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Posted: 1/9/2020 3:16:15 PM EDT
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I own one.. fired about 300 rounds thru her so far. Heavy.. but like you said, exquisite. Trigger is the best Beretta trigger I have ever felt. Accuracy is on par with several other high end target guns... its a winner for the money.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 1:21:29 AM EDT
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Beretta sales those trigger kits too.
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Posted: 1/10/2020 5:11:22 PM EDT
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I just bought one. I’m having trouble with mag changes. The stupid frame safety blocks my thumb from the slide release.
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Posted: 1/11/2020 11:43:01 AM EDT
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I just bought one. I'm having trouble with mag changes. The stupid frame safety blocks my thumb from the slide release. |
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Posted: 1/18/2020 8:16:08 PM EDT
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I have 350 rounds through mine and mag changes are fine for me, but I use my reaction hand thumb.
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Posted: 1/19/2020 2:55:51 PM EDT
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I think the slide stop inaccessibility is about the biggest blunder Beretta ever made. I'd rather have a smaller safety lever on mine than be compelled to use my left hand.
Anyway, when Beretta has parts available, I'll buy a new safety and grind it away till the slide stop is more easily used with my right thumb :-) |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 3:19:05 PM EDT
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I think the slide stop inaccessibility is about the biggest blunder Beretta ever made. I'd rather have a smaller safety lever on mine than be compelled to use my left hand. Anyway, when Beretta has parts available, I'll buy a new safety and grind it away till the slide stop is more easily used with my right thumb :-) |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 3:51:27 PM EDT
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Yep pretty much my only issue. I was shooting silhouettes at 100 and 200 yards yesterday with it and was scoring plenty of hits. The rail beside being (IMO) an appendage looking for a purpose on such an already large gun, when I use the forward serrations on the slide from underneath the rail scrapes my left palm. I'm also not fond of the serrated trigger. Ergonomically I would have other done things differently, but they didn't ask :-) |
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Posted: 1/19/2020 8:20:07 PM EDT
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Is the safety stopping people from using their thumbs to depress the slide release?
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Posted: 1/21/2020 8:39:48 PM EDT
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Is the safety stopping people from using their thumbs to depress the slide release? On other forums a few members have said they can use their right thumb to do it, but their thumb is either long and bent, or their rose colored glasses got in the way of seeing the problem :-) |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 1:26:06 AM EDT
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Unless your right thumb is very long, and crooked (bent inward) it's most likely you have to use the left hand thumb (right hand shooters) to use the slide stop / release. |
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Posted: 1/22/2020 8:58:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: >>SNIP<< Seeing as how the gun was built based off input from IPSC shooters (mainly) I can see why dominant thumb access to the slide release wasnt a big thing versus the safety which can be used to provide more control over the pistol during firing. Beretta isn't exactly well represented in gun games but speed holsters are far and few (if at all) between, and a rail with a brig slide would make a new holster necessary, which likely doesn't exist for a 92 with a brig slide and a rail. Maybe I'm wrong, at any rate, we'll see if the big holster makers start churning out rigs for them, I hope so, I'd like one :-) |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 5:03:38 AM EDT
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That's the first I heard of that. If that's so then IPSC shooters approved of the rail? And the Brig slide? Beretta isn't exactly well represented in gun games but speed holsters are far and few (if at all) between, and a rail with a brig slide would make a new holster necessary, which likely doesn't exist for a 92 with a brig slide and a rail. Maybe I'm wrong, at any rate, we'll see if the big holster makers start churning out rigs for them, I hope so, I'd like one :-) |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 7:04:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ernest Langdon was recently speaking about it when someone asked him if he had any input on the X series and he said all of the input came from European IPSC shooters. IIRC, he stated the brig slide was chosen for weight with their goal being to get the gun close to the weight of a Tanfo. The rail is there to make it easier to add a frame mounted optic as seen with the promo photos of the 92X in open gun configuration. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 9:23:36 AM EDT
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That explains it, thanks. We'll see if competitors buy them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ernest Langdon was recently speaking about it when someone asked him if he had any input on the X series and he said all of the input came from European IPSC shooters. IIRC, he stated the brig slide was chosen for weight with their goal being to get the gun close to the weight of a Tanfo. The rail is there to make it easier to add a frame mounted optic as seen with the promo photos of the 92X in open gun configuration. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 9:45:05 AM EDT
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This gun was designed for gun games, and if you're running to slide lock you messed up somewhere...
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Posted: 1/23/2020 10:11:49 AM EDT
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I bought it for completion. But my last match this past weekend it stayed in the safe and I used my Wilson. I can live with everything but that damn long safety. Wonder if I can take it off and sand it down to half the size. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 11:04:13 AM EDT
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This gun was designed for gun games, and if you're running to slide lock you messed up somewhere... The witness has the same issue with the slide stop/release but LOTS of peeps are using them and not crabbing about it! :-) Though I'm still mystified why the X'perf came with 14 round mags and hard plastic base plates when Beretta Italy has 17 round mags with softer rubber like thicker base pads available. |
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Posted: 1/23/2020 7:35:26 PM EDT
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I guess, NCPatrolAR was close to reality saying "brig slide was chosen for weight with their goal being to get the gun close to the weight of a Tanfo" The witness has the same issue with the slide stop/release but LOTS of peeps are using them and not crabbing about it! :-) Though I'm still mystified why the X'perf came with 14 round mags and hard plastic base plates when Beretta Italy has 17 round mags with softer rubber like thicker base pads available. This whole venture is a shot across the bow to their neighbors in Brescia. |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 10:37:35 PM EDT
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I'm not having any of these problems with mines.
But then again, I don't have fat hands or meaty hands. It fits perfect. But come on...man...... 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 12:52:55 AM EDT
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I'm not having any of these problems with mines. But then again, I don't have fat hands or meaty hands. It fits perfect. But come on...man...... |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 12:30:08 PM EDT
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You have very long thumbs then if you can hit the slide release. In general I have no problem using my right thumb for any pistol I've ever handled with the exception of the EAA witness and clones of that design. Retraining to use the left hand is the only answer. |
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Posted: 2/13/2020 1:43:29 AM EDT
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Got mine in and ran it through plenty of range time and a moving steel match. First things first-- there are very few holster options for this. I used a universal nylon "pouch" and it did its job but not well. RHT finally added the 92xP but every other holster maker I emailed said they can't do it. I wish Garrett offered their leather lined Kydex since I don't want to scratch up this fancy thing.
Slow fire back to back with a LTT, you can definitely feel the recoil impulse difference. DA trigger on the LTT actually seems preferred. But single action the 92xP is really, really crisp and the reset is unbelievably short with the screw turned out. For competition, manual hammer down is a bit annoying, and I am used to the safety ears for racking the gun. Sawtooth slide serrations are uncomfortable. The frame safety blocking the slide release is really bothersome for slide lock reloads but this can be fixed when Beretta USA finally has the smaller frame safety plus the wider slide release. I'm also not sure about the downward beavertail, I feel like my grip isn't as high as a regular 92. Certainly a cool gun but it has its cons. |
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Posted: 2/14/2020 8:39:15 AM EDT
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Got mine in and ran it through plenty of range time and a moving steel match. First things first-- there are very few holster options for this. I used a universal nylon "pouch" and it did its job but not well. RHT finally added the 92xP but every other holster maker I emailed said they can't do it. I wish Garrett offered their leather lined Kydex since I don't want to scratch up this fancy thing. Slow fire back to back with a LTT, you can definitely feel the recoil impulse difference. DA trigger on the LTT actually seems preferred. But single action the 92xP is really, really crisp and the reset is unbelievably short with the screw turned out. For competition, manual hammer down is a bit annoying, and I am used to the safety ears for racking the gun. Sawtooth slide serrations are uncomfortable. The frame safety blocking the slide release is really bothersome for slide lock reloads but this can be fixed when Beretta USA finally has the smaller frame safety plus the wider slide release. I'm also not sure about the downward beavertail, I feel like my grip isn't as high as a regular 92. Certainly a cool gun but it has its cons. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 1:44:45 PM EDT
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You discovered most of my nits :-) It's good to see owners write about warts and all issues, because those who either ignore or just do not understand them more than just a plinker do no favor to us. I still think the gun has a lot of potential, and I will be placing an order for a RHT holster soon enough. Part of me can't help but wonder if the Shadow 2 would be a better choice for most people since it comes out of the box not having any of these issues and fulfills the same role. I've been staring at the location of the S2 slide release in relation to the safety to see if it was ideal. Though from what I hear, the 92xP is not USPSA approved for production yet anyway. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 2:12:10 PM EDT
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That's the first I heard of that. If that's so then IPSC shooters approved of the rail? And the Brig slide? Beretta isn't exactly well represented in gun games but speed holsters are far and few (if at all) between, and a rail with a brig slide would make a new holster necessary, which likely doesn't exist for a 92 with a brig slide and a rail. Maybe I'm wrong, at any rate, we'll see if the big holster makers start churning out rigs for them, I hope so, I'd like one :-) |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 6:14:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:15:48 PM EDT
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How is the trigger compared to the 226 Legion?
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Posted: 3/19/2020 3:35:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the thing, this was meant to be for competition so the criticisms and feedback should be competition related. I still think the gun has a lot of potential, and I will be placing an order for a RHT holster soon enough. Part of me can't help but wonder if the Shadow 2 would be a better choice for most people since it comes out of the box not having any of these issues and fulfills the same role. I've been staring at the location of the S2 slide release in relation to the safety to see if it was ideal. Though from what I hear, the 92xP is not USPSA approved for production yet anyway. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 1:42:19 PM EDT
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I'm hoping the issues with ejection aren't common like I'm reading on Beretta forum, anybody here have these problems? Seems to be quite a few guys with problems there claiming
the extractor spring isn't stiff enough, and a couple have reported their extractor pin walking?? Seems odd considering it's basically a 92 with a few changes for competition. I haven't been able to fire mine due to the local range being down w/C19 freakout. I don't compete so dropping the slide with my left thumb won't be an issue but I would have preferred a smaller lever. I did order some LOK grips which are G10 which look great, should have them next week. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 5:15:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm hoping the issues with ejection aren't common like I'm reading on Beretta forum, anybody here have these problems? Seems to be quite a few guys with problems there claiming the extractor spring isn't stiff enough, and a couple have reported their extractor pin walking?? Seems odd considering it's basically a 92 with a few changes for competition. I haven't been able to fire mine due to the local range being down w/C19 freakout. I don't compete so dropping the slide with my left thumb won't be an issue but I would have preferred a smaller lever. I did order some LOK grips which are G10 which look great, should have them next week. |
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Posted: 4/22/2020 5:41:59 PM EDT
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That's good to hear, I'm hoping to have some rounds through mine next week fingers crossed!!
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Posted: 4/24/2020 9:03:46 AM EDT
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Those things are gorgeous.
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Posted: 5/1/2020 2:12:14 PM EDT
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Finally got to the range today and 200rds of 147gr. mixed HP and TC without a hitch. Zero malfunctions and very accurate, sights were right on. I tried all my 92 mags. 15,18,20 and 30 which all worked flawlessly even some old .mil issue mags. Function is very smooth and the trigger is phenomenal. Waiting on my LOK grips which will complete the package.
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Posted: 5/1/2020 3:45:56 PM EDT
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What’s the point of the curved down Beavertail? The more and more I shoot mine the less and less I like it. It’s almost uncomfortable to hold
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Posted: 5/1/2020 4:37:10 PM EDT
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I didn't notice it but the grips are a little slippery without gloves which I don't usually wear, but I have small hands so the beavertail is a non issue for me.
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Posted: 6/8/2020 7:35:32 PM EDT
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Alright I just wanna show off these new grips. It definitely helps and better than both factory grips.
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Posted: 6/8/2020 8:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alright I just wanna show off these new grips. It definitely helps and better than both factory grips. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/EDA265E0-FED4-49AE-ACB4-41177B8AF0D4_jpe-1453309.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/02CF7B84-B564-4783-BA5C-6143AADEB351_jpe-1453310.JPG 
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Posted: 6/9/2020 1:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alright I just wanna show off these new grips. It definitely helps and better than both factory grips. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/EDA265E0-FED4-49AE-ACB4-41177B8AF0D4_jpe-1453309.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/296004/02CF7B84-B564-4783-BA5C-6143AADEB351_jpe-1453310.JPG Oh that looks gorgeous. |
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Posted: 6/9/2020 5:16:01 PM EDT
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those LOK's are hot!!
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Posted: 6/9/2020 11:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those things are gorgeous. This. Seriously considering adding one to my collection. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 7:12:46 PM EDT
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If you have one now is the time to bail on it and pick one up cheap after Trump wins the election. I sent mine down the road.
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Posted: 6/10/2020 10:00:09 PM EDT
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As of tomorrow my X'perf will have been at Beretta for three months.
Having to whack the slide to get it off for cleaning (a fairly common issue) was a livable problem, but the last time I used it, it took me 15 minutes to put the slide back on! Not one of my many Beretta's ever had an issue like this. So... it's been there "Awaiting Inspection" for three months. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 10:04:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As of tomorrow my X'perf will have been at Beretta for three months. Having to whack the slide to get it off for cleaning (a fairly common issue) was a livable problem, but the last time I used it, it took me 15 minutes to put the slide back on! Not one of my many Beretta's ever had an issue like this. So... it's been there "Awaiting Inspection" for three months. First I have heard of this? Just too tight slide to frame? Like a custom 1911 with zero play? |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:19:40 PM EDT
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First? It's fairly common. No not at all like a tight 1911 frame/slide fit, it's somehow connected to barrel / slide / frame fit. Note: not the slide to frame fit.
I tried several other barrels and it does not bind at all with a Taurus barrel. I also have a rare 96D Brig slide which slips on and off without issues. I actually may have the "D" slide milled for the frame safety and use it as a .40 after I get it back. |
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Posted: 6/10/2020 11:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First? It's fairly common. No not at all like a tight 1911 frame/slide fit, it's somehow connected to barrel / slide / frame fit. Note: not the slide to frame fit. I tried several other barrels and it does not bind at all with a Taurus barrel. I also have a rare 96D Brig slide which slips on and off without issues. I actually may have the "D" slide milled for the frame safety and use it as a .40 after I get it back. Kiki Do you have any links or anything? I’ve googled for ten minutes straight and can’t find anyone talking about it. Any pictures of yours? Did it happen out of the box or how many rounds did it start? |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 12:55:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have one now is the time to bail on it and pick one up cheap after Trump wins the election. I sent mine down the road. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/264989/ED29C24D-974E-4756-B28B-CDCB6892ACE8_png-1456222.JPG What the......they are in stock in some places for the normal price. Man, I never score on GB like that. |
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Posted: 6/11/2020 7:16:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First? It's fairly common. No not at all like a tight 1911 frame/slide fit, it's somehow connected to barrel / slide / frame fit. Note: not the slide to frame fit. I tried several other barrels and it does not bind at all with a Taurus barrel. I also have a rare 96D Brig slide which slips on and off without issues. I actually may have the "D" slide milled for the frame safety and use it as a .40 after I get it back. |
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