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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:03:54 AM EDT
[#1]
A PPQ in 10mm would tighten my pants bigly.
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:05:59 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A PPQ in 10mm would tighten my pants bigly. Yah, I am rarely an early adopter but I would gladly be the guinea pig on that one. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 11:40:43 AM EDT
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My dream has always been either a HK VP10 or Walther 10mm. Hopefully it will have decent mag capacity if it is a new 10mm.
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:24:46 PM EDT
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Germans don't seem to be welcoming to the 10mm, IMO.
H&K doesn't make one. I don't believe Sig ever has made one despite them doing .357Sig, .38Super & lord knows what else. Obviously Glock does but they're Austrian rather than German. Be better for my budget if it isn't a 10mm, I can say that. 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 7:06:00 PM EDT
[#5]
PPQ with an aluminum frame.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 7:13:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Germans don't seem to be welcoming to the 10mm, IMO. H&K doesn't make one. I don't believe Sig ever has made one despite them doing .357Sig, .38Super & lord knows what else. Obviously Glock does but they're Austrian rather than German. Be better for my budget if it isn't a 10mm, I can say that. H&K made an MP5 in 10mm at one time. Up until recently you could get a Sig 220 in 10mm, not sure if you still can. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 7:19:32 PM EDT
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If it's the one I've seen leaked, it's the ddx steel frame. Full size frame and dust cover, 4 inch slide with a comp to make it 5 inches. Like the p320 X Comp that Parker Mountain Machine does.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 4:05:45 PM EDT
[#8]
P365 competitor
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: P365 competitor That would be VERY interesting, especially if it was optics cut from the factory. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:51:38 PM EDT
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It won't be a 10. Far too niche a cartridge for them, as it's only a "thing" in North America, and there is zero interest in the LE community for it.
The scuttlebutt on the Walther Forums is that it will be a steel and or aluminum version of the PPQ, and a second pistol along the lines of the P365, but no one really knows for sure. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:22:13 PM EDT
[#11]
I stand by my aluminum framed PPQ comment. Its the next logical step. I would buy a aluminum framed PPQ in a heart beat.
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Posted: 1/17/2021 6:36:09 PM EDT
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As a big Walther fan, I'd like to see their version of a 365-sized pistol. I'm not that crazy about the SIG one, although I admire the engineering that produced it.
Let's see a little Walther like that. |
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Posted: 1/29/2021 3:16:16 PM EDT
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Any idea on when in Feb the announcement will be? I'm seeing Tenicor will have holsters and Overwatch Precision will have a trigger when it comes out. That makes me think PPQ, but I could really use a new EDC gun, and the P365XL I'm lukewarm on.
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Posted: 1/29/2021 3:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: P365 competitor I asked them for a double stack version of the PPS years before the 365 ever came on the market. They need updated versions of the PPS in both single and double stack IMO. They won't do it, or do it right if they do. |
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Posted: 1/30/2021 9:07:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Better not be a newer Q5 SF Pro. Just picked one of those up not too long ago!
Maybe a better PPQ M2 22 where the trigger isn’t such a POS. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 9:31:46 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it's the one I've seen leaked, it's the ddx steel frame. Full size frame and dust cover, 4 inch slide with a comp to make it 5 inches. Like the p320 X Comp that Parker Mountain Machine does. The DDX is a collaboration between Walther and PMM and will be sold by PMM directly, if at all. They have a different pistol they’re announcing this month that’s been teased by all of their sponsored Defense Division shooters for months |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 10:37:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The DDX is a collaboration between Walther and PMM and will be sold by PMM directly, if at all. They have a different pistol they’re announcing this month that’s been teased by all of their sponsored Defense Division shooters for months Give us a p365xl competitor with a decent optic cut and good trigger walther |
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Posted: 2/12/2021 4:45:00 PM EDT
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Just got an email proclaiming Feb 19, 20, and 21 as the dates to the see the new Walther at dealers. Kinda weird it's just Friday-Sunday, but I don't do marketing.
 Maybe it's the P99AS, but now in green! I could go for that. I kinda miss my old P99. |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:59:06 PM EDT
[#19]
PPK in 32acp please.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:20:48 AM EDT
[#20]
 Huge swing and miss IMHO , I have no idea what the advantage is over the PPQ more self competing products from Walther I guess. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 9:15:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Huh. What exactly is “red dot ergonomics”? Do red dots require different ergonomics?
Almost looks like a cross between a Q4/5 and a PPQ.. Is that a full size RDO or a micro? |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 2:17:41 PM EDT
[#22]
While I think this will make a fine replacement for the PPQ out of the box, as the owner of two PPQs I've had to get optic cut and stippled, it doesn't appear to offer much for me. I was hoping for a competitor to the P365XL and 48X.
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Posted: 2/16/2021 8:24:54 PM EDT
[#23]
It’s a new line of polymer duty pistols meant to replace the PPQ. Fullsize (4.5”/18rds) and Compact (4”/15rds) to start. Lots of parts backwards-compatible with the PPQ, Glock sights, optics-ready, modular slides and frames
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:34:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Want.
But has James Bond used one, yet? |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 5:48:44 PM EDT
[#25]
45 acp please
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Posted: 2/17/2021 6:24:19 PM EDT
[#26]
Would definitely get the compact one.
 New Walther PDP First Shots & Impressions: Compact & Full Size |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 6:47:36 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryCompact is the way to go. I am waiting on prices to settle a little bit, today is essentially the first day out - but I definitely want one |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 8:23:33 PM EDT
[#28]
With the current situation I don’t see prices settling, unfortunately.
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Posted: 2/17/2021 8:36:20 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/r00uVDQh.jpg Huge swing and miss IMHO , I have no idea what the advantage is over the PPQ more self competing products from Walther I guess. And I don't see what the advantage of the PPQ was over the P99 |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:52:25 PM EDT
[#30]
I like it, and think it has promise. The lack of a paddle magazine release is a non-starter for me. If it had the paddles I'd have one on order.
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:58:01 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With the current situation I don’t see prices settling, unfortunately. These seem like a fair deal to me at the $600-ish asking price I'm seeing at multiple vendors. I picked one up for about that. C&H Precision is making all the optics plates for Walther and they will have ones for the Acro, Holosun 509T, etc. Out of the gate, Walther has plates for RMR, Shield RMS/DPP, Docter, and Vortex Viper available -- you get one of your choice free with the pistol. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 12:40:16 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it, and think it has promise. The lack of a paddle magazine release is a non-starter for me. If it had the paddles I'd have one on order. I'm seeing reviews online that indicate the PDP and PPQ slides will interchange, meaning I could use my PDP slide on my PPQ M1 frame and have paddle mag releases. I will confirm this as soon as I have the PDP in hand (Friday!). |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 3:49:32 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm seeing reviews online that indicate the PDP and PPQ slides will interchange, meaning I could use my PDP slide on my PPQ M1 frame and have paddle mag releases. I will confirm this as soon as I have the PDP in hand (Friday!). If you don’t mind, could you let us know if the grip is narrower (width wise) than the PPQ? It looks narrower to me, which would be nice. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 9:22:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don’t mind, could you let us know if the grip is narrower (width wise) than the PPQ? It looks narrower to me, which would be nice. Will do. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 9:34:56 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryMe too! I was so excited when I saw these but after watching the video where he mentioned that H&K has a new handgun coming out now I feel like I have to wait on the PDP until I see what H&K is bringing out.
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Posted: 2/18/2021 3:17:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These seem like a fair deal to me at the $600-ish asking price I'm seeing at multiple vendors. I picked one up for about that. C&H Precision is making all the optics plates for Walther and they will have ones for the Acro, Holosun 509T, etc. Out of the gate, Walther has plates for RMR, Shield RMS/DPP, Docter, and Vortex Viper available -- you get one of your choice free with the pistol. @vmpglenn which vendor did you order it from? ETA ordered one for $569 with the 4-pay plan from Sportsmans Guide. |
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Posted: 2/18/2021 5:26:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @vmpglenn which vendor did you order it from? ETA ordered one for $569 with the 4-pay plan from Sportsmans Guide. I got one from Green Top Sporting Goods. I let my SG account lapse, but that's a great price. |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 3:34:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Love me some Walthers...
 So here are a few comparison photos. Top to bottom: P99QA, PPQ M1, PDP:  Slides interchange among all frames, at least in terms of function checking (L-R: P99, PPQ, PDP):  Frames are all variations of each other and feel very similar in size. The PDP texture is the best by far (L-R: P99, PPQ, PDP)  I actually prefer the paddle mag release on the PPQ, but the big button on the PDP is better than the TINY paddle on the P99. As for triggers, the PPQ and PDP are really similar, while the P99QA is mushy and has a long reset. ETA: I think I may shoot this configuration for a bit...  |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 3:51:13 PM EDT
[#39]
Thanks for posting that vmpglenn, good info.
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Posted: 2/19/2021 4:09:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it, and think it has promise. The lack of a paddle magazine release is a non-starter for me. If it had the paddles I'd have one on order. Needs: Paddle magazine release Much shorter slide stop Texture higher on the frame Much reduced trigger takeup (from my PPQ, it's almost unshootable) Change springs or whatever is needed to tame the muzzle flip. Worst 9mm I've ever shot for shooting dynamics. At least they filled in the big cutout behind the trigger that all the europeans seem to cut out of their grips. |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 4:38:18 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Love me some Walthers... So here are a few comparison photos. Top to bottom: P99QA, PPQ M1, PDP: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/walthers01-1832238.jpg Slides interchange among all frames, at least in terms of function checking (L-R: P99, PPQ, PDP): https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/walthers02-1832239.jpg Frames are all variations of each other and feel very similar in size. The PDP texture is the best by far (L-R: P99, PPQ, PDP) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/walthers03-1832241.jpg I actually prefer the paddle mag release on the PPQ, but the big button on the PDP is better than the TINY paddle on the P99. As for triggers, the PPQ and PDP are really similar, while the P99QA is mushy and has a long reset. ETA: I think I may shoot this configuration for a bit... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/26706/walthers04-1832258.jpg Awesome post - thank you. Lovely. Now I have to go check one out.. I assume Walther threaded PPQ barrels will be fine? |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:00:17 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome post - thank you. Lovely. Now I have to go check one out.. I assume Walther threaded PPQ barrels will be fine? Yep, PPQ and PDP 4" compact barrels are identical. |
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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:45:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Awesome comparison photos! You can really see the family lineage in the design.
Sort-of-want the big 4.5" version. I like duty-size combat handguns. Hopefully it shoots well as the community gets a hold of it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 12:12:41 PM EDT
[#44]
I'm so tempted to click on buy now on Gunbroker. So tempted.
ETA I bought it. Damn you, damn you all. 800USD I could have saved. Not. Should be here in a couple of days.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 8:42:06 PM EDT
[#45]
Bought my PDP Compact from Sportsman’s Guide for $569
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:12:05 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bought my PDP Compact from Sportsman's Guide for $569 |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 9:43:38 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the official price and you did great. Unfortunately, at the time of my compelling sickness (i.e., to have to get it at all costs) it was out of stock everywhere especially at that price. @SoloDallas Been there... Did the same thing for a S&W Performance Center 629 V-Comp. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 1:27:15 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SoloDallas Been there... Did the same thing for a S&W Performance Center 629 V-Comp. (I buy at highest peak, sell at lowest point - ain't I cool bro)  But anyway, can't wait for this handgun. Over the years I have become more and more of a Walther fan. I started with P38s, moved to PPKs then had a crush on P5s (both full size and compact) and now I wanted a P99 (James Bond fan, massive). I settled for this PdP which is largely based off of the P99. Can't wait! |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:30:36 PM EDT
[#49]
You beat me to it. By the time I was paying for it, it went out of stock.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 3:53:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better not be a newer Q5 SF Pro. Just picked one of those up not too long ago! Maybe a better PPQ M2 22 where the trigger isn’t such a POS. I’d love to have the Q5 SF Black Tie edition......... too much money for my poor self |
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