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Posted: 12/16/2018 12:45:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2018 12:48:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2018 12:57:08 AM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:02:55 AM EDT
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It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, but the implication is millions if not billions of years old. All the scientists have done is confirm what many if not most rabbis have been saying for eons. Even the early church fathers like Irenaeus believed in an old earth. I'm not sure when young earthers snuck into the faith, but it has done irrevocable harm to Christianity as a valid belief system.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:04:40 AM EDT
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Looks like the eat da poopoo guy.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:04:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:05:14 AM EDT
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Who was our resident member who didn't believe in dinosaurs?
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:05:23 AM EDT
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These "scientists " could not even make the cut to cook the books for the man-caused climate change racket?
Pathetic. out of
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:06:30 AM EDT
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Africans have been making Christianity great again by bringing up all the things polite society has conditioned out of respectable American religion.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:08:09 AM EDT
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“World class” at what? Measuring the fucking drool that is coming out of their mouths?
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:10:19 AM EDT
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The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:10:39 AM EDT
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I don't believe a damn thing scientists tell me on either side of the isle.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:12:01 AM EDT
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Third world class.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:15:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, but the implication is millions if not billions of years old. All the scientists have done is confirm what many if not most rabbis have been saying for eons. Even the early church fathers like Irenaeus believed in an old earth. I'm not sure when young earthers snuck into the faith, but it has done irrevocable harm to Christianity as a valid belief system. Please cite scripture where it implies the earth is “millions if not billions” of years old. I’ll be waiting. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:19:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:25:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the most ironic thing I have read today. If YOU had studied scripture you would know that although it doesn't give an exact age of the earth, it most certainly indicates a young earth. That is the ONLY interpretation that conforms to the entire scripture if you believe in the inerrancy of scripture. Please cite scripture where it implies the earth is "millions if not billions" of years old. I'll be waiting. *I suscribe to the 4.5bil idea |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:30:24 AM EDT
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This is the most ironic thing I have read today. If YOU had studied scripture you would know that although it doesn’t give an exact age of the earth, it most certainly indicates a young earth. That is the ONLY interpretation that conforms to the entire scripture if you believe in the inerrancy of scripture. Please cite scripture where it implies the earth is “millions if not billions” of years old. I’ll be waiting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, but the implication is millions if not billions of years old. All the scientists have done is confirm what many if not most rabbis have been saying for eons. Even the early church fathers like Irenaeus believed in an old earth. I'm not sure when young earthers snuck into the faith, but it has done irrevocable harm to Christianity as a valid belief system. Please cite scripture where it implies the earth is “millions if not billions” of years old. I’ll be waiting. But riddle me this, what day was the sun and moon created? Quoted:
Yah, I thought the whole young earth thing came from 7 days plus the this guy begat that guy part. That would make the earth one week plus 30ish years times number of guys plus 2018 years old. *I suscribe to the 4.5bil idea |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:31:17 AM EDT
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It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:31:41 AM EDT
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It all ends in 2028, who cares how old it is.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:34:04 AM EDT
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You know what's really funny?
They're young Earth-scientists. Not young-Earth scientists. There are no young-Earth scientists. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:35:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the most ironic thing I have read today. If YOU had studied scripture you would know that although it doesn’t give an exact age of the earth, it most certainly indicates a young earth. That is the ONLY interpretation that conforms to the entire scripture if you believe in the inerrancy of scripture. Please cite scripture where it implies the earth is “millions if not billions” of years old. I’ll be waiting. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:36:38 AM EDT
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Four distinct techniques have been used to measure the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy.
Averaged together, they give a combined distance estimate of 2.54 million (+/- 0.11) light years. The light from this galaxy, the nearest to our own, has to have been traveling across space for that long for us to be able to see it. I personally believe everything the bible says, but it's obvious by the above observation that the creation days in Genesis were not literal 24-hr days. Each day was a long period of time. If those days in Genesis were 24-hr days, we would only be able to see ~6000 light years out into space. There are many galaxies MUCH further away than Andromeda. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:39:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole “pause” thing in the original Hebrew. But riddle me this, what day was the sun and moon created? Might as well throw your question in as well because it’s highly relevant. They were created on the 4th day. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:39:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, but the implication is millions if not billions of years old. All the scientists have done is confirm what many if not most rabbis have been saying for eons. Even the early church fathers like Irenaeus believed in an old earth. I'm not sure when young earthers snuck into the faith, but it has done irrevocable harm to Christianity as a valid belief system. https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/ |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:40:34 AM EDT
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Four distinct techniques have been used to measure the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy. Averaged together, they give a combined distance estimate of 2.54 million (+/- 0.11) light years. The light from this galaxy, the nearest to our own, has to have been traveling across space for that long for us to be able to see it. I personally believe everything the bible says, but it's obvious by the above observation that the creation days in Genesis were not literal 24-hr days. Each day was a long period of time. If those days in Genesis were 24-hr days, we would only be able to see ~6000 light years out into space. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:41:09 AM EDT
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It is IMPOSSIBLE for an old earth to conform to the entirety of the scripture. They were created on the 4th day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The whole “pause” thing in the original Hebrew. But riddle me this, what day was the sun and moon created? Might as well throw your question in as well because it’s highly relevant. They were created on the 4th day. ETA: Not necessarily on the first statement. The problem arises when people assume, without looking any further. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:41:16 AM EDT
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I actually became curious to see how a young Earth would affect policy/climate decisions and stumbled upon their facebook page, still short on any detailed actions items
https://www.facebook.com/yesscommunity0/ |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:41:42 AM EDT
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Look up the gap theory. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:43:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, so how’s a day defined? ETA: Not necessarily on the first statement. The problem arises when people assume, without looking any further. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:47:50 AM EDT
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Four distinct techniques have been used to measure the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy. Averaged together, they give a combined distance estimate of 2.54 million (+/- 0.11) light years. The light from this galaxy, the nearest to our own, has to have been traveling across space for that long for us to be able to see it. I personally believe everything the bible says, but it's obvious by the above observation that the creation days in Genesis were not literal 24-hr days. Each day was a long period of time. If those days in Genesis were 24-hr days, we would only be able to see ~6000 light years out into space. There are many galaxies MUCH further away than Andromeda. You believe in an all powerful being that can speak everything into existence. But he is powerless to have the light from those stars he just created reach the earth faster than naturally possible? When he created the sun on the 4th day you are saying he had to twiddle his thumbs for the 8 or 9 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth? If He exists and is powerful enough to make the stars in the sky I think he could also control the light emminating from them wouldn’t you? |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:49:08 AM EDT
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When you hear thunder, that's the sound of God facepalming because he heard some dumb shit from his believers like "the earth is only a few thousand years old."
If I created everything, including a race of beings in my image that were supposed to rule over it all, and said "this is all for you, now use the sense of wonder and curiosity I gave you to study all this cool shit and discover as much as you can" but they went around unquestionably believing retarded shit because some other retards told them that's what they're supposed to believe, I'd be very disappointed. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:49:45 AM EDT
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No need to look it up, I know all about it. And I know numerous other scriptures would have to be completely wrong for the gap theory to be true. If you believe in the inerrancy of scripture there is no way to come to any other conclusion other than scripture teaches a young earth. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Look up the gap theory. FWIW, I’m not bagging on anyone, I’ve never seen this question even asked, much less answered in a satisfactory manor. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:50:37 AM EDT
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But but....it’s flat... ;)
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:50:41 AM EDT
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Proof radiocarbon dating works to about 50,000 years, no chance that would work with 400 Ma rocks the context in which the artifact is not explained, could have been in a pond overlying the limestone bedrock. Possibly encased in travertine from a spring but that is a hypothesis. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:51:55 AM EDT
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It’s a day. 24 hours. There is zero indication given in scripture that the verses in genesis refer to anything other than a literal 24 hours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ok, so how’s a day defined? ETA: Not necessarily on the first statement. The problem arises when people assume, without looking any further. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:56:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except it does, right there in plain English. A “day”, to us, is defined as 24 hours. Why? Because that’s the time it takes us to make one trip around the sun, and object that wasn’t even created until the fourth day, when, according to scripture, 3 “days” had already came and went. This doesn't matter anyway, adaptation/selection destroys the entire narrative because suffering and death are essential to the existence of life. No amount of sophistry can save it. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:56:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except it does, right there in plain English. A “day”, to us, is defined as 24 hours. Why? Because that’s the time it takes us to make one trip around the sun, and object that wasn’t even created until the fourth day, when, according to scripture, 3 “days” had already came and went. One trip around the sun is a year by the way. A revolution of the earth is a day. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:57:20 AM EDT
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When you hear thunder, that's the sound of God facepalming because he heard some dumb shit from his believers like "the earth is only a few thousand years old." If I created everything, including a race of beings in my image that were supposed to rule over it all, and said "this is all for you, now use the sense of wonder and curiosity I gave you to study all this cool shit and discover as much as you can" but they went around unquestionably believing retarded shit because some other retards told them that's what they're supposed to believe, I'd be very disappointed. Even the New Testament tells us that we should study nature. Like I said before, the problem arises when folks look at scripture through a myopic lens with preconceived notions, and then try to make scripture fit inside those parameters, instead of seeing things through scripture and adjusting our understanding. TLDR: Some attempt to force scripture into our understanding, instead of understanding our world through scripture. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:58:57 AM EDT
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Four distinct techniques have been used to measure the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy. Averaged together, they give a combined distance estimate of 2.54 million (+/- 0.11) light years. The light from this galaxy, the nearest to our own, has to have been traveling across space for that long for us to be able to see it. I personally believe everything the bible says, but it's obvious by the above observation that the creation days in Genesis were not literal 24-hr days. Each day was a long period of time. If those days in Genesis were 24-hr days, we would only be able to see ~6000 light years out into space. There are many galaxies MUCH further away than Andromeda. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:59:09 AM EDT
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It's a real shame so few Christians bother to actually study scripture. The Bible doesn't say how old the earth is, but the implication is millions if not billions of years old. All the scientists have done is confirm what many if not most rabbis have been saying for eons. Even the early church fathers like Irenaeus believed in an old earth. I'm not sure when young earthers snuck into the faith, but it has done irrevocable harm to Christianity as a valid belief system. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 1:59:27 AM EDT
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Because the people who wrote it didn't know how that worked either. This doesn't matter anyway, adaptation/selection destroys the entire narrative because suffering and death are essential to the existence of life. No amount of sophistry can save it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Except it does, right there in plain English. A “day”, to us, is defined as 24 hours. Why? Because that’s the time it takes us to make one trip around the sun, and object that wasn’t even created until the fourth day, when, according to scripture, 3 “days” had already came and went. This doesn't matter anyway, adaptation/selection destroys the entire narrative because suffering and death are essential to the existence of life. No amount of sophistry can save it. 
Nor could a God who created it all have the foresight to know one day we would. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:00:15 AM EDT
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Good, let researchers research whatever they want.
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:01:20 AM EDT
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But but....it’s flat... ;) |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:01:46 AM EDT
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Another point...
Has god rested from his creative works for one 24-hr day? No. The last thing he made was Eve. We have been in that "day" of creative rest now for thousands of years. Anyone who reads the bible should be able to understand this. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:02:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, they didn’t even know what a day was.
Nor could a God who created it all have the foresight to know one day we would. The being who spoke the universe into existence would have written a better book. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:04:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quality post. Even the New Testament tells us that we should study nature. Like I said before, the problem arises when folks look at scripture through a myopic lens with preconceived notions, and then try to make scripture fit inside those parameters, instead of seeing things through scripture and adjusting our understanding. TLDR: Some attempt to force scripture into our understanding, instead of understanding our world through scripture. You have every right to do so, but my question to you is why do you believe ANYTHING the bible says if you don’t believe in all of it?? |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:05:16 AM EDT
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Except it does, right there in plain English. A "day", to us, is defined as 24 hours. Why? Because that's the time it takes us to make one trip around the sun, and object that wasn't even created until the fourth day, when, according to scripture, 3 "days" had already came and went. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Ok, so how's a day defined? ETA: Not necessarily on the first statement. The problem arises when people assume, without looking any further. The core message is all that's important. When you try to apply the stories literally, they don't hold up to any logical scrutiny. Folks who accept that the Bible is mostly allegorical don't have to waste so much time defending the glaringly obvious inconsistencies contained within. |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:05:41 AM EDT
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Another point... Has god rested from his creative works for one 24-hr day? No. The last thing he made was Eve. We have been in that "day" of creative rest now for thousands of years. Anyone who reads the bible should be able to understand this. How would the people writing the text know that a “day” would mean thousands of years, and why would they choose to describe it that way? |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:06:47 AM EDT
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Wannabe Priesthood
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:08:11 AM EDT
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In other words, you believe in evolutionary science taught by modern science, and you then look at scripture and twist it to fit your beliefs instead of believing in the literal words of scripture and making your beliefs of the natural world fit in with that. You have every right to do so, but my question to you is why do you believe ANYTHING the bible says if you don't believe in all of it?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Quality post. Even the New Testament tells us that we should study nature. Like I said before, the problem arises when folks look at scripture through a myopic lens with preconceived notions, and then try to make scripture fit inside those parameters, instead of seeing things through scripture and adjusting our understanding. TLDR: Some attempt to force scripture into our understanding, instead of understanding our world through scripture. You have every right to do so, but my question to you is why do you believe ANYTHING the bible says if you don't believe in all of it?? |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 2:11:02 AM EDT
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Another point... Has god rested from his creative works for one 24-hr day? No. The last thing he made was Eve. We have been in that "day" of creative rest now for thousands of years. Anyone who reads the bible should be able to understand this. The scripture can’t be more clear that you are wrong however. ALL things are created by God. Col 1:16 He has made every human being that has ever existed. Eve was not the last. |
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