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Posted: 5/14/2019 8:14:06 PM EDT
My buddy is getting me one into his shop and I’m upgrading from an RMR to the SRO
Probably put the RMR on my shotgun. I got to handle one at the NRA show a couple weeks back.... much better than RMR to find the dot. Anyone else grabbing a SRO |
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[#1]
I'm sticking with my rmr. Eventually down the road may consider SRO.
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[#2]
How bright does the SRO get on the brightest setting?
Bright enough to not wash out on steel on a sunny day? Very tempted to buy one. Been needing a red dot for awhile but nothing on the market seemed to check all the boxes. |
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[#3]
I have one on order. I need to get my ass into gear and put my RMR v2 on the EE
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[#4]
I would like to at some point. First video I saw on the SRO, I was relieved to hear that it uses the same cut as an RMR. My one concern would be durability, since the housing design is drastically different (shaped) than the RMR's proven design. Yes, it is 7075 like the RMR but how the design distributes impact shock is what I would be concerned about (cracked/shattered lens). I do like the expanded viewing window, lack of "fishbowl" effect (from what I can tell from pics and video), minimal tint to the glass, and good battery life. It certainly is interesting and I will be following the reviews and reports.
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[#5]
I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the new SRO is not as tough as the RMR just by the shape of the shroud. The depth or front to back lense shroud is longer, which means more material, so can be stronger, but I don't think this overcomes the actual design flaw of the circular shape imparting any impact forces directly to the lens. I've seen a video where the SRO was racked off some surfaces and the pic showed a pretty beat up SRO, but no mention of dropping. I think it will be tough enough for me but RMR it ain't. Hell, lord Cowen busted an Acro, soooo...
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[#6]
I want one for the G40 but $ is tight right now so I’ll have to survive another season hiking in bear country with an RMR. There’s a problem bear in the neighborhood right now. I’d like to have the fastest sight picture possible.
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I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the new SRO is not as tough as the RMR just by the shape of the shroud. The depth or front to back lense shroud is longer, which means more material, so can be stronger, but I don't think this overcomes the actual design flaw of the circular shape imparting any impact forces directly to the lens. I've seen a video where the SRO was racked off some surfaces and the pic showed a pretty beat up SRO, but no mention of dropping. I think it will be tough enough for me but RMR it ain't. Hell, lord Cowen busted an Acro, soooo... View Quote RMR is a duty/defense optic. SRO is clearly aimed to be a competition optic. Competition guys don't purposely drop their guns onto concrete for the sake of seeing what's going to happen... As long as it can take the round count of the RMR (And there's no reason it won't. It's internally an identical optic), then it will work 100% fine for what they want it to do. |
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Quoted: I don't think Trijicon isn't too concerned about it being as durable as the RMR from a standpoint of direct physical abuse - they're not meant to do the same things lol. RMR is a duty/defense optic. SRO is clearly aimed to be a competition optic. Competition guys don't purposely drop their guns onto concrete for the sake of seeing what's going to happen... As long as it can take the round count of the RMR (And there's no reason it won't. It's internally an identical optic), then it will work 100% fine for what they want it to do. View Quote |
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[#10]
I'm looking forward to snagging a used RMR as people jump to upgrade. I don't need something that will survive being .mil issued. I need something that will survive the glove box of a Lexus.
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[#11]
Sticking with the RMR for now, next move will be an ACRO honestly.
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[#12]
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I don't think Trijicon isn' too concerned about it being as durable as the RMR from a standpoint of direct physical abuse - they're not meant to do the same things lol. RMR is a duty/defense optic. SRO is clearly aimed to be a competition optic. Competition guys don't purposely drop their guns onto concrete for the sake of seeing what's going to happen... As long as it can take the round count of the RMR (And there's no reason it won't. It's internally an identical optic), then it will work 100% fine for what they want it to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the new SRO is not as tough as the RMR just by the shape of the shroud. The depth or front to back lense shroud is longer, which means more material, so can be stronger, but I don't think this overcomes the actual design flaw of the circular shape imparting any impact forces directly to the lens. I've seen a video where the SRO was racked off some surfaces and the pic showed a pretty beat up SRO, but no mention of dropping. I think it will be tough enough for me but RMR it ain't. Hell, lord Cowen busted an Acro, soooo... RMR is a duty/defense optic. SRO is clearly aimed to be a competition optic. Competition guys don't purposely drop their guns onto concrete for the sake of seeing what's going to happen... As long as it can take the round count of the RMR (And there's no reason it won't. It's internally an identical optic), then it will work 100% fine for what they want it to do. According to Trijicon the RMR was never designed to go on a handgun. it was designed as a small secondary optic for piggy backing with larger scopes like Acog or canted mount as a backup. The SRO was designed from the ground up as a pistol mounted optic. As for durability the RMR housing design is more durable though the SRO design allows for over a ton of crush weight. I cant think of too many situations where the SRO couldn't handle duty use. I don't have one in my hand yet but from handling it the thing is built like a tank. Time will tell.... |
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Quoted: I spoke with the Trijicon reps at the NRA Conference and I think you may be off on this... According to Trijicon the RMR was never designed to go on a handgun. it was designed as a small secondary optic for piggy backing with larger scopes like Acog or canted mount as a backup. The SRO was designed from the ground up as a pistol mounted optic. As for durability the RMR housing design is more durable though the SRO design allows for over a ton of crush weight. I cant think of too many situations where the SRO couldn't handle duty use. I don't have one in my hand yet but from handling it the thing is built like a tank. Time will tell.... View Quote From what I was told, it's internally the same optic as an RMR. Simply a different housing. Maybe the person I spoke with at Trijicon was incorrect. |
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Quoted: I spoke with the Trijicon reps at the NRA Conference and I think you may be off on this... According to Trijicon the RMR was never designed to go on a handgun. it was designed as a small secondary optic for piggy backing with larger scopes like Acog or canted mount as a backup. The SRO was designed from the ground up as a pistol mounted optic. As for durability the RMR housing design is more durable though the SRO design allows for over a ton of crush weight. I cant think of too many situations where the SRO couldn't handle duty use. I don't have one in my hand yet but from handling it the thing is built like a tank. Time will tell.... View Quote It doesn't matter what the RMR was designed for, it's being used a duty pistol optic and doing that job well. |
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Anyone got theirs yet? I gave in and ordered the 5 moa.
Was on the fence between the 2.5 and 5.0 |
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[#16]
Nope, ordred one as soon as they were released. Armsunlimited said june some sometime.
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[#17]
Just ordered a 2.5MOA SRO. Hard to find and I probably overpaid by $50 ($599). Screw it. I need this for July 4th and can’t wait any longer!
Excited! |
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[#21]
Today is SRO arrival day. Now I just need an afternoon off to go play!
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[#22]
Looking forward to hearing your review
I stripped my RMR off my G34 and put it on my Benelli.... still waiting on my SRO though |
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[#24]
Arms Unlimited will be getting there's next week, Kenzie's optic has some in stock. Mine will be here Saturday, I'm leaving a match early to just to play with them.
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[#25]
Got er installed, but no range time yet. Seems great to me, but it’s my first RDS on a handgun. Shot quite a few HGs with RMRs, but never owned one.
Going to try n get out this weekend. Crazy something so small can cost so much! Course my mini-ACOGs are worse in that regard! |
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Got er installed, but no range time yet. Seems great to me, but it’s my first RDS on a handgun. Shot quite a few HGs with RMRs, but never owned one. Going to try n get out this weekend. Crazy something so small can cost so much! Course my mini-ACOGs are worse in that regard! View Quote Probably should have waited for long term reports before buying but I'm optimistic that trijicon got it right. |
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[#30]
I am surprised no one has posted any impressions yet.
Very curious... Show and tell time |
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[#31]
Mine were supposed to be here Saturday, usps delivered today and I'm still at work. Soon.....
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[#32]
Delivered to ATEI today. I'm not expecting it back for a few weeks.
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Noticed you were running irons forward, but now running no irons with the SRO. How much clearance would the SRO have on the axis slim if you ran traditional irons behind optic? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I can try to get a measurement tomorrow. |
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[#36]
Trijicon SRO |
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[#37]
Attached File
Broke the head off a mounting screw... Email sent to Jagerwerks hoping they can help. Ughhh.... |
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[#38]
Pretty much as expected. Somewhat disappointed it bit the dust on the first drop, but didn't expect it to survive all the way through.
Still pumped about it. |
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Quoted: Oh, that's not good at all! At least not for my purposes. I'll stick with the RMR. Hope a type3 RMR comes out soon with the SRO features in the classic durable body. View Quote |
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Care to elaborate? I am not wanting to be confrontational, just wondering as I am trying to learn as well! I will be carrying one ccw unless something serious comes along to make me rethink that choice. After seeing Aaron bounce the site off of a couple of posts for one handed stoppage drills, I feel ok to carry it. I will not be dropping it though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Oh, that's not good at all! At least not for my purposes. I'll stick with the RMR. Hope a type3 RMR comes out soon with the SRO features in the classic durable body. |
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[#42]
I’ll just get both. I have an RMR’d g19.5, putting SRO on my 19X. Use the SRO for range / fun / comp / teaching the wife how to shoot with a RDS on a pistol. After handling an SRO at the shop I work part time at on a Glock, it seems very forgiving / easier-ish to learn / start on.
She’s having a hard time adjusting from irons to my RMR. We are both LEO’s so seems like something that would happen in the future going to RDS’s (like 10-15 years) and I want her to learn now so it’s an easier transition. |
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Quoted: I believe Aaron's drop test results were already serious enough to go full stop on the idea of using this on a fighting tool. If it can't take a single drop from shoulder height without being destroyed, it isn't one I'll trust for defensive use and that's my main purpose. Some RMRs have taken hundreds of those drops and still work perfectly. Anything can fail, but it's about playing to the best odds that our gear will work and this shows too big a gap in durability for me to justify the small benefits the SRO offers over an RMR. I won't presume that my gun will never be dropped or hit hard and then still need to work, because I can't forsee how my fight will go. I'd rather have the much tougher option. The big window is nice but the trade off is too high for me to justify it for carry. View Quote |
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I’ll finally be getting mine out this weekend/all next week. Wish I could quickly get it on a VP9, but there’s nothing quick about that.
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[#46]
So after snapping off a screw....
I reached out to Jagerwerks who milled my G34 a couple years back. They said box everything and send it to them. Returned in under a week, everything squared away, free of charge. Outstanding service by Jagerwerks.... I’ll send them my business again for sure. Attached File |
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[#48]
Great customer support!
From shooting my sros a bit now, they seem to collect more schmoo than my rmrs did. Seems obvious, but wanted to make it known, get some cat shit to wipe on them. |
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[#49]
View Quote SRO did great in bright sun and night. Freakin tack driver. Lots of fun. I need more SROs. |
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[#50]
I have now shot a little at an indoor range, 2 steel matches and a USPSA match.
Im around 7-800 rounds I would guess. Mine is the 5MOA dot. On paper indoor range- it is as capable as me & my gun. Steel- No ifs, ands or buts, -the gun has just been faster. I am no slouch and I immediately noticed quicker target acquisition and transitions USPSA- I have lost some speed but increased my Alpha hits- Im I think because Im more able to be precise-I am. Matter of fact I shot 6 stages and across the whole day only had 2 Charlies. For some f’ing reason that match hasn't posted scores yet- but I was shooting accurately just not as fast as Im capable of. Overall- Im happy with it. I have no intention of using it as a “fighting tool”. Or dropping it from 4 or 5 feet onto the concrete. Absolutely no flickering, and I really like the sight window. I have another on order (backorder) through Brownells, also a 5MOA dot and I have so far been inclined to keep the 2nd one, though I now have 3 other RMR’s in the safe. If you want to play the shooting “games” USPSA, Steel, 3 gun as far as I can tell its a nice upgrade from the RMR and I like it! Another steel match Wednesday and I plan to press the speed more aggressively than I have been up to this point. They took the best aspects of a C-More for an open gun and “Trijicon’d it”. Being the 5MOA it has gotten lots of attention at the matches I’ve shot- others seem impressed with draw/view but that could just be guys being friendly. |
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