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Posted: 7/28/2018 2:27:47 PM EDT
My wife bought a "new" Luger  over 30 years ago from The American Historical Foundation, in Richmond, Virginia for her father. He recently gave it back to her,(not sure the reason as his health is ok) with the inference to give it to our son,(of course he is elated but too young to actually own it so it will sit in the safe until he is of age). I tried finding info. on it on the net but cannot find any info. as to what it is, as far as  how much of it being a  refurb.  from the above company. It does not have matching numbers on it ,as far as I can tell. It came in an oak presentation box which is actually pretty nice. The toggle has the letters "byf" on it.  The frame is stamped 1921 on top and the pistol magazine is what I assume " new-ish" made and I think has a polymer base plate/bottom. Does anyone know anything about these pistols? I know she spent quite a bit on it years ago and I would never think about selling it as it is a family heirloom, so to speak and for my son. It has sat it's entire life in the box and fortunately does not have any rust. It has the gold lettering and accents and is blued in some spots as noted but mostly has a matte finish. The grips are the same ones it came with but I have not taken them off the frame as I don't want to mar the finish. Any help would be appreciated. Sorry about the quality of the pics.

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Link Posted: 7/28/2018 6:41:21 PM EDT
[#1]
Can you get better pics? Details and condition are kinda important.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 9:03:34 PM EDT
[#2]
The pistol is in 99% condition and the action has never been worked/toggled. After searching a few hours more I stumbled on one on an auction site and as it turns out, the price my wife paid for it is about the same it is now, as it is a refurb. pistol commemorative. I will try to get better pics.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 10:44:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks like it's possibly a mismatched Mauser Luger.  Better pics of both sides, top and close up of all numbers.  Mauser used the code byf during world war 2, around 1941.  If this Luger was made in 1921 I believe the only company at the time making Lugers was DWM, and should have their stamp on it, although I can't find anything to show DWM was making Lugers that were date stamped in 1921. Not saying they didn't, I just can't find anything about a date stamped 1921 Luger from DWM.

Here is the company that made this display: American Historical foundation

Basically their business is to gussy up a gun and get big bucks for it.  As for your Luger, let's look at this from a couple of different perspectives.

1. The commemorative display: As an American if I was going to have a commemorative handgun that would remind me of our sacrifice during WW2 it wouldn't be a Luger.  It would be the 1911.  So why the Luger?  You said your wife bought it 30 yrs ago (circa 1988).  Can't speak for 1911 prices, but Luger prices were pretty cheap.  This company spits out a commemorative gun for any little thing that happens and probably wanted to make a quick buck off of the memory of WW2, so rather than use a more expensive 1911 they used either any Luger they could get their hands on or they hobbled one together from whatever parts they could find. The general public, and probably even a lot of WW2 veterans wouldn't know what toggle would be on a 1921 Luger, so ignorance is bliss.

2.  The Luger pistol: From a collector's standpoint this gun has very little true value.  Because of the mismatched toggle (and not even knowing if any other numbers match the frame) this gun is considered "shooter" grade.  That's provided the barrel is in good condition and the gun functions properly.  Lugers were hand fitted in the factory, so a different toggle on a Luger would need to be checked out to make sure it would function properly and safely.  The gun looks like it's as you said (salt) blued, rather than rust blued.  The trigger, magazine release, take down lever and safety are most likely coated with with 24k gold. There are some shooter grade Lugers that are still displayable, however as a collector this wouldn't be anything I would want to display.  My personal estimate on this gun's value is around $600-$800, provided the gun functions and the barrel is in good condition.  The magazine is probably made by Mec-Gar.

I know it probably hurts to spend a lot of money on something only to find out it really isn't worth what was spent on it, but as someone that doesn't have anything invested in this (monetarily or emotionally) I would take the gun out of the case, and use it as a shooter luger and see if the case could be used for something else.
Link Posted: 8/9/2018 8:54:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Those were dolled up garbage Lugers that were sold in magazines like the NRA's. They sold them to (no offense) rubes who didn't know what they were buying as real "collector" pieces. They are worth what you can get out of them, me I'd shoot the thing as it has no inherent value other than a shooter. Your particular gun has a WW 2 toggle and a post WW 1 DWM upper.
Link Posted: 8/11/2018 2:01:16 PM EDT
[#5]
I figured you guys would know better than me and I appreciate the info.. I found some sites about them and your right, they are not worth much other than what someone else is willing to pay. It's neat to look at and I figured it was just a mish-mash of parts but my son is thrilled with it. The best news of all is my wife's boyfriend at the time gave her the money to buy it, so I am not really out of anything. So I guess it is a win-win,so to speak. Really hoped it was something more.
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