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Posted: 6/8/2018 8:24:18 PM EDT
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Yes it can be done on a CNC machine. I don't know why more companys don't do it
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Posted: 6/9/2018 5:43:35 AM EDT
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Yes it can be done on a CNC machine. I don't know why more companys don't do it 
Think how much better a SA Range Officer or Colt models would be with checkering? 
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Posted: 6/9/2018 9:52:26 AM EDT
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Most companies do machine checkering....
Top quality hand checkering is an art form almost. From what I can tell hand checkering is a little nicer in the hand but you pay for it and typically machine checkering is perfect where only the best guys can make it perfect by hand |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 4:01:22 PM EDT
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Springfield offered very reasonable machine checkering before they stopped doing work.
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Posted: 6/9/2018 4:33:55 PM EDT
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The only one that does hand checkering is Baer. That’s why it looks all fucked up.
Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 4:57:57 PM EDT
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Most companies do machine checkering.... Top quality hand checkering is an art form almost. From what I can tell hand checkering is a little nicer in the hand but you pay for it and typically machine checkering is perfect where only the best guys can make it perfect by hand Mediocre hand checkering hurts the eyes. It has to be tip-top hand checkering to beat machine checkering. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 5:12:42 PM EDT
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Why don't they all do it?
Because not everyone likes it, and those who do will argue for hours over what LPI is best. :) Smooth frontstrap, checkering, serrations, golfball dimples, snakeskin, etc., etc. The variety of pistols on the market reflects the variety of buyers' tastes. Viva la difference! |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:03:31 PM EDT
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Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:03:45 PM EDT
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Machine checkering provides straighter and more consistent diamonds but it will require cleanup at the ends of the vertical rows for best results.
Good hand checkering involves a level of detail and customization (borders, etc.) that is hard to achieve on a machine. My favorite is machine cut checkering that is then finished by hand. I agree that is easier to do on a frame that you are already machining. It's a lot more work to do it on a random frame that may not even have a straight frontstrap. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:24:49 PM EDT
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I just throw some skateboard tape up there and call it a day
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:34:12 PM EDT
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My first attempt
1990's IPSC blaster 
2nd one ( after METALIFE HC ) 
3rd one 
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:46:29 PM EDT
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Why don't they all do it? Because not everyone likes it, and those who do will argue for hours over what LPI is best. :) You know why *I* never bought a SA RO? Because the front isn't checkered. My Colt LW Commander in .38Super would be PERFECT if it had checkering. Being poor like me, *I* can't afford to send it off & pay $200 to have it done. What I can do is pay an extra $50 on the retail end for it having it already on it. As for the LPI argument, if one doesn't like it, buy a non-checkered one & have it done. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 6:50:59 PM EDT
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As for why it's not standard...it's easier to add than it is to take away. For CCW and daily carry, some shooters prefer the smooth surface to prevent wear on their clothing and chafing on the skin.
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Posted: 6/9/2018 7:13:47 PM EDT
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Good to know.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 7:27:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Currently, one has to get up in the $1300+ range of a 1911 in order to get checkering. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 10:18:08 PM EDT
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I just throw some skateboard tape up there and call it a day |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 11:02:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Most my hard use guns to include my duty gun have skate board tape from the local skate shop.....with the exception of my custom carry springer and pro....which I believe the pro has hand checker....that is legit. I can def. tell the difference between my machine checkered CC and hand checkered pro. |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 11:26:28 PM EDT
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Shit, I should be in charge of some company's R&D department.
Think how much better a SA Range Officer or Colt models would be with checkering? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes it can be done on a CNC machine. I don't know why more companys don't do it
Think how much better a SA Range Officer or Colt models would be with checkering? I can't understand why more don't I think the remington carry and dan wessons are the cheapest options with FSC |
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Posted: 6/9/2018 11:49:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good to know.... |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 5:26:16 AM EDT
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I think the pro has the same checkering as the trp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This. Most my hard use guns to include my duty gun have skate board tape from the local skate shop.....with the exception of my custom carry springer and pro....which I believe the pro has hand checker....that is legit. I can def. tell the difference between my machine checkered CC and hand checkered pro. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 7:21:08 AM EDT
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I like to do my own. All of these are in process and before I cleaned them up. It's not hard, just requires patience and time.
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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:16:09 PM EDT
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I like to do my own. All of these are in process and before I cleaned them up. It's not hard, just requires patience and time. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20161228-195056-115868.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20161228-204907-115867.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337946/20161228-204915-115866.jpg  nice
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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:26:59 PM EDT
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Good to know.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. 
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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:53:47 PM EDT
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Whats the thought or consensus around here on these things?
https://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frame-hardware/front-straps/1911-checkered-front-strap-prod16409.aspx |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 1:01:54 PM EDT
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Whats the thought or consensus around here on these things? https://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frame-hardware/front-straps/1911-checkered-front-strap-prod16409.aspx |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 1:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dont just dont even waste your time. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 1:56:38 PM EDT
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My thoughts are that it might make sense for factories to offer it as an option.
For myself, I don't like checkering. I admire the skill and patience required to do quality hand checkering but at most I would prefer serrations. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 5:44:47 PM EDT
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Skateboard or stair tread tape is much better than the cheese grater.
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Posted: 6/10/2018 6:03:27 PM EDT
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Dont just dont even waste your time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whats the thought or consensus around here on these things? https://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/frame-parts/frame-hardware/front-straps/1911-checkered-front-strap-prod16409.aspx |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 8:56:33 PM EDT
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I disagree. I have a 1911 that has dimpled front strap. I wanted to see what checkered was like before I did it. For $8 I put one on and carried as well as shot it. I also decided on 30lpi as my checkerering pattern as it was a carry gun. That little front strap really helped. Me narrow things down. It never slipped and was better than a smooth front strap. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 10:27:00 PM EDT
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Y'all must laugh at my Hogue grips.
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Posted: 6/11/2018 4:33:03 AM EDT
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Y'all must laugh at my Hogue grips. |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 4:33:04 AM EDT
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Y'all must laugh at my Hogue grips. |
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Posted: 6/11/2018 8:19:45 PM EDT
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Hell I went with Les Baer over Wilson and I met Baer at the racetrack and realized he was a dick. lol He might've been in a mood because he was losing at the track, ever think of that?
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Posted: 6/12/2018 10:50:00 PM EDT
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A DE1911GSS comes with a checkered front strap and will run you about 800$. That is if you can get past the gigantic billboard and the moonies.
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Posted: 6/12/2018 10:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude they suck. Ive owned them any smith worth a shit will have examples if your on the fence. Also guys machine cut on a production level requires a different frame so the expense might be more than 50 bucks. |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 7:31:30 AM EDT
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Good to know.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. 
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Posted: 6/14/2018 7:47:05 AM EDT
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The only one that does hand checkering is Baer. That’s why it looks all fucked up. Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. A Machine can’t complete the checkering on the front strap do to tooling interference. All machine checkering has to be finished by hand. There’s a difference between hand and machine checkering, and hand checkering feels way better in the hand. I’m positive Jason Burton of Heirloom Precision can out checker a machine.
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Posted: 6/14/2018 4:17:27 PM EDT
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Wouldnt be my first choice but ahead of that Wilson garbage that thing and Shhok Buff are probably why I couldn't get into WC. Hell I went with Les Baer over Wilson and I met Baer at the racetrack and realized he was a dick. lol |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 5:23:48 PM EDT
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So, an add on checkered frontstrap and a buffer kept you from considering a Wilson? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 5:41:48 PM EDT
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Yep and his guys work wasnt worth the 5 to 750 buck premium |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:09:27 PM EDT
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Well, my Baer pistols with 20 lpi & 30 lpi are straight and true, not fucked up. A Machine can’t complete the checkering on her front strap do to tooling interference. All machine checkering has to be finished by hand. There’s a difference between hand and machine checkering, and hand checkering feels way better in the hand. I’m positive Jason Burton of Heirloom Precision can out checker a machine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only one that does hand checkering is Baer. That’s why it looks all fucked up. Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. A Machine can’t complete the checkering on her front strap do to tooling interference. All machine checkering has to be finished by hand. There’s a difference between hand and machine checkering, and hand checkering feels way better in the hand. I’m positive Jason Burton of Heirloom Precision can out checker a machine. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:39:47 PM EDT
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I'm confused. Wilsons don't come with an add on checkered front strap. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 8:44:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Post high res pics of Baer’s checkering from the side and we’ll see. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:11:39 PM EDT
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Hand checkering may be "better", but honestly it feels so similar to me that I can't tell the difference if it's done right. I had machine checkering done by SACS on my last gun, and it's excellent.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 10:16:13 PM EDT
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So I love checkering and prefer 20 LPI or 25 for carry....
Needed to add checkering to this Sokol 5” .45 but it’s honestly way back in the shoot rotation and really just a backup these days so I didn’t wanna put more cash into it right now since Nighthawk is getting my spare gun money so..... Skateboard tape to the rescue.... it’s not pretty but it’ll do.... temporarily.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 4:55:43 PM EDT
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Post high res pics of Baer’s checkering from the side and we’ll see. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only one that does hand checkering is Baer. That’s why it looks all fucked up. Machine checkering is better in every way than hand. A Machine can’t complete the checkering on her front strap do to tooling interference. All machine checkering has to be finished by hand. There’s a difference between hand and machine checkering, and hand checkering feels way better in the hand. I’m positive Jason Burton of Heirloom Precision can out checker a machine. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:16:35 PM EDT
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You could stipple it with a center punch too.
Machine cut checkering leaves cleaner, sharper points than a file. And unless you’re one the few 1911 plumbers who can, machine checkering is also straighter than hand cut. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 5:21:46 PM EDT
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You could stipple it with a center punch too. Machine cut checkering leaves cleaner, sharper points than a file. And unless you’re one the few 1911 plumbers who can, machine checkering is also straighter than hand cut. |
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Posted: 6/19/2018 6:16:49 PM EDT
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Just not a fan of the raised metal the machine needs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could stipple it with a center punch too. Machine cut checkering leaves cleaner, sharper points than a file. And unless you’re one the few 1911 plumbers who can, machine checkering is also straighter than hand cut. I prefer machine checkering over hand. |
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