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Posted: 6/9/2021 7:51:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Good choice, will be much more enjoyable for you on all counts.
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Posted: 6/9/2021 8:06:53 PM EDT
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They're neat little carry pistols, for me,
a little quicker from concealment and with a RDS just as self defence accurate 3 - 25yds as any 4" gun I own. Hope you find the same. |
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Posted: 6/9/2021 9:15:03 PM EDT
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I did like it more than I thought I would. 5 or 600 rounds will tell me if I’m keeping it. Just going to shoot it for a while before I go all in.
Really moderate recoil for a small gun in 9. The one i shot had a RDS. Not ready for that yet, but it was nice. |
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Posted: 6/9/2021 9:48:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did like it more than I thought I would. 5 or 600 rounds will tell me if I’m keeping it. Just going to shoot it for a while before I go all in. Really moderate recoil for a small gun in 9. The one i shot had a RDS. Not ready for that yet, but it was nice. I shot a 365 and a 365XL before I bought an XL. The 365 was not for me, but I’m getting close to 1000 rounds through my XL and at this point I don’t know what it would take for me to change to a different 9mm for CC. I’ve already sold two 9mm pistols since I bought it, and in the end it may be the only 9mm pistol I keep. Also, I would suggest using two relatively inexpensive accessories, while you’re making your decision. Adhesive grips(I used Handleitgrips, instead of Talon, for the XL, because it had the cut-out for the Sig Sauer logo) and a Pro Ledge base pad. |
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Posted: 6/9/2021 9:56:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .. and a Pro Ledge base pad. |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 2:18:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...never heard of those - off to look Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .. and a Pro Ledge base pad. https://tactical.dev/products/sig-p365-xl-pinky-plus OP, if you have medium to big sized hands, invest in these for your 12 rounders. The flush fit 12 round left just the tinniest gap in my grip which while not a deal breaker, was just enough to be annoying. These fixed that problem without adding a bunch of length to the grip. They made the xl grip frame absolutely perfect. 
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Posted: 6/10/2021 8:28:34 AM EDT
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I do have big paws, I think the one I shot had something like that, maybe the same one. Thanks for the link.
Today is Dillon day, I’m going to finish up loading my run of 40, then change over to 9 and put together some test loads. Just about out of my stock of cheap factory 9. Fortunately I laid in a case of 124 gr HST and have plenty of that. |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 8:41:26 AM EDT
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I have the xl upper on a regular lower. Makes carry super easy and I got the longer slide/red dot mount/flat trigger all going on.
Buy a 507k right now and add it. Honestly. I’m as accurate with my Sig at 25 yards and the dot as I am with my Les baer 5”. |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 11:14:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the xl upper on a regular lower. Makes carry super easy and I got the longer slide/red dot mount/flat trigger all going on. Buy a 507k right now and add it. Honestly. I’m as accurate with my Sig at 25 yards and the dot as I am with my Les baer 5”. I knew you liked yours. I believe that is the same dot that was on the one I shot. Once I found the dot, hits were pretty easy. I’m not quite ready to migrate to a dot gun yet. Are you having any issues switching from a dot gun back to a sight gun? I still have a few good years of competition shooting left in me, and I do pretty well with irons. It’ll be nice to lose a little weight from this. Alloy frame too, with 9 230 gr.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 11:20:36 AM EDT
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Forgot to ask, do these prefer any weight of 9? I have most weights of bullets in stock. My other 9s do well with 124 gr under a medium charge of HP38.
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Posted: 6/10/2021 11:22:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the xl upper on a regular lower. Makes carry super easy and I got the longer slide/red dot mount/flat trigger all going on. Buy a 507k right now and add it. Honestly. I’m as accurate with my Sig at 25 yards and the dot as I am with my Les baer 5”. Yup, the juice is well worth the squeeze It almost doesn't make sense the gun shoots as well as it does. I've got a Magguts 14+ 1 kit being delivered today, if that proves as reliable as the Shield kit's I've had... Damn impressive |
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Posted: 6/10/2021 11:28:42 AM EDT
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I was shocked at how well that small gun shot, once I found the dot.
Cleaned off the Tex star at 15 yards with 10 shots.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 12:52:53 PM EDT
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Gorgeous range backdrop and nice truck brother!
I have no regrets at all with my 365XL. It truly shoots like a bigger gun. I'm down to two 9mm handguns, the 365XL and an FN 509 Mid. Both are solely for HD/SD. Both shoot really nice for me, and I trust my/loved ones lives with both. Sad to let go of all the nice 9mm builds I did over the years, but with ammo pricing they saw little to no use. So we focus in on guns that will get used.. As for ammo... mine will eat anything I've fed it thus far. Even 115g Aluminum case. 115/124/147 all run flawless. I've yet to try my 150g HST, I've only got 40 rounds of that. For carry, 147g HST. But, I just scored a brick of Speer GD JHP 124g +P. That should work every bit as good. Truthfully, anything from 7-15yrds all work well. I shoot a 7" bullseye target and they all stay where I want them. I do cheat though.. Holosun 507k X2 red dot. Makes it way too easy. Congrats my friend, post more pics of your range! I'm jealous!! |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 1:59:40 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the input guys. I have held off on getting anything smaller than mid size for carry, but all the positive feedback and shooting a 365 was enough to change my mind. Just waiting on the call from the LGS.
That range is likely the finest around. About the only thing they don’t cater to is slingshots. Cameo shooting and education complex. 240 miles west of Denver, but in my backyard. CPW must have thrown us a bone after the wolf vote lol. Millions spent so far.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileMany steel targets, including dozens up the side of that mountain out to 600. A separate long range precision rifle range is not shown, 1800 yards with steel and strobes to call hits. Multiple clays courses with SxS rentals for transportation. Archery courses. Come out and I’ll give you the tour. |
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Posted: 6/11/2021 2:28:06 PM EDT
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Absolutely spectacular. What a cool range! Enjoy the heck out of it my friend.
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Posted: 6/12/2021 7:24:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew you liked yours. I believe that is the same dot that was on the one I shot. Once I found the dot, hits were pretty easy. I’m not quite ready to migrate to a dot gun yet. Are you having any issues switching from a dot gun back to a sight gun? I still have a few good years of competition shooting left in me, and I do pretty well with irons. It’ll be nice to lose a little weight from this. Alloy frame too, with 9 230 gr. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/18330687-90DB-4A81-92EF-AB3711448E69_jpe-1973691.JPG It takes a little practice but I acclimated to the dot in no time. Did some sighting in at the range. Then a few days of dryfire and it’s faster than iron sights. It extends my accuracy range with a handgun snd makes anything closer faster than irons. Can’t argue that |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 8:27:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew you liked yours. I believe that is the same dot that was on the one I shot. Once I found the dot, hits were pretty easy. I'm not quite ready to migrate to a dot gun yet. Are you having any issues switching from a dot gun back to a sight gun? I still have a few good years of competition shooting left in me, and I do pretty well with irons. It'll be nice to lose a little weight from this. Alloy frame too, with 9 230 gr. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/18330687-90DB-4A81-92EF-AB3711448E69_jpe-1973691.JPG   |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 12:03:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://tactical.dev/products/sig-p365-xl-pinky-plus OP, if you have medium to big sized hands, invest in these for your 12 rounders. The flush fit 12 round left just the tinniest gap in my grip which while not a deal breaker, was just enough to be annoying. These fixed that problem without adding a bunch of length to the grip. They made the xl grip frame absolutely perfect. I concur. I bought them for all my mags (2 12's and 2 15's) Not only do they look better, they actually function better over the OE baseplate design. |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 12:06:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWho's holsters? They look great. |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 1:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's holsters? They look great. Ronin Leather Holsters |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 1:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ronin Leather Holsters, Dave does a great job and these are very affordable with a turn around time usually less than 2 weeks. His communication is outstanding and will make it how you want it, not bad for an old veteran! The two examples above are exceedingly comfortable and I would absolutely buy from him again. Ronin Leather Holsters Thank you brother! |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 2:12:06 PM EDT
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Another goody that's cheap, and works well. Hogue HandALL
They're a PITA to install (I use Windex) but after a 24 hour dry time it's on like Donkey Kong. As much as I truly love the factory Sig grip module texture, these just seem to work for me at least. Palm swell is really nice, and the infamous Hogue rubber is the best. Not for everyone, but worth a shot. After unloading a few select higher end pistols, I went bat-shit crazy and bought the ZEV Z365XL. Not really worth the extra cheddar over a stock Sig, but I like having the irons on there as well. ZEV should have used the Trijicon HD's like I had to install, the factory units are useless when the RD is mounted. Also, Sig, are you listening? Please redesign the slide to have full irons with the dot mounted. Also procured the Streamlight TRL-7 Sub. Just in case I want 2 home defense guns at the ready. Options... And I've said this elsewhere, these guns shoot like a bigger gun. Seriously. I've had enough trigger time with it and my FN 509 Mid. To me, it shoots every bit as good. Much, much better than a Glock G43 I unloaded as well. 
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Posted: 6/12/2021 2:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I concur. I bought them for all my mags (2 12's and 2 15's) Not only do they look better, they actually function better over the OE baseplate design. Try a magguts +2 kit, it's a hair shorter, 2.5 x the price but you pick up 2 rds |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 2:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try a magguts +2 kit, it's a hair shorter, 2.5 x the price but you pick up 2 rds I'll have to research that. But truthfully, I'm still gawking at OP's truck & shooting range...  |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 4:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll have to research that. But truthfully, I'm still gawking at OP's truck & shooting range... This is the range I’ve belonged to for 20 years in grand jct. nice place but Cameo is boss. We had a work day today, and I spent it checking fence and picking trash. At least I had the ride for it.  Attached File Attached FileLooking back to the line.  Attached FileRifle line, and a 3 legged mascot.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 5:21:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Try a magguts +2 kit, it's a hair shorter, 2.5 x the price but you pick up 2 rds Always been curious about the reliability of those. |
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Posted: 6/12/2021 7:57:20 PM EDT
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In my Shield, yes, 100%,
Just got one Thursday for my XL I cleaned the mag and put the kit in last night, loaded it, let it sit over night,today I emptied / filled it a couple of times and ran 100rds of 124gr S&B and 50rds of 124gr HST. I ran it full + 1, same as I carry, ran it slow and fast, Every round fed as it should, slide locked back every time, perfect function. The base plate extends 3/16" further than the Sig plate, no significant change in concealment. I do think, if you start with a good clean mag tube, make Sure the kit' s installed properly so the spring and follower travel smoothly, good to go. If I get the same results next time out, I'm gonna carry it and order a couple more. |
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Posted: 6/16/2021 12:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another goody that's cheap, and works well. Hogue HandALL They're a PITA to install (I use Windex) but after a 24 hour dry time it's on like Donkey Kong. As much as I truly love the factory Sig grip module texture, these just seem to work for me at least. Palm swell is really nice, and the infamous Hogue rubber is the best. Not for everyone, but worth a shot. After unloading a few select higher end pistols, I went bat-shit crazy and bought the ZEV Z365XL. Not really worth the extra cheddar over a stock Sig, but I like having the irons on there as well. ZEV should have used the Trijicon HD's like I had to install, the factory units are useless when the RD is mounted. Also, Sig, are you listening? Please redesign the slide to have full irons with the dot mounted. Also procured the Streamlight TRL-7 Sub. Just in case I want 2 home defense guns at the ready. Options... And I've said this elsewhere, these guns shoot like a bigger gun. Seriously. I've had enough trigger time with it and my FN 509 Mid. To me, it shoots every bit as good. Much, much better than a Glock G43 I unloaded as well. https://media.fotki.com/2v2aeqHzSx9T3R.jpg I tried the Hogue and it wasn’t for me. The top edge doesn’t feel right with my grip and it doesn’t solve the problem of getting some textured grip for my thumb. Maybe, someone can explain to me why Sig doesn’t texture the modules all the way up through the thumb rest. Even their latest module - on which they focused so greatly on the texture - for the Spectre doesn’t have a textured thumb rest. Adhesive grips have worked very well for me. I clean the grip surface well, take my time lining them up and do a good job heating with a blow dryer. They’re cheap, so when they begin to wear - which takes a surprisingly long time - I replace them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/17/2021 10:49:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried the Hogue and it wasn’t for me. The top edge doesn’t feel right with my grip and it doesn’t solve the problem of getting some textured grip for my thumb. Maybe, someone can explain to me why Sig doesn’t texture the modules all the way up through the thumb rest. Even their latest module - on which they focused so greatly on the texture - for the Spectre doesn’t have a textured thumb rest. Adhesive grips have worked very well for me. I clean the grip surface well, take my time lining them up and do a good job heating with a blow dryer. They’re cheap, so when they begin to wear - which takes a surprisingly long time - I replace them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/D82D515B-C44F-4BF9-97B7-02F8F86810A9_jpe-1980394.JPG First off nice job on the install. Clean. I had a Talon grip wrap on my G43, made a world of difference. You're right, they're cheap and easy to replace if/when they wear out. Pic whore the ol Glock.. 
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Posted: 6/18/2021 9:28:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Love my 365XL. I added the Holosun and Tlr 7 sub. I'm still working on my grip, especially left thumb placement (ride the edge of the light?) but it really does carry like a pocket gun and shoot like a full size.
I keep hearing about Cameo but haven't made the trip yet. I've got BLM land 8 minutes from my house but I'm not sure I feel comfortable shooting steel out there this year due to all the fire danger. I may have to make the extra drive out your way. Looks like one he'll of a range. 
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Posted: 6/18/2021 10:38:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the xl upper on a regular lower. Makes carry super easy and I got the longer slide/red dot mount/flat trigger all going on. Buy a 507k right now and add it. Honestly. I’m as accurate with my Sig at 25 yards and the dot as I am with my Les baer 5”. I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 7:34:14 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 8:47:13 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or maybe one prefers the extra grip length for better purchase? The length difference in the slides really doesn't make a difference in appendix carry, if anything the XL is a bit more stable due to extra 3/4" inch slide. My point, so why not just go with the XL and get the added velocity and longer sight as well? |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 10:07:42 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My point, so why not just go with the XL and get the added velocity and longer sight as well? I'm with you, don't really get the "X" variation. I get it that some would like it, but feel the XL is great as is. And just do the original 365 for pocket carry / deep concealment. Choices are good, better than not. |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 5:24:33 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? As for mags, yes - you can use 12s and 15s in a 365, but there is a difference between having a mag as the grip extension and having a solid, unmoving longer grip. |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 5:51:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm with you, don't really get the "X" variation. I get it that some would like it, but feel the XL is great as is. And just do the original 365 for pocket carry / deep concealment. Choices are good, better than not. My thoughts exactly, I have both and have tried swapping slides and modules but, I carry appendix and prefer the longer holster anyway so, I carry the XL with 407K AIWB most days in the summer and keep the 365 for rare pocket or Enigma carry but to each their own. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 10:26:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The G19x is the same design, isn't it? 19 slide, 17 grip? As for mags, yes - you can use 12s and 15s in a 365, but there is a difference between having a mag as the grip extension and having a solid, unmoving longer grip. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? As for mags, yes - you can use 12s and 15s in a 365, but there is a difference between having a mag as the grip extension and having a solid, unmoving longer grip. I just switched my 365 slide to an XL frame and I love it. The thing I didn't like about the 365 frame with the 12 round extenders is that they made the grip curve inwards too much, if that makes sense. It made the angle of the grip feel wonky. The XL frame doesn't seem to do that. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 11:20:39 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just switched my 365 slide to an XL frame and I love it. The thing I didn't like about the 365 frame with the 12 round extenders is that they made the grip curve inwards too much, if that makes sense. It made the angle of the grip feel wonky. The XL frame doesn't seem to do that. I can certainly see someone who already has a 365 getting the XL grip. Cheap to buy, and a super easy swap. That makes sense.. Enjoy the added grip length! |
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Posted: 6/21/2021 6:55:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? that's the opposite of what I did. I have the long (XL) upper on a short (regular ass 365 lower). I carry at 3 o' clock and it's nice to have the option of short and well hidden with the shorter mag but be able to bump up. I wanted the XL for the pre-cut slide, flat trigger, and longer barrel. also the X proper wasn't out. I would have bought that and done the short grip. Cheaper to buy a whole gun with a cut than replace the uppers/slides or have them cut. |
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Posted: 6/22/2021 10:48:42 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can certainly see someone who already has a 365 getting the XL grip. Cheap to buy, and a super easy swap. That makes sense.. Enjoy the added grip length! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just switched my 365 slide to an XL frame and I love it. The thing I didn't like about the 365 frame with the 12 round extenders is that they made the grip curve inwards too much, if that makes sense. It made the angle of the grip feel wonky. The XL frame doesn't seem to do that. I can certainly see someone who already has a 365 getting the XL grip. Cheap to buy, and a super easy swap. That makes sense.. Enjoy the added grip length! I will, thanks! Its really all about the interchangeability - I prefer the longer grip but recognize the value of the shorter grip. I'll likely keep it on the XL grip module 90+% of the time but if I need a more compact pistol I'll have one in about 2 minutes, and then back to the XL when the need passes. I know some accomplish this with mag extensions but like I said before it's really not the same thing, at least for me. |
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Posted: 6/23/2021 6:54:49 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: that's the opposite of what I did. I have the long (XL) upper on a short (regular ass 365 lower). I carry at 3 o' clock and it's nice to have the option of short and well hidden with the shorter mag but be able to bump up. I wanted the XL for the pre-cut slide, flat trigger, and longer barrel. also the X proper wasn't out. I would have bought that and done the short grip. Cheaper to buy a whole gun with a cut than replace the uppers/slides or have them cut. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't really understand the X. Why have the xl length grip with the shorter slide? You can still use the 12rnd mags. I guess maybe you want as short length as possible if you appendix carry? that's the opposite of what I did. I have the long (XL) upper on a short (regular ass 365 lower). I carry at 3 o' clock and it's nice to have the option of short and well hidden with the shorter mag but be able to bump up. I wanted the XL for the pre-cut slide, flat trigger, and longer barrel. also the X proper wasn't out. I would have bought that and done the short grip. Cheaper to buy a whole gun with a cut than replace the uppers/slides or have them cut. @Stevie What holster are you using for the P365 lower with the XL upper for 3 o’clock carry? Just curious. Thinking about trying it and I know the regular 365’s will 9 times out of 10 fit in a P365XL holster for most holster brands |
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Posted: 6/23/2021 9:05:21 PM EDT
[#42]
I’ve got a 365XL and carry it with the XL slide and 365 lower. I carry it in either an Incog or JM Custom holster
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Posted: 8/11/2021 4:18:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/11/2021 5:15:25 PM EDT
[#44]
I have been carrying my mutant P365L (XL upper/standard lower) appendix in a Slicc holster for about a week. Spare 12rnd mag in a Neo-mag. Not a bad setup.
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Posted: 8/11/2021 11:00:44 PM EDT
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I’m going to have pick up a few more mags. The 15 rd look like I’ll get a bit more grip, not sure if needed, but my pinky is just off the grip with the 12. Gotta check out the mag bases that hang out a bit more.
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Posted: 8/12/2021 10:35:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to have pick up a few more mags. The 15 rd look like I'll get a bit more grip, not sure if needed, but my pinky is just off the grip with the 12. Gotta check out the mag bases that hang out a bit more. First I better shoot a couple hundred rounds https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/857/7B6DDDDB-10F5-4310-8F64-4905C1DDB9C3_jpe-2049413.JPG If that is a recent production model, curious as to the function of your manual safety. Can you engage the safety when the pistol isn't cocked? |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Not sure about that safety function. I’ve only taken it down for cleaning and lube, SIG did well with the takedown lever.
I did find the slide can be retracted with the safety engaged, but I didn’t see if I could engage it with the striker down. I assume it is recent production.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 3:33:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure about that safety function. I’ve only taken it down for cleaning and lube, SIG did well with the takedown lever. I did find the slide can be retracted with the safety engaged, but I didn’t see if I could engage it with the striker down. I assume it is recent production.. Yeah, it’s a damn good design, but a little finnicky to put back together if you accidentally knock the actuator bar out of it. Another nifty little feature is that you cannot insert a magazine with the takedown lever spun down to remove the slide. Found that our when I was changing to an Icarus frame and went to test the mag release While I still had the gun apart. Those cheap bastards don’t include a mag release, you need to bogart the one off your factory grip. (Which is a pain in the dick with a set of punches. Best fucking tool for those is a phone sim card removal tool, oddly enough.)
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Posted: 8/12/2021 6:08:12 PM EDT
[#49]
I’ve done quite a few mag release button swaps, I found using an Exacto blade knife works really well. Still a bit tricky on the first try, but it’s like magic once you get it down.
Carry on.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2021 7:20:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Yeah, the safety works striker in either position.
I hit the range today, about 150 rounds. I think I like it. Range report in new thread. |
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