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Posted: 8/20/2022 6:31:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:08:56 AM EDT
[#1]
Seems silly.
Yes, I know this isn't GD. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 11:28:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems silly. Yes, I know this isn't GD. Idle thought I had in the middle of the night. Thinking about it now, it's plenty long enough & strong enough, but the top strap & center pin would have to be raised, and the hammer lengthened. A 3-shot slug gun might be decent bear medicine. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 11:45:55 AM EDT
[#3]
I think you'd be better off with a howdah
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Posted: 8/20/2022 11:52:45 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you'd be better off with a howdah Oh, absolutely, or a Glock 40. Just had an idle thought this morning that these mini-shells are short enough to fit in all sorts of things. |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:49:27 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, absolutely, or a Glock 40. Just had an idle thought this morning that these mini-shells are short enough to fit in all sorts of things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think you'd be better off with a howdah Oh, absolutely, or a Glock 40. Just had an idle thought this morning that these mini-shells are short enough to fit in all sorts of things. Seems like something Taurus would make |
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Posted: 8/20/2022 7:52:13 PM EDT
[#6]
Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking
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Posted: 8/20/2022 8:01:41 PM EDT
[#7]
I opted to go the super shorty route. Naturally, smoothbore handgun = AOW.
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Posted: 8/20/2022 9:36:32 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking They made a 28 ga. ATF told em they couldn't bring it in. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 6:10:24 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, absolutely, or a Glock 40. Just had an idle thought this morning that these mini-shells are short enough to fit in all sorts of things. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 6:15:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the cartridge diameter is more of the practical concern than the cartridge length, as that will dictate the frame side due to cylinder diameter. I was thinking you could do staggered cylinders w/ a curved freebore on at least one cylinder to squeeze it in there. Couldn't use slugs but shot should work.  That would mean you'd need to load firing pin extensions/base plugs into the other two cylinders for the firing pin to reach the primer & to support the base of the shell. Yeah, I don't really think it would work, but entertaining to think about. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 6:20:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They made a 28 ga. ATF told em they couldn't bring it in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking They made a 28 ga. ATF told em they couldn't bring it in. That was a cool gun. I always wanted to see what a legit .410 shotgun pistol would do but nobody wants to do the AOW thing because they wouldn't sell. 28 would be super cool. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 6:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was a cool gun. I always wanted to see what a legit .410 shotgun pistol would do but nobody wants to do the AOW thing because they wouldn't sell. 28 would be super cool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking They made a 28 ga. ATF told em they couldn't bring it in. That was a cool gun. I always wanted to see what a legit .410 shotgun pistol would do but nobody wants to do the AOW thing because they wouldn't sell. 28 would be super cool. Take the .410 Mossberg Shockwave, get stamp, cut it down. Probably more fun w/ a rifled bbl in .45 Colt, though. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 6:29:33 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking Got my attention |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:08:44 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Take the .410 Mossberg Shockwave, get stamp, cut it down. Probably more fun w/ a rifled bbl in .45 Colt, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Four shot 20 gauge Judge. Yes I’m drinking They made a 28 ga. ATF told em they couldn't bring it in. That was a cool gun. I always wanted to see what a legit .410 shotgun pistol would do but nobody wants to do the AOW thing because they wouldn't sell. 28 would be super cool. Take the .410 Mossberg Shockwave, get stamp, cut it down. Probably more fun w/ a rifled bbl in .45 Colt, though. Nah I've already got legit shorty shotguns. I want a smoothbore Revolver. Something that might actually pattern well with shot. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah I've already got legit shorty shotguns. I want a smoothbore Revolver. Something that might actually pattern well with shot. Form 1 Judge, replace the bbl? I'd like to get a Judge & have the cylinders cut for .45 ACP & moon clips. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:22:45 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Form 1 Judge, replace the bbl? I'd like to get a Judge & have the cylinders cut for .45 ACP & moon clips. Why not just get the Governor it's already cut for clips if I remember right. I'll never own a Taurus if I can help it. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:24:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Giant mateba style with barrel at the 6 o'clock cylinder position...
Having something that looks like it belongs in Hellboy would sell. Make it absurd for sake of being absurd and make barrel rifled for minislugs |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:28:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not just get the Governor it's already cut for clips if I remember right. I'll never own a Taurus if I can help it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Form 1 Judge, replace the bbl? I'd like to get a Judge & have the cylinders cut for .45 ACP & moon clips. Why not just get the Governor it's already cut for clips if I remember right. I'll never own a Taurus if I can help it. The Governor's a 6 shot w/ a Hillary Hole. If I'm shooting at snakes I want the best DA I can get, so I want the lightest cylinder I can have, a 2.5" 5 shot. My brother had one of their .357s cut down, I think to 5". Other than the shoddy gunsmithing work, I think he likes the gun. Taurus has produced some turkeys, but generally their copied designs have worked decently and their G2/G3 series seems to do well, given it's designed around a SIG P226 magazine. If you prefer the Governor, then Form 1 that & put a longer smoothbore bbl on it. Looking at the Governor, it's a scandium frame. I want no part of a lightweight frame past mild .38 wadcutters. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:51:46 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Taurus has produced some turkeys, but generally their copied designs have worked decently and their G2/G3 series seems to do well, given it's designed around a SIG P226 magazine. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 7:52:45 PM EDT
[#20]
I don't really want one and I would want it to be steel. It's been years since I've pulled the trigger on one so maybe they are better but that certainly did not use to be the case. I'd want a steel frame gun regardless if I were to go down this imaginary road. If the law wasn't so dumb I'd already have short shotgun barrels for my Encore.
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Posted: 8/21/2022 9:25:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Intriguingly, shotshells are ideal for a Nagant revolver action.
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Posted: 8/21/2022 9:38:39 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Intriguingly, shotshells are ideal for a Nagant revolver action. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 9:50:36 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Get one round a little too long and it'll tie the action up. Brass shot shells would work better I'd think. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Intriguingly, shotshells are ideal for a Nagant revolver action. Get one round a little too long and it'll tie the action up. Brass shot shells would work better I'd think. True. I'd like to see a suppressed revolver for .38 SPL wadcutters. Knowing how bad the trigger pull was on the DA Nagants, the juice is not worth the squeeze, but neat to think about. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 10:20:49 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: True. I'd like to see a suppressed revolver for .38 SPL wadcutters. Knowing how bad the trigger pull was on the DA Nagants, the juice is not worth the squeeze, but neat to think about. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intriguingly, shotshells are ideal for a Nagant revolver action. Get one round a little too long and it'll tie the action up. Brass shot shells would work better I'd think. True. I'd like to see a suppressed revolver for .38 SPL wadcutters. Knowing how bad the trigger pull was on the DA Nagants, the juice is not worth the squeeze, but neat to think about. |
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Posted: 8/21/2022 10:50:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It'd be easier to just set cylinder gap to .002 and not worry about it than try to come up with a gas seal. Sure you'll get a little pop, but no worse than port pop on a semi auto. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intriguingly, shotshells are ideal for a Nagant revolver action. Get one round a little too long and it'll tie the action up. Brass shot shells would work better I'd think. True. I'd like to see a suppressed revolver for .38 SPL wadcutters. Knowing how bad the trigger pull was on the DA Nagants, the juice is not worth the squeeze, but neat to think about. It'd be easier to just set cylinder gap to .002 and not worry about it than try to come up with a gas seal. Sure you'll get a little pop, but no worse than port pop on a semi auto. Oh, much. But while a suppressed Dan Wesson is cool, a bespoke Nagant in .38 Special Wadcutter would be ridiculously awesome. |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 1:40:17 PM EDT
[#26]
You’d end up with something that looked like the Hellboy Good Samaritan:
 
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Posted: 8/22/2022 4:27:32 PM EDT
[#27]
I'm good w/ that. Better snake medicine than a judge, and ridiculous range gun.
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Posted: 8/22/2022 7:38:20 PM EDT
[#28]
And actually I remembered the Russians have been doing it for a bit, but with five shells:
 https://modernfirearms.net/en/shotguns/russia-shotguns/mc-255-eng/ |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 7:51:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And actually I remembered the Russians have been doing it for a bit, but with five shells: https://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/shotgun/Rus/1419157614.jpg https://modernfirearms.net/en/shotguns/russia-shotguns/mc-255-eng/ That's pretty awesome! |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 7:57:51 PM EDT
[#30]
It's the type of idea that's so rediculous and or stupid it comes back around to being awesome.
16 ga might be closer to not being an anvil with a grip |
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Posted: 8/22/2022 8:40:20 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the type of idea that's so rediculous and or stupid it comes back around to being awesome. 16 ga might be closer to not being an anvil with a grip 12 ga mini-shells are cute little numbers w/ less throw, so should have less recoil than full house 12 ga. |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 9:57:03 PM EDT
[#32]
I would imagine it'd be pretty easy to pay your money to the king for a stamp then have the barrel of a Judge/Governor honed smooth but that's still only .410. I wonder if you wanted to do a 12ga with a revolving cylinder if they'd try to classify it as a DD like whatever retarded (lack of) logic they used on the old Street Sweepers.
I've thought about something similar but with the possibility of it being a DD, I thought about making it as a back powder gun. Something like a Schoefield since pressures would be lower than a smokeless powder charge, maybe four shot, that you could drop a loaded cylinder in, cap the nipples (because you'd have to be nuts to carry a capped cylinder despite Clint doing it in Pale Rider- fumble it and boom) and be ready to fire. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:54:55 PM EDT
[#33]
If one were inclined to turn a Judge/Governor into an AOW, it would probably be possible to source an appropriate .38/.357 barrel and bore it out. I'd presume that the frame threads match other models. It would need to be timed though. Of course one could also be made from a blank, but it would probably be more costly. Might as well thread it for choke tubes too while you're at it. It would be kind of an interesting toy. It would be quite a challenge for dove hunting or skeet.
No way an x-frame is going to accommodate any number of 12 gauge shells, the shell diameter is too large. 28 gauge might be doable as a 5-shot. I doubt you'd even get 20 gauge to work with a standard cylinder diameter. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:27:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If one were inclined to turn a Judge/Governor into an AOW, it would probably be possible to source an appropriate .38/.357 barrel and bore it out. I'd presume that the frame threads match other models. It would need to be timed though. Of course one could also be made from a blank, but it would probably be more costly. Might as well thread it for choke tubes too while you're at it. It would be kind of an interesting toy. It would be quite a challenge for dove hunting or skeet. No way an x-frame is going to accommodate any number of 12 gauge shells, the shell diameter is too large. 28 gauge might be doable as a 5-shot. I doubt you'd even get 20 gauge to work with a standard cylinder diameter. What's the measurement of 28ga? It only fits 5 of 500 so I doubt you get 5 28ga. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 12:01:11 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the measurement of 28ga? It only fits 5 of 500 so I doubt you get 5 28ga. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 4:11:33 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd need something bigger than an X frame. Base diameter is .689, rim diameter is .757. Compared to .526 and .556 for .500 S&W. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's the measurement of 28ga? It only fits 5 of 500 so I doubt you get 5 28ga. The prototype Taurus Raging Judge 28g was on a much larger frame than the 410 models |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 2:48:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The prototype Taurus Raging Judge 28g was on a much larger frame than the 410 models Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the measurement of 28ga? It only fits 5 of 500 so I doubt you get 5 28ga. The prototype Taurus Raging Judge 28g was on a much larger frame than the 410 models It was Huuuuuuuge |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 4:46:12 PM EDT
[#38]
It was MBGA?
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