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Posted: 12/13/2023 9:29:19 PM EDT
If you smelly hippies aren't spending a little cash right now you probably should. Dollar cost averaging is a thing. Waiting six months to save a penny may or may not work out.

Vegas currently says Trump is likely to win in 24. We will see... Anecdotal evidence and conspiracy theories regarding future elections aside, the Supreme Burrito Court may or may not come to the rescue in the AWB cases. The lower courts have pretty clearly shown that they do not care about Bruen, Heller, etc.

Blah blah free men don't follow rules and all that shit... If vendors won't ship to your state or products simply are no longer made, it doesn't matter how you feel about the law. Some of the states under these fun new(ish) laws were bastions of freedom in the not so recent past. Expect a reinvigorated push at state levels if they prevail in the appeal process. So-called sanctuary states are a joke when they won't support their residents when the Federales come to call. Google the Kansas suppressor guys if you want a warm fuzzy on that one.

Fudd bullets are the superior choice for all of your hand loading needs. Especially when they're cheap.

ShootersProShop 338 caliber 180 gr. Accubonds @ $0.44 each - https://www.shootersproshop.com/338-caliber-180gr-accubond-50ct-blem.html

Powder Valley .224" 63 gr. spitzer SP Sierra @ $0.16 each - https://www.powdervalley.com/product/factory-seconds-224-22-63-gr-semi-point/
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Only thing I can  think of I need would be some bulk 308. In for possible deals
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 9:51:52 PM EDT
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Federal HST 9mm 147gr P9HST2 for $499/1000 with Free Shipping.

Don't think I've seen it this low since 01/2020, when it was still $400/1000.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2/
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 9:56:08 PM EDT
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Good job OP. Don't sleep on these salad days of inflation.

Geco 124gr free ship $232
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 9:57:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/13/2023 9:58:56 PM EDT
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@buck19delta

I almost @ 'tted you in the OP

Your thread from 2019(?) helped me completely ignore the Covid/Biden/Aliens panic of 2020-2023.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:00:29 PM EDT
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Ordered three cans of mountain house to add to the stash.  Right before Oct 7th picked up 4k of Winchester LC 55Gr.  Lucked out with that one.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:03:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
Federal HST 9mm 147gr P9HST2 for $499/1000 with Free Shipping.

Don't think I've seen it this low since 01/2020, when it was still $400/1000.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2/
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@WhiskersTheCat
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:03:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zip196:
Good job OP. Don't sleep on these salad days of inflation.

Geco 124gr free ship $232
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That Geco is good shit
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:04:42 PM EDT
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Only thing I can  think of I need would be some bulk 308. In for possible deals
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I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:07:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
Federal HST 9mm 147gr P9HST2 for $499/1000 with Free Shipping.

Don't think I've seen it this low since 01/2020, when it was still $400/1000.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2/
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Nice
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@WhiskersTheCat
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Originally Posted By bluemax_1:
Federal HST 9mm 147gr P9HST2 for $499/1000 with Free Shipping.

Don't think I've seen it this low since 01/2020, when it was still $400/1000.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2/


@WhiskersTheCat

Thanks for the tag but can't do it right now.

Just set up my KAC LPR to run Black Hills dual purpose and that loadout, ammunition alone costed $1,400.

I'm spent right now.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:10:52 PM EDT
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I need more large pistol primers. I feel like I always need something. It's just a cycle but I like to shoot.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:19:25 PM EDT
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Still looking for $200 for 1k name brand 9mm. Will settle for $220 shipped...
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:22:49 PM EDT
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I've been looking for Imr 4064 powder and some winchester rifle primers for 308
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:25:27 PM EDT
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I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mississippiflush:
Only thing I can  think of I need would be some bulk 308. In for possible deals


I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.


Same boat.... Last time I bought them they were $0.15 each. Salad days indeed.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:31:00 PM EDT
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Geco was a great plinking option when it was 15.4cpr delivered at Target sports.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.
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Provided I had a decent amount of ammo, I wouldn't buy brass, I'll make that.


I would be buying what goes in the brass I'll make. Primers, powder, pills. In that order.


Nothing goes bang without primers, every size does multiple calibers

Same with powder

Pills are more caliber specific. I buy that by my supply and demand list

Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:43:12 PM EDT
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Call me when XM193 is below $400 a case again.
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Originally Posted By lokifox:


Same boat.... Last time I bought them they were $0.15 each. Salad days indeed.
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Originally Posted By lokifox:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mississippiflush:
Only thing I can  think of I need would be some bulk 308. In for possible deals


I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.


Same boat.... Last time I bought them they were $0.15 each. Salad days indeed.

You have to spread purchases in my opinion. It's the best way.

I signed up for prime during the big HST sale, did a few boxes at a time. I just finished my Black Hills thing, that took about a year. The key is to take advantage of free shipping (when it makes sense, sometimes it makes sense to pay shipping depending on price)

Also leverage credit. That doesn't mean stack credit card debt, but it does mean if a certain load is a one time steal, grab it and then dedicate your normal ammo budget to the charge. Obviously depends on interest rate, the size of your purchase, etc.

I guess in short, set goals
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:52:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CavVet:



Provided I had a decent amount of ammo, I wouldn't buy brass, I'll make that.


I would be buying what goes in the brass I'll make. Primers, powder, pills. In that order.


Nothing goes bang without primers, every size does multiple calibers

Same with powder

Pills are more caliber specific. I buy that by my supply and demand list

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Originally Posted By CavVet:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.



Provided I had a decent amount of ammo, I wouldn't buy brass, I'll make that.


I would be buying what goes in the brass I'll make. Primers, powder, pills. In that order.


Nothing goes bang without primers, every size does multiple calibers

Same with powder

Pills are more caliber specific. I buy that by my supply and demand list



Honestly, I'm pretty set on everything. I'd like the primed pulldown brass to load up some nice sealed SHTF ammo with pulled M319 and M80A1 (and some other interesting pulls) bullets I picked up a few years ago.

For target stuff, I have thousands of SBS and LC 7.62x51mm brass I got for $0.05/case in 2016. Those were in spirit of this thread. A reloading shop went out of business and I bought multiple auctioned lots off GB of deprimed (but crimp intact) brass for below scrap. Broke out the credit card for that and got like 15k
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 10:54:09 PM EDT
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You're not buck19delta!
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:08:27 PM EDT
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Call me when XM193 is below $400 a case again.
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Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Call me when XM193 is below $400 a case again.


You can clone MK262 for $300/case at current component prices. Just saying...

Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

You have to spread purchases in my opinion. It's the best way.

I signed up for prime during the big HST sale, did a few boxes at a time. I just finished my Black Hills thing, that took about a year. The key is to take advantage of free shipping (when it makes sense, sometimes it makes sense to pay shipping depending on price)

Also leverage credit. That doesn't mean stack credit card debt, but it does mean if a certain load is a one time steal, grab it and then dedicate your normal ammo budget to the charge. Obviously depends on interest rate, the size of your purchase, etc.

I guess in short, set goals


Fo sho.

Chase has an interest free purchase option on at least one of their cards... New discovery to me. No time like the current time to use someone else's money for freeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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You can clone MK262 for $300/case at current component prices. Just saying...



Fo sho.

Chase has an interest free purchase option on at least one of their cards... New discovery to me. No time like the current time to use someone else's money for freeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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Originally Posted By lokifox:
Originally Posted By GTRider245:
Call me when XM193 is below $400 a case again.


You can clone MK262 for $300/case at current component prices. Just saying...

Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat:

You have to spread purchases in my opinion. It's the best way.

I signed up for prime during the big HST sale, did a few boxes at a time. I just finished my Black Hills thing, that took about a year. The key is to take advantage of free shipping (when it makes sense, sometimes it makes sense to pay shipping depending on price)

Also leverage credit. That doesn't mean stack credit card debt, but it does mean if a certain load is a one time steal, grab it and then dedicate your normal ammo budget to the charge. Obviously depends on interest rate, the size of your purchase, etc.

I guess in short, set goals


Fo sho.

Chase has an interest free purchase option on at least one of their cards... New discovery to me. No time like the current time to use someone else's money for freeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

My man.

Funny enough I'm on that train with cash back match first year.

It's Spidey but with ammo.
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:17:40 PM EDT
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Still looking for $200 for 1k name brand 9mm. Will settle for $220 shipped...
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Find an Academy that will price comp this

https://proarmory.com/products/winchester-usa-9mm-luger-115-grain-full-metal-jacket-usa9w.html
Link Posted: 12/13/2023 11:21:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CavVet:



Provided I had a decent amount of ammo, I wouldn't buy brass, I'll make that.


I would be buying what goes in the brass I'll make. Primers, powder, pills. In that order.


Nothing goes bang without primers, every size does multiple calibers

Same with powder

Pills are more caliber specific. I buy that by my supply and demand list

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Originally Posted By CavVet:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.



Provided I had a decent amount of ammo, I wouldn't buy brass, I'll make that.


I would be buying what goes in the brass I'll make. Primers, powder, pills. In that order.


Nothing goes bang without primers, every size does multiple calibers

Same with powder

Pills are more caliber specific. I buy that by my supply and demand list



Every once in a while I'll grab some primed brass since it's about the same price as primers plus no hazmat to fill up another ammo can or 2.

I still have a 5 gallon bucket of .308 brass and a half of one of 556 from back when I was working at a range.

I'm dreading getting enough large rifle primers to load up the 308 lol
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@buck19delta

I almost @ 'tted you in the OP

Your thread from 2019(?) helped me completely ignore the Covid/Biden/Aliens panic of 2020-2023.
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:


@buck19delta

I almost @ 'tted you in the OP

Your thread from 2019(?) helped me completely ignore the Covid/Biden/Aliens panic of 2020-2023.



Link Posted: 12/14/2023 8:36:37 AM EDT
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Picked up another half case of 9mm 124gr Win NATO for $126 delivered.

Totally worth buying bulk 9mm right now guys. I buy one every other week in preparation for 2024 crazy. Will sell off half next year for 50 cpr and basically end up with a bunch of free 9mm. Mark my words.

Worse case, I don't reload 9mm again for a long time and can use that time for rifle ammo or shooting.

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/winchester-usa-9mm-ammo-nato-124-gr-fmj-q4318-p-697.aspx

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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mississippiflush:
Only thing I can  think of I need would be some bulk 308. In for possible deals


I've been considering buying some primed, pulldown LC 7.62x51mm brass. Best price I can find is $350/k though. Thats a tough pill to swallow.



Ouch,

I bought once fired lake city 7.62 off the EE for $60 per 1000 a few years back, bought 7000 pieces in all, same for 5.56.
Link Posted: 12/14/2023 8:58:09 AM EDT
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I’m good.

I get about ten emails a day on ammo. Getting cheaper by the day.
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Alliant is taking a 10% price increase in a couple weeks.

BE86 is one of the most versatile and finest all-around pistol powders on the market.

Grafs looks to be the cheapest with Haz and Shipping now.

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/27126
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Alliant is taking a 10% price increase in a couple weeks.

BE86 is one of the most versatile and finest all-around pistol powders on the market.

Grafs looks to be the cheapest with Haz and Shipping now.

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/27126
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$40 a pound. Yeah, I'll pass on that.

I have loads of Long Shot, Unique, Power Pistol and Autocomp that work just as well (minus the lack of flash suppressant).
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I've been slowly building my .308 stash.  I need to work on .223/5.56 some more.  My 9mm is doing okay but I definitely need more of that.  The only caliber that I feel good about is .22 since I haven't shot any in about 5 years.
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There might be a low point coming in the spring, but this is Clown World and the point of this thread is to dollar cost average so you don't get caught at low inventory right when SHTF and national ammo shipments get outlawed, your state loses its mind and requires BGC for Ammo and Reloading supplies or WW3 starts and all military goods get rationed.
Link Posted: 12/14/2023 9:40:46 AM EDT
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saw a shop after work the other day that marked brass case 9mm down to $11.99 a box (no tax)

puts it at $239 out the door, cheapest its been in a long time and at the cost of reloading components thats cheaper than you could reload it if you bought components at todays price.

I really dont need any at all but might still pick up half a case just because.
Link Posted: 12/14/2023 9:45:03 AM EDT
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Federal HST 9mm 147gr P9HST2 for $499/1000 with Free Shipping.

Don't think I've seen it this low since 01/2020, when it was still $400/1000.

https://www.bereli.com/shooting/ammunition/federal-9mm-147gr-federal-premium-tactical-hst-jhp-p9hst2/
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I’ve got tons of primers, powder, and prepped cases for .223. What I lack is time right now. Good thing I’ve been stacking since the 90’s. Never had to buy during a panic.
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There might be a low point coming in the spring, but this is Clown World and the point of this thread is to dollar cost average so you don't get caught at low inventory right when SHTF and national ammo shipments get outlawed, your state loses its mind and requires BGC for Ammo and Reloading supplies or WW3 starts and all military goods get rationed.
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There might be a low point coming in the spring, but this is Clown World and the point of this thread is to dollar cost average so you don't get caught at low inventory right when SHTF and national ammo shipments get outlawed, your state loses its mind and requires BGC for Ammo and Reloading supplies or WW3 starts and all military goods get rationed.


$0.0065/rd. difference in 10mm loading BE86 vs. Long Shot at current prices.

Don’t let 2/3 of a penny hold you back.
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$0.0065/rd. difference in 10mm loading BE86 vs. Long Shot at current prices.

Don’t let 2/3 of a penny hold you back.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


There might be a low point coming in the spring, but this is Clown World and the point of this thread is to dollar cost average so you don't get caught at low inventory right when SHTF and national ammo shipments get outlawed, your state loses its mind and requires BGC for Ammo and Reloading supplies or WW3 starts and all military goods get rationed.


$0.0065/rd. difference in 10mm loading BE86 vs. Long Shot at current prices.

Don’t let 2/3 of a penny hold you back.


Lol.

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We travel out of town to the gun shops on weekends, and every time we visit Sportsman's Warehouse their ammo display is shrinking...shrinking...shrinking...

During COVID they had reduced the space for ammo to one section of a long shelf unit.  Every time I see 5.56 I buy as much as I can afford.  I have not seen 45 ACP at SW in months.  I had to get some who-knows-how-old Speer Lawman at some out-of-the-way ammo shop that caters to reloaders.  That guy doesn't even sell guns anymore.  

Cabelas seems to have ammo off and on, as does Academy, but it's not like in the days where all three stores were well-stocked every time you walked in.

I'm worried  a year from now we may be looking at COVID era level stockouts.
Link Posted: 12/14/2023 10:06:57 PM EDT
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I guess massive 2A infringement isn't enough for ACB to intervene yet.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Supreme-Court-Declines-to-Halt-New-Illinois-Assault-Weapon-Ban/5-2693163/

Did you feed the monkey today?

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I can’t I’m broke. I appreciate the reminder though.
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I could use some linked up .50
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Midway BE86 @ $36.99/lb. since there was bitching - ----https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2184308109?pid=728959

Hornady Interlock .224" 75 gr. SBR bullets (seconds) @ $0.21/each - ----https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016682940?pid=333863

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Link Posted: 1/14/2024 10:24:44 AM EDT
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Sierra 308, 168 gr. TMKs - $36/100

Damn good deal. I'm having a hard time not buying any.

-----https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/sierra-7768-tipped-matchking-30-caliber-.308-168-gr-tipped-matchking-100-box
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Sierra 308, 168 gr. TMKs - $36/100

Damn good deal. I'm having a hard time not buying any.

-----https://battlehawkarmory.com/product/sierra-7768-tipped-matchking-30-caliber-.308-168-gr-tipped-matchking-100-box
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I jumped on this plus $10 off (WELCOME10) since I signed up for new offers. Thank you for posting!
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I’m stocking up on .30 SC.
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