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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:46:46 PM EDT
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Because Mel Gibson REALLY Hates the British.
He Hates them even more than he hates the Jews. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:48:05 PM EDT
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It makes them sound all menacing and also super stupid and kind of cuntish.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:49:44 PM EDT
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The British produce a huge stable of professional actors for the entertainment industry. The really good ones surprise you because you learn of them first in American productions when they're acting with perfect American accents and you are gobsmacked to learn they're limeys.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:52:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:52:34 PM EDT
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Never understood this.
Stuff written in the 18th century, sure. Now? Probably our best allies. French accent for bad guys would be fun but how “bad” could they be? Unless they were reinforcements I guess. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:53:31 PM EDT
[#6]
To be fair you Yanks don’t want to hear an American accent as the bad guy.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:53:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The British produce a huge stable of professional actors for the entertainment industry. The really good ones surprise you because you learn of them first in American productions when they're acting with perfect American accents and you are gobsmacked to learn they're limeys. This is true. Good observation. Sometimes Australian. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:54:45 PM EDT
[#8]
The accent gives credibility. Better villains, better infomercial salesmen, better debaters, whatever.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:55:05 PM EDT
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Why do ancient Romans always have english accents? Why don't they sound like they're from Jersey?
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:55:31 PM EDT
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At one time, there were British colonies all over the world and I'm sure that some of them picked up the accent.
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:56:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Have you never seen this commercial?
 British Villains - 2015 One Show Automobile Advertising of the Year Finalist |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:57:38 PM EDT
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British actors are cheap. Sorry, did I ruin the mystery?!
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:58:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Do
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair you Yanks don’t want to hear an American accent as the bad guy. Do you even Tony Soprano? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:00:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do Do you even Tony Soprano? No, haven’t watched that yet. But I’ve been meaning too. Next show hole I’ll give it a go. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:02:02 AM EDT
[#15]
Because it makes them sound pompous and faggy.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:03:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do Do you even Tony Soprano? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:04:11 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why though? Fake accents, unless perfectly mastered, kill a good film. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:08:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never understood this. Stuff written in the 18th century, sure. Now? Probably our best allies. French accent for bad guys would be fun but how “bad” could they be? Unless they were reinforcements I guess.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:08:46 AM EDT
[#19]
Brits have some explaining to do...
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:10:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:10:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do ancient Romans always have english accents? Why don't they sound like they're from Jersey? It’s Written! That’s Why!  Life of Brian - Stoning (HD) Complete scene |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:21:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The British produce a huge stable of professional actors for the entertainment industry. The really good ones surprise you because you learn of them first in American productions when they're acting with perfect American accents and you are gobsmacked to learn they're limeys. Yep. Classic British theater training produces amazing actors. The "villain" aspect comes from two directions. Said theater training helps for well punctuated over the the top moments (Like a lot of Christopher Lees career) it also created a still deadpan villain that is not a flat performance. Like Peter Cushing as Grand Moff Tarkin. Watch the way Patrick Stewart delivers many of his lines. It is a rather smooth but deadpan delivery. Rather stiff even. Yet he commands the screen. The tension in his face, neck and body, his gaze, the intention he delivers with. It is masterful. It is confident. It becomes arrogant if it were a villain. Which, if you are looking for that, there it is. American training, which is evolved from the Russian Moscow Theater (Stanislavski) around a century ago, produces a different style of acting. Think about how James Dean or Al Pachino act (Stanislavski style trained actors) compared to Alec Guinness or Patrick Stewart. The British classical theater training has mostly resisted Stanislavski influences. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:32:38 AM EDT
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NPR loves to use British accents to dump their beliefs on American listeners, they think it just reeks of sophistication or something.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:32:55 AM EDT
[#24]
How about that?!
The Englishman just showed up in the last Mummy movie, with Brendan Fraser and Jet Li, and l see this thread. 
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:37:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because there's a (metric) fuck ton of British actors, and it's better to hear their accent than a brit doing a fake russian/italian/german accent. Fake accents, unless perfectly mastered, kill a good film. Just look at that God-aweful southern accent Nic Cage tried in Con-Air. Decent enough movie but l can never watch it again because of that horrible southern accent. 
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:12:22 AM EDT
[#26]
What, you want a Scottish accent?
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Posted: 10/31/2020 1:13:09 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryYou know the story behind that shot?
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Posted: 10/31/2020 2:06:11 AM EDT
[#28]
British actors doing American accents is even funnier.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 2:45:04 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do ancient Romans always have english accents? Why don't they sound like they're from Jersey? |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 2:59:08 AM EDT
[#30]
Because a bad guy with a French accent could never be taken seriously.
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Posted: 10/31/2020 6:47:52 AM EDT
[#31]
Us British are real bad ass
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Posted: 10/31/2020 6:50:51 AM EDT
[#32]
Because the Cold War is over and making the Russians the bad guys is an overplayed trope.
I want more black representation in movie bad guys
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Posted: 10/31/2020 6:51:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: British actors doing American accents is even funnier. The few exceptions when using a hard R is acceptable
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Posted: 10/31/2020 6:55:23 AM EDT
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Because no one would be afraid of a villain with a trailer park accent (Deliverance might be the exception).
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Posted: 10/31/2020 8:42:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The British produce a huge stable of professional actors for the entertainment industry. The really good ones surprise you because you learn of them first in American productions when they're acting with perfect American accents and you are gobsmacked to learn they're limeys. It was explained to me once that the British studios also select their movie actors primarily for their proven acting ability after they've gotten experience in plays, whereas the American studios select movie actors primarily based on how photogenic they are. Americans don't give a shit if the good guy is played by a great actor, but they really eat it up if the bad guy is played by a great actor. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 8:45:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: British actors doing American accents is even funnier. I liked Andrew LIncoln as Rick Grimes in TWD, but he couldn't pronounce "Carl" for shit  "Listen, Corr-al..." |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 8:50:16 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because no one would be afraid of a villain with a trailer park accent (Deliverance might be the exception). This. Americans now associate RP accent with snooty social class. Revolutionary War? Left wing writers? Who knows. But Spartacus used UK actors for Romans, Brooklyn guys for slaves. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 8:50:49 AM EDT
[#38]
It’s quite simple
Can’t have black bad guys Can’t have muslim bad guys Can’t have Mexican bad guys White males are the bad guys now, but you don’t want American bad guys so guess what |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 12:23:49 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The accent gives credibility. Better villains, better infomercial salesmen, better debaters, whatever. I think youre on to something. A few years ago, a lot of commercials on tv/ radio in the SE US had British accents, especially car commercials. Annoying as hell. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 11:40:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was explained to me once that the British studios also select their movie actors primarily for their proven acting ability after they've gotten experience in plays, whereas the American studios select movie actors primarily based on how photogenic they are. Americans don't give a shit if the good guy is played by a great actor, but they really eat it up if the bad guy is played by a great actor. Again, in general, British and American actors are also trained differently. |
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Posted: 10/31/2020 11:59:03 PM EDT
[#41]
You do realize that British produced TV shows and Movies often use actors with an American accent for the bad guys.
Amazing how that works. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:13:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do ancient Romans always have english accents? Why don't they sound like they're from Jersey? I don't think that most people would like the way that the Roman's actually sounded. They pronounced Vs like Ws so vene, vidi, vici is spoken in Latin as When-eh, Wee dee, Wee Kee.  What Latin Sounded Like - and how we know  Princess Bride Wedding |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:12:46 AM EDT
[#43]
Hans Gruber wasn't British.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize that British produced TV shows and Movies often use actors with an American accent for the bad guys. Amazing how that works. after what we did for them in WWII?? @Agent_Funky explain yourself!!! |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:26:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: after what we did for them in WWII?? @Agent_Funky explain yourself!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You do realize that British produced TV shows and Movies often use actors with an American accent for the bad guys. Amazing how that works. after what we did for them in WWII?? @Agent_Funky explain yourself!!! I'm not sure I agree with what KA3B says. Most of our "baddies" are either cockney wide boys, or are continental European or some other form of Johnny Foreigner. Can't think of many instances where Americans are portrayed as the bad guys. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:27:21 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure I agree with what KA3B says. Most of our "baddies" are either cockney wide boys, or are continental European or some other form of Johnny Foreigner. Can't think of many instances where Americans are portrayed as the bad guys. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You do realize that British produced TV shows and Movies often use actors with an American accent for the bad guys. Amazing how that works. after what we did for them in WWII?? @Agent_Funky explain yourself!!! I'm not sure I agree with what KA3B says. Most of our "baddies" are either cockney wide boys, or are continental European or some other form of Johnny Foreigner. Can't think of many instances where Americans are portrayed as the bad guys. well, I can think of one. something about overpaid, oversexed, and over here...
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:38:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well, I can think of one. something about overpaid, oversexed, and over here... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You do realize that British produced TV shows and Movies often use actors with an American accent for the bad guys. Amazing how that works. after what we did for them in WWII?? @Agent_Funky explain yourself!!! I'm not sure I agree with what KA3B says. Most of our "baddies" are either cockney wide boys, or are continental European or some other form of Johnny Foreigner. Can't think of many instances where Americans are portrayed as the bad guys. well, I can think of one. something about overpaid, oversexed, and over here... That's just banter. We will always mercilessly take the piss out of our American cousins. It's part of our "special relationship" Can't honestly think of a UK TV show where the villain is American, though. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 9:40:59 AM EDT
[#48]
Red coats. They're coming to get you.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:03:43 AM EDT
[#49]
red coats every where.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 10:25:39 AM EDT
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It is more of a transatlantic dialect rather than standard British
I would disagree with the idea that British actors are trained differently. That was the case with the RSC crew (Stewart, Holm, Dench...) because they were classically trained from early on. More modern British actors have a much stronger Stanislavsky based (Meisner or Strasberg) training. However, there is still an emphasis on language and speech which is why so many British and Australian actors are more flexible with their ability to play various nationalities. American trained actors have less time and experience with dialect work due to fewer classical theatre training. That's my perspective, based on my classical training here in the US and England (RSC). |
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