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Posted: 4/17/2020 3:00:27 PM EDT
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Definitely the wrong forum. I believe there is a ammo forum or you could always ask in GD.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 3:01:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: ... So are Frangible rounds good SD rounds?... No. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 3:42:04 PM EDT
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Years ago I talked to a SWAT team member at a federal prison. They used Glaser safety slugs because of the chance of ricochet in their concrete environment. They proved it got the job done.
I just picked up some 30 cal frangible bullets to load 300blk for training on steel at close range. Haven't been able to range test them for accuracy/ SD, etc because all the ranges are currently shut down. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely the wrong forum. I believe there is a ammo forum or you could always ask in GD. Nope! Nothing like that plus GD is full of trolls and people full of $hit! So I'd not trust them anyway! |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. No flame but why not? I used them in combat and took down many targets with one shot. Like said no flame at all. So why are they a bad round to use? |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 5:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No flame but why not? I used them in combat and took down many targets with one shot. Like said no flame at all. So why are they a bad round to use? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. No flame but why not? I used them in combat and took down many targets with one shot. Like said no flame at all. So why are they a bad round to use? There's a reason police departments train with frangible rounds but then issue hollow-points. Self-defense bullets are engineered for controlled expansion and penetration. Tremendous resources are expended getting it reliably right. Frangible bullets are engineered to turn into dust. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 8:15:29 PM EDT
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No. Frangible bullets provide insufficient penetration to pass the FBI criteria, and in testing often by a significant margin.
Tech forums related to ammunition will give a good discussion without GD shenanigans: https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Ammunition/16 https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Ammunition/20/ |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 10:03:00 PM EDT
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Moving thread, not a Reloading question.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 10:33:10 PM EDT
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If you used them in combat and they worked then why ask this question at all?
When I was cop we called them the murder bullet since they would turn to dust after hitting bone. I would use them if I had any. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 10:52:03 PM EDT
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Having fired some frangible .223 rounds into gallon jugs of water expecting them to disintegrate, only to have them zip through, I have my doubts about them disintegrating or underpenetrating in a body...
That being said, they are not on my short list of SD ammunition... |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 11:56:05 PM EDT
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I was watching some things on frangible lately and did order some of these projectiles to reload, but its for close steel shooting. Seems ok, not sure it would be my go to though. I'm still partial to lead and copper.
https://sinterfire.com/products/ |
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Posted: 4/18/2020 6:23:12 AM EDT
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I would never use a frangible bullet for self defense. I've worked rural area LE for the last 23 years and have used frangible rounds to put down probably 40 deer and 1 bear hit by cars near houses. I've used them in 357 Sig and 9mm. Very few have exited the skull on a deer. I use the frangible rounds to avoid a potential ricochet shooting around pavement. They make impressive shallow wounds and work good for my purpose. When I'm not around a house I use the issued gold dots in 357 or Ranger T +P+ 9mm. Both of those work great, exit and show signs of expansion every time I use them.
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