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Just buy a Model 41 and shoot that until you are National Champion.
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If you are looking at old guns. High Standard 106 or 107 Supermatics are hard to beat.
If you are looking for new go with a Volquartsen. The Ruger based guns are extremely accurate and reliable. S&W model 41s are great guns too, but can be finicky as hell. My gun will only function reliably with Federal SV ammo. |
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Originally Posted By J-D1911: If you are looking at old guns. High Standard 106 or 107 Supermatics are hard to beat. If you are looking for new go with a Volquartsen. The Ruger based guns are extremely accurate and reliable. S&W model 41s are great guns too, but can be finicky as hell. My gun will only function reliably with Federal SV ammo. View Quote Funny you say that, stopped in at a local shop today and they had a really nice High Standard Supermatic Trophy I almost walked out with. |
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you seem to like the sig. make it what you want it to be. or since you already have a buckmark, get the fancy one and run alot of rounds thru it.
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Originally Posted By cschaeff: Those are very nice. The Victor would be a Model 41 competitor. View Quote They had a Victor there as well, with the vent rib. I liked the looks of the Trophy better, so I asked to see that one. The Victor looked more like a field pistol than the Trophy, with the vent rib, though I'm not sure that's the case. |
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If you want high end .22 LR, Volquartzen is your answer.
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“As long as none of us gets hurt, we’re making memories.” - one GA trooper to another after shooting HOSTAGE 9 times
Their SHAME has become their PRIDE |
Like said 106-107, ML series High standard preferably Victor. $600-900
S&W 41 . Finicky, most not drilled and tapped for scopemount, second bbl way more expensive than spare match HS one. Xesse. Marvel/ Nelson 1911 conversion. I would not waste $ on Volquertson Ruger Mk bbq gun. If you can't find a suitable HS I'd recommend a Hammerli Xesse or Marvel over a 41 they are a better value . 41s are waaay overpriced |
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Originally Posted By BlindFaith429: They had a Victor there as well, with the vent rib. I liked the looks of the Trophy better, so I asked to see that one. The Victor looked more like a field pistol than the Trophy, with the vent rib, though I'm not sure that's the case. View Quote The Victor is the premier HS target pistol. Easier to DOT, remove rib and attach scope rail using rib mount screw holes. The " Field" HS would be the fixed sight Sport King. If you can find a Sport King -M they use a mil grip frame like 106-107 , pop a LSP match bbl on it and you have a poormans Victor... |
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Pistol shooting is more about eyesight ,personal skill and practice .
A junker Ruger Mark II is not going to cut the mustard much beyond a real beginner level but a new or used S&W model 41 and a case of CCI Standard velocity will cover the bases pretty well for 95% of competitive shooters . If you are not shooting it at the level you want it is likely you , not the gun . Fairly easy to find in the new or used markets and holds its value pretty good. |
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Originally Posted By nhsport: Pistol shooting is more about eyesight ,personal skill and practice . A junker Ruger Mark II is not going to cut the mustard much beyond a real beginner level but a new or used S&W model 41 and a case of CCI Standard velocity will cover the bases pretty well for 95% of competitive shooters . If you are not shooting it at the level you want it is likely you , not the gun . Fairly easy to find in the new or used markets and holds its value pretty good. View Quote I have found some Rugers to be exceptionally accurate. I have a MKII competition slab sides that is every bit as accurate as my model 41, but the trigger is no where near as nice. My MKIII target is close, but it's been VQ'ed. My 22/45 is good for plinking only. |
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Quick update:
Went and put the Victor on layaway. She's not a flawless collector piece, but has good bones. With a little TLC, it with be a fantastic shooter. All for a whopping $450. |
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Originally Posted By BlindFaith429: Quick update: Went and put the Victor on layaway. She's not a flawless collector piece, but has good bones. With a little TLC, it with be a fantastic shooter. All for a whopping $450. View Quote That's a steal if a Hamden or Hartford with push button bbl. Even a Mitchel or Stoeger Victor is worth that. How much did they want for Trophy ? At least if it looks used you know it works ! |
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Originally Posted By tangeant: That's a steal if a Hamden or Hartford with push button bbl. Even a Mitchel or Stoeger Victor is worth that. How much did they want for Trophy ? At least if it looks used you know it works ! View Quote It's a 1972 Hamden "The Victor" model (per the stamp on the barrel) with the push-button take-down. Supermatic Trophy was a 1973 model with the smooth bull barrel (also Hamden-made) for $600. I liked the Supermatic Trophy better esthetically, with the bridge rear sight, but the $150 less for the Victor made up my mind for me. |
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I have a couple High Standard Victors, a Hamden and an early East Hartford.
You’ll like them, I prefer them to both my similar vintage Model 41 and my recent Model 41. The triggers are better, and they just fit my hand better. As you’ll discover the Victor feeds directly from the magazine had has no feed ramp. Consequently feed lip adjustment is imperative. The original High Standard magazines work fine as do the newer Interams TX made magazines. However you’ll want to get a magazine adjustment tool for it from Interarms TX. Other aftermarket magazines are crap as the lips are too soft and won’t stay in adjustment. The major concern with the Victor is the potential for a crack in the frame rail above the cut out for the slide stop. The steel in between the slide stop cut out and the magazine well it thin, and the frame is 1045 alloy steel that is prone to fatigue cracks. Never shoot anything other than standard velocity ammunition in a 102 through 107 High Standard pistol and change the recoil spring frequently. https://histandard.info/PDF2017A/VICTOR%20VARIATIONS%20Latest%20%20%205-31-2017%20%20%20.pdf |
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Originally Posted By DakotaFAL: I have a couple High Standard Victors, a Hamden and an early East Hartford. type Status report message description Access to the specified resource has been forbidden. Apache Tomcat/7.0.68 (Ubuntu) |