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Posted: 4/11/2017 3:31:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Does the comped 19 work with 147gr without tuning the spring? I've just been shooting a ton of 124 gr plinker, 147 practice LE ammo, and verifying with occasional HSTs |
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Posted: 4/11/2017 4:51:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Yes! Anything buy 115 gr Plinker ammo seems to run great with the comp. I'm thinking that 115 gr has a lot more gas that is harvested by the comp, which results in too much recoil reduction/pulling on the barrel. I've just been shooting a ton of 124 gr plinker, 147 practice LE ammo, and verifying with occasional HSTs |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 12:54:13 AM EDT
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Conflicting reports already, I only ask because I don't shoot 115gr ammo. All my ammo is either 124gr or 147gr, I buy mostly 147gr to shoot suppressed and thats what's usually in my bag when I go to the range.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2017 1:43:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By magicman93:
I've had the exact opposite experience. The 147s that I've tried I've had issues with and it's ran just fine with 115s. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:08:56 PM EDT
[#5]
I'm noticing a lot of people in this thread going with different comp options other than KKM, is this due to better performance than the KKM? Or is it because of barrel compatibility?
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Posted: 4/12/2017 3:47:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andyh23:
I'm noticing a lot of people in this thread going with different comp options other than KKM, is this due to better performance than the KKM? Or is it because of barrel compatibility? |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:24:47 PM EDT
[#7]
I'd really like to see a side by side comparison from longest to shortest of the bare slides (19, 17, 34) and different comps to show the length comparison.
I asked about it on the @weaponoutfitters IG, but they never did it. I think it would be a helpful piece of information. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:28:41 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
I'd really like to see a side by side comparison from longest to shortest of the bare slides (19, 17, 34) and different comps to show the length comparison. I asked about it on the @weaponoutfitters IG, but they never did it. I think it would be a helpful piece of information. I'm headed to my favorite range this week to try out the V2 vs V3 Micro Comp. Gonna borrow their rental guns and snap photos right quick. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 4:56:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Oh yeah! Probably got filed away in the "good idea" file but got forgotten. I'm headed to my favorite range this week to try out the V2 vs V3 Micro Comp. Gonna borrow their rental guns and snap photos right quick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Originally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
I'd really like to see a side by side comparison from longest to shortest of the bare slides (19, 17, 34) and different comps to show the length comparison. I asked about it on the @weaponoutfitters IG, but they never did it. I think it would be a helpful piece of information. I'm headed to my favorite range this week to try out the V2 vs V3 Micro Comp. Gonna borrow their rental guns and snap photos right quick. I know most guys are building 19s, but I'm curious how much length is added to the 17s by each comp in comparison. Especially to the 34 since I'll need a holster. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 5:00:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
Sweet! I know most guys are building 19s, but I'm curious how much length is added to the 17s by each comp in comparison. Especially to the 34 since I'll need a holster. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:03:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Conflicting reports already, I only ask because I don't shoot 115gr ammo. All my ammo is either 124gr or 147gr, I buy mostly 147gr to shoot suppressed and thats what's usually in my bag when I go to the range. Buy the setup you want and tune it to the load you want to carry. Springs are cheap. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 8:19:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gdirty5:
I want to say it makes my 19 almost as long as a 34, but definitely longer than a 17. But the G17 is longer tab the 19, and i think the TBRCI is somewhat shorter. So I'm curious to see how all the variations stack up. I'm also curious to know if the 17 well fit 34 holsters (specifically Safarilands) with a comp. |
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Posted: 4/12/2017 9:06:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
The common understanding is the G19/KKM combo make it almost exactly the length of the 34. But the G17 is longer tab the 19, and i think the TBRCI is somewhat shorter. So I'm curious to see how all the variations stack up. I'm also curious to know if the 17 well fit 34 holsters (specifically Safarilands) with a comp. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/12/2017 10:44:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TerryGecko]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe:
The common understanding is the G19/KKM combo make it almost exactly the length of the 34. But the G17 is longer tab the 19, and i think the TBRCI is somewhat shorter. So I'm curious to see how all the variations stack up. I'm also curious to know if the 17 well fit 34 holsters (specifically Safarilands) with a comp. 
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USA
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Posted: 4/13/2017 7:20:41 AM EDT
[#15]
Trialing this Kinetic Concepts Tactical AIWB holster
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2017 3:38:17 PM EDT
[#16]
One more comp/barrel/data point:
I just finished a Fauxland with the KKM barrel and comp on a 19. Who no fire control changes except a Overwatch DAT, the gun cycled Fiocchi 115 grain ball without issue, but I didn't try to limp wrist it. As an aside, I had Doug @ ATEi do the slide milling, and it appears he zero'd the gun as well. It hit right to the sights off the bat, and that was a nice surprise. 
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Posted: 4/13/2017 4:08:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
The first mistake is calling loads simply by their weight because there is far too much variation. Every gun is different even in stock form. Buy the setup you want and tune it to the load you want to carry. Springs are cheap. For folks who are waiting for the KKM and Comp combo, just got word from KKM that more Roland Special barrels are shipping to me so I've enabled em for sale. OP Tactical and obviously, KKM are the other locations that are getting em in this batch. Hopefully, this means that a batch of KKM barrels in Black Nitride will be headed my way in a month! |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:01:47 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Yarp yarp very true. I should have qualified my statements in that hot 115 Gr from PMC, CCI Blazer Brass, and Fiocchi were the brands that would cause issues with my KKM barrel/comp combo and Micro comp equipped pistols. For folks who are waiting for the KKM and Comp combo, just got word from KKM that more Roland Special barrels are shipping to me so I've enabled em for sale. OP Tactical and obviously, KKM are the other locations that are getting em in this batch. Hopefully, this means that a batch of KKM barrels in Black Nitride will be headed my way in a month! |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 1:10:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Ended up making an IWB for my fauxland, minus the x300u. Came out pretty nice, just have to improve the blocking I think for the comp when I make an owb for the full fauxland with the x300u.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:38:38 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TerryGecko:
I run both my Glock 17 w/ Comp and Glock 19 w/ Comp in a Trex Arms Ragnarok. It fits them both fine but the comp sticks out a bit with the G17. I don't have a Safariland on hand to test. http://i63.tinypic.com/30iui3k.jpg |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 10:40:00 AM EDT
[#21]
Anyone have any recent info on turn around times for ATEI? I mailed mine in February 14th and I'm getting antsy.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 11:22:16 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikehikes:
Anyone have any recent info on turn around times for ATEI? I mailed mine in February 14th and I'm getting antsy. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 1:45:26 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikehikes:
Anyone have any recent info on turn around times for ATEI? I mailed mine in February 14th and I'm getting antsy. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 5:12:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mikehikes:
Anyone have any recent info on turn around times for ATEI? I mailed mine in February 14th and I'm getting antsy. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 5:24:30 PM EDT
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Welp....I guess I'm in this game as well.
Gen 3 frame on the way from the Glockstore, slide in bound from Brownell's, already have a Fastfire, need the barrel and comp. Pics coming sometime in the future.....once it's together. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 7:31:41 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Glad to see im not the only one rocking the Trex gear. Regardless of what the dude's reputation is, the company makes good gear and it works really well for me. I carry a sidecar or raptor every day, lately its been the raptor for my Foland that I carry most days. I have a sidecar for it too but its just not as comfortable with the added length so I don't wear it very much. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:46:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmo419:
Ended up making an IWB for my fauxland, minus the x300u. Came out pretty nice, just have to improve the blocking I think for the comp when I make an owb for the full fauxland with the x300u. http://i.imgur.com/22l1Kv2l.jpg I've been wanting to "or try" make a holster. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:02:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yeet-Cannon]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Did I miss something? |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:35:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Did I miss something? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Originally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Glad to see im not the only one rocking the Trex gear. Regardless of what the dude's reputation is, the company makes good gear and it works really well for me. I carry a sidecar or raptor every day, lately its been the raptor for my Foland that I carry most days. I have a sidecar for it too but its just not as comfortable with the added length so I don't wear it very much. Those same people tend to be short term vets who can't seperate shooting as a seperate independent skill from the other soldier tasks and are appalled that anyone who hasn't been too basic training would have the ability to shoot or the gall to be in the gun industry. They're is some valid criticism if him(as well as some of his products), but overall he's a young dude who is building a rising star company and shoots more than most. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:47:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TerryGecko]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Glad to see im not the only one rocking the Trex gear. Regardless of what the dude's reputation is, the company makes good gear and it works really well for me. I carry a sidecar or raptor every day, lately its been the raptor for my Foland that I carry most days. I have a sidecar for it too but its just not as comfortable with the added length so I don't wear it very much. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 1:42:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TerryGecko:
I wish the Sidecars didn't take so long to ship though. |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 6:52:11 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Glad to see im not the only one rocking the Trex gear. Regardless of what the dude's reputation is, the company makes good gear and it works really well for me. I carry a sidecar or raptor every day, lately its been the raptor for my Foland that I carry most days. I have a sidecar for it too but its just not as comfortable with the added length so I don't wear it very much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullMetalAR:
Originally Posted By TerryGecko:
I run both my Glock 17 w/ Comp and Glock 19 w/ Comp in a Trex Arms Ragnarok. It fits them both fine but the comp sticks out a bit with the G17. I don't have a Safariland on hand to test. http://i63.tinypic.com/30iui3k.jpg The sidecar is great but if it doesn't work for you there are other options. In terms of his attitude? Everyone needs more training. How is that controversial? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2017 9:56:06 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigPapaColt:
Nice job. I've been wanting to "or try" make a holster. 
I'll post some pics of my OWB fauxland whenever I get around to finishing it up lol |
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Posted: 4/15/2017 8:32:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: twitch1706]
[#34]
Sold a couple guns; 19 MOS acquired today.
Shield RMS and MOS plate enroute from the UK. SiCo barrels and TBRC comps inbound at work. Freya coming tomorrow. Seems like I'll have a Fauxland of my own in little bit. Dug up my Insight WX150 to round out the off-spec parts; turns out it fits TLR-1 holsters with minor tweaking. I'm pretty fucking stoked, guys 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 1:24:20 AM EDT
[#35]
I've tried the TBRC micro v2 comp in my g19. It really didn't do much so I sold it. The tiny 3 ports on the top sides are too small.
I think the v3 version will be much better. The kkm comp is the best imho. 2 large ports to redirect the gasses. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 1:48:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN:
In terms of his attitude? Everyone needs more training. How is that controversial? Honestly I personally couldn't care less what people think of the guy, I like his gear and it has worked really well for me. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 1:49:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Say10:
Wish any of them didn't take so long to ship, wanted to order a quick ship to try. Ended up ordering two raptors and wish I would of ordered a ragnarok as well now that I'm two weeks into the wait. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:56:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullMetalAR:
As far as I know the Ragnarok is an in-stock item and should ship with no wait time, mine came in just a few days. Will probably order one when they're back in stock, nice that they're designed to accommodate the rs already! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:40:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Say10:
Will probably order one when they're back in stock, nice that they're designed to accommodate the rs already! |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 4:49:13 PM EDT
[#40]
25 yards with my Fauxland special with Unity Tactical ATOM slide, Silencerco Barrel, and TBRCi V3 comp. Notice with the 124 Gr HST in the upper right... it's dead on. with very little shift on 147 gr variants. The 115 gr PMC plinker doesn't group for squat. Setup was I just put 5 rounds into a Glock 17 mag and used the magazine as a monopod to shoot at 25 yards. With a 1 MOA RMR, this resulted in me being able to clearly see ammo preference for my barrel. Gonna try to get video this week comparing V2 to V3 on the TRBRCi, as well as against a KKM black nitrided barrel combo Still patiently waiting on my ATEi slide to come back, can't wait! |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 9:44:41 PM EDT
[#41]
My ATEI slide shipped today. I should have it Friday afternoon. Can't wait.
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 10:25:09 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Yarp yarp very true. I should have qualified my statements in that hot 115 Gr from PMC, CCI Blazer Brass, and Fiocchi were the brands that would cause issues with my KKM barrel/comp combo and Micro comp equipped pistols. For folks who are waiting for the KKM and Comp combo, just got word from KKM that more Roland Special barrels are shipping to me so I've enabled em for sale. OP Tactical and obviously, KKM are the other locations that are getting em in this batch. Hopefully, this means that a batch of KKM barrels in Black Nitride will be headed my way in a month! On the compensator, I think you hit it- bullet weight has nothing to do with it other than as it affects the amount of powder in the case. Heavier bullets usually take more case volume, resulting in less powder to keep acceptable pressures. Less powder makes less gas or whatever. Different manufacturers use different powders though. While not always true, a factory load that sounds 'louder' and has more flash often means a slower powder and more gas at the muzzle to drive the comp. Food for thought. If you are reloading, you can control it. Alliant power pistol and winchester autocomp and anything else around that point in burn rate with 115 or 125gr bullets should be in the sweet spot for this gun. Slow powders that give a lot of velocity and a lot of gas to drive the comp but not so slow that you need to compress or load too long for a glock magazine. 147gr are wasted, IMO, in this platform unless subsonic is your goal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:39:13 AM EDT
[#43]
I want to build a faux-land, where the hell are all the Blacklist barrels? No-one has them in stock.
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Posted: 4/19/2017 2:05:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
I want to build a faux-land, where the hell are all the Blacklist barrels? No-one has them in stock. 
4 weeks out is what I've heard. IIRC, my homies at Modern Outfitters in Meridian, MS, should have gotten a big shipment recently unless that was just a respost they shared |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 2:05:13 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By magicman93:
I've had the exact opposite experience. The 147s that I've tried I've had issues with and it's ran just fine with 115s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By magicman93:
Originally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Yes! Anything buy 115 gr Plinker ammo seems to run great with the comp. I'm thinking that 115 gr has a lot more gas that is harvested by the comp, which results in too much recoil reduction/pulling on the barrel. I've just been shooting a ton of 124 gr plinker, 147 practice LE ammo, and verifying with occasional HSTs |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 2:46:16 PM EDT
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My Stealth Special in action at Tactical Performance Center's Multigun Mastery Class Article up on my blog about my holster: https://sinistralrifleman.com/2017/04/20/chuckwulla-holster-by-we-plead-the-2nd/ |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:39:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Finally finished up this holster for my fauxland, using the G-Code RTI mount. Turned out pretty good. Gotta adjust the cut of the black layer a little near the screws, but I'm lazy now
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Posted: 4/20/2017 3:46:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dog1]
[#48]
What a week....I got in-
1 stripped Glock frame, one frame parts order, one stripped slide, one slide parts order and a Burris Fast Fire 3. The slide and optic is off to Primary Machine for optic cut and I just ordered a RS KKM barrel/comp from Weapons Outfitters. I'm gonna get that WTF look from my wife when she looks at the bank statement..
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Posted: 4/20/2017 5:50:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: weaponoutfitters]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dog1:
What a week....I got in- 1 stripped Glock frame, one frame parts order, one stripped slide, one slide parts order and a Burris Fast Fire 3. The slide and optic is off to Primary Machine for optic cut and I just ordered a RS KKM barrel/comp from Weapons Outfitters. I'm gonna get that WTF look from my wife when she looks at the bank statement.. I'm gonna finish up shipments for today and head to the range to compare my KKM barrel/comp combo to the Silencerco/TBRCi combo to see POI shift. Then I'm gonna carry my Roland Special and head downtown where there was just a shooting with two officers injured to celebrate my girlfriend's birthday at her favorite restaraunt. With the V2 Micro Comp and Silencerco vs. KKM, there was like a 6" drop at 25 yards, wondering if the V3 will be similar |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 6:08:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weaponoutfitters:
Welp we'll make sure you get yer barrel ASAP! Packaging it up now! I'm gonna finish up shipments for today and head to the range to compare my KKM barrel/comp combo to the Silencerco/TBRCi combo to see POI shift. Then I'm gonna carry my Roland Special and head downtown where there was just a shooting with two officers injured to celebrate my girlfriend's birthday at her favorite restaraunt. With the V2 Micro Comp vs. KKM, there was like a 6" drop at 25 yards, wondering if the V3 will be similar I'm curious to see what your comparison shows. Watch your six and be careful... |
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