and not flush is susceptible. This is most optics, barring few exceptions.

If your irons are behind a flush objective optic like the Acro, it's harder to wipe lower part of rear objective as well, since irons are so close to lens, although you still have a large window to utilize.

I agree with you for CCW it likely doesn't matter either way.  If I carried a pistol with exposed optic in war zone I'd prefer a P2 myself, although you see in the g19 in SF thread that a lot of cool guys been using RMR and DPP on open carry pistol setups

i will now concede I'm basing my comments on thoughts but you have experience - so I'm not saying you're wrong either
Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
7/18/2023 9:49:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse - but any optic where the objectives are recessed within optic body (to protect from impact) and not flush is susceptible. This is most optics, barring few exceptions.

If your irons are behind a flush objective optic like the Acro, it's harder to wipe lower part of rear objective as well, since irons are so close to lens, although you still have a large window to utilize.

I agree with you for CCW it likely doesn't matter either way.  If I carried a pistol with exposed optic in war zone I'd prefer a P2 myself, although you see in the g19 in SF thread that a lot of cool guys been using RMR and DPP on open carry pistol setups

i will now concede I'm basing my comments on thoughts but you have experience - so I'm not saying you're wrong either
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As usual, nail on head.
7/18/2023 3:24:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse - but any optic where the objectives are recessed within optic body (to protect from impact) and not flush is susceptible. This is most optics, barring few exceptions.

If your irons are behind a flush objective optic like the Acro, it's harder to wipe lower part of rear objective as well, since irons are so close to lens, although you still have a large window to utilize.

I agree with you for CCW it likely doesn't matter either way.  If I carried a pistol with exposed optic in war zone I'd prefer a P2 myself, although you see in the g19 in SF thread that a lot of cool guys been using RMR and DPP on open carry pistol setups

i will now concede I'm basing my comments on thoughts but you have experience - so I'm not saying you're wrong either
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Originally Posted By Fooboy:
Originally Posted By Castillo:


Yes, I totally agree. And then all you have to do is swipe your thumb over the rear lens and you are gtg

Not so much with an RMR
Sorry I'm not trying to be obtuse - but any optic where the objectives are recessed within optic body (to protect from impact) and not flush is susceptible. This is most optics, barring few exceptions.

If your irons are behind a flush objective optic like the Acro, it's harder to wipe lower part of rear objective as well, since irons are so close to lens, although you still have a large window to utilize.

I agree with you for CCW it likely doesn't matter either way.  If I carried a pistol with exposed optic in war zone I'd prefer a P2 myself, although you see in the g19 in SF thread that a lot of cool guys been using RMR and DPP on open carry pistol setups

i will now concede I'm basing my comments on thoughts but you have experience - so I'm not saying you're wrong either

Why failure drills are a must as part of the training and transitioning of RDSs. As they should be with all weapons.
7/26/2023 1:34:14 PM EDT
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Trijicon Enclosed emitter optic.

FWIW, I won't be getting one as I think the RMR type 2 is peak open emitter and more than sufficient for CCW. If I ever did see the need for an enclosed emitter, I'm not sure this RCR would be on my short list.

Uses same RMR footprint and, uh - interesting screws.
Same deck height
top load battery (so what)

ETA these screws won't work with threaded post screws like Battlewerx uses

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Isaiah 1:18 - "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD: "though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow"
7/26/2023 8:40:03 PM EDT
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Have they tossed an MSRP out there yet?
7/26/2023 8:46:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GingerShanks:
Have they tossed an MSRP out there yet?
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It cost more than you make in a month.
7/26/2023 8:51:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GingerShanks:
Have they tossed an MSRP out there yet?
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With the ACRO already out and a proven performer I can’t see it being absurdly far off from its peers in pricing, but I could certainly be wrong
7/26/2023 8:54:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GingerShanks:
Have they tossed an MSRP out there yet?
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RMR Type 2 MSRP is $731, I doubt it'll be less than that.
7/26/2023 9:06:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By November5:
It cost more than you make in a month.
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Hey, you’d be surprised what I make in a month.
Shooting things from far away....ish.
7/27/2023 12:16:19 AM EDT
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I'll have some hands on time with both the new Trijicons in a couple weeks.  I'll stop back by with some feedback and pics.
F$$K CANCER!!! RIP Jeff Reed.
7/27/2023 8:56:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By November5:
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Lol, like that has ever stopped me.
7/30/2023 10:31:06 AM EDT
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Anybody here have a lot of time behind the EPS Carry? Will possibly be dotting up the 43x MOS soon and going back and forth between the EPS carry and 507k X2. I have an RMR on my 19.5 but I'm not interested in the RMR CC.
Shooting things from far away....ish.
7/30/2023 10:55:39 AM EDT
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7/30/2023 11:05:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Virginia_Shooter:
Anybody here have a lot of time behind the EPS Carry? Will possibly be dotting up the 43x MOS soon and going back and forth between the EPS carry and 507k X2. I have an RMR on my 19.5 but I'm not interested in the RMR CC.
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I've been carrying an EPS carry - love the thing.  Same footprint as your 507k but it's enclosed, comes with a proper dot size (6moa).  I like it far better compared to my 507k
8/1/2023 3:40:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rush4theYehO:


I've been carrying an EPS carry - love the thing.  Same footprint as your 507k but it's enclosed, comes with a proper dot size (6moa).  I like it far better compared to my 507k
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This is something that, from a biological and neural signal processing perspective, makes no sense. Why is 6 MOA the "proper" dot size? There's no reason that your eye cannot pickup a pinpoint of light (infinitely small) compared to a 6 MOA dot, so long as the same number of photons are reaching your eye. Therefore, all a 6 MOA dot does is obscure more target area.

What am I missing?
Well, well, well. How the turn tables...
8/1/2023 4:06:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Will816:

This is something that, from a biological and neural signal processing perspective, makes no sense. Why is 6 MOA the "proper" dot size? There's no reason that your eye cannot pickup a pinpoint of light (infinitely small) compared to a 6 MOA dot, so long as the same number of photons are reaching your eye. Therefore, all a 6 MOA dot does is obscure more target area.

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It's not "proper" as much as preference for a lot of people.  They feel the larger dot is quicker to pickup and easier to track as the slide cycles.  And at handgun distances, 6 MOA really isn't obscuring that much of the target to matter.
8/2/2023 1:23:25 PM EDT
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Is this right?


8/2/2023 1:59:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Is this right?

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"I love the blue tint, I'll even add more!"
8/2/2023 2:14:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBecker_72:
Is this right?

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The church of Trijicon welcomes you to the flock of the occluded blue eye.

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