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When I got our new Gen 5 G19, I literally left the range with 3 empty mags and enough for required duty carry. Not a single round more.

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Been listening to Mike Glover on IG a lot.

Look him up.

The team sports aspects of politics, on both sides, is bad for the country. Both sides.

He's been nailing it lately.

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You know you exaggerate. We all knew Trump was not a conservative but a populist. There was no way a populist would give conservatives everything we wanted. In the primary I voted for Cruz. many did, just not enough. Despite his contrarian reputation for standing against the RINOs many still regarded him an insider. They wanted an outsider. Many on GD expressed that attitude. They even expressed the knowledge Trump would not agree with them on every issue but preferred an outsider despite the warts. We all knew Trump has that typical NYC chip on the shoulder abrasive attitude. They got their way. Now come the General election there were only 2 realistic choices. To hell with the 3rd party choices, none of them were serious candidates. They were just attention whores. That left Trump and Hillary. Did you want JBT Hillary or abrasive, Populist Trump" The condescending criminal control freak Hillary was out of the question. I still have my Deplorable T-shirt to remind everyone just what she thought of "we the people". (The Democrat Party hasn't changed except for the worse since.) That left Trump, warts and all. We all said back then if we got a conservative Supreme Court out of it, we would be satisfied. Have you forgotten?  Many, many here posted that very sentiment and you know it.

Your "god-emperor" rhetoric is over the top for sure and cheap rhetoric at that. If we were so dissatisfied why didn't someone run against Trump in the primary? Because no one wanted the job? Because no one wanted to stick their ass out to do battle with Pelosi and the other Marxist shit birds? Maybe it was because being a bunch of RINOs they were willing to sell out Trump because they were part of the swamp? Where were your so called god-worshipers in the 2018 election when instead of wanting Trump to get things done we wanted, we let the Democrats win the House. That guaranteed Trump never got another major thing done. You going to blame his "god-worshipers" for that too?

Admit it, there are a shit ton of RINOS who routinely sell us out, act like speakeasies, and stab us in the back. Right now they are willing to sell out freedom to save their own asses. They are not willing to stand tall and oppose the vilification of their constituents who just want honest elections and otherwise let the chips fall where they may. The Democrats and even some RINOs have opposed the right to free, transparent and lawful elections at every turn. If they believed in transparency, lawful elections why did they refuse to allow access to prove they were clean? That is not being on the side of freedom.

If you are just pointing out the obvious then these facts should have been left out.

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Populism is the idea that society is separated into two groups at odds with one another - "the pure people" and "the corrupt elite".

I guess by that definition - I'm a populist too.

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He did win the election.

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Been listening to Mike Glover on IG a lot.

Look him up.

The team sports aspects of politics, on both sides, is bad for the country. Both sides.

He's been nailing it lately.

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Probably the ongoing & relentless 5-year psyop campaign

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I'll give you my perspective:

• I voted for Trump both times - gladly
• Tump is better than Hillary or Biden, no question
• I defended Trump a lot against liberal screeching for 4 years
• It was becoming increasingly difficult to do so in light of his shortcomings.
• There comes a point when you must acknowledge that even in light of many accomplishments that the damage he's causing is substantial.
• What happened after the election was a last straw and a hard reckoning is needed

I feel a tremendous sense of anger and fear now that not only Biden is in office, but the Dems have the Senate too. And I do blame Trump for a lot of that because if he had merely acted correctly in a few instances, we wouldn't be looking at sleepy Joe as the next President. All he had to do was let the medical folks run Covid and step back, but no - he had to let his ego get in the way of things. That cost him a TON of votes, even if some people don't want to admit that. I know people personally who are more conservative than liberal, who had voted for him in 2016, but saw his failure on Covid as a complete deal breaker.

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Ted Cruz is absolutely far more conservative than Donald Trump ever was.

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But it wasn't. If there was ANY evidence of this whatsoever, they would have prevailed in at least 1 of the 60+ losing cases.

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Lol...perceived "safe" alternative

Yeah, you've been duped by the media big time.

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I'll give you my perspective:

• I voted for Trump both times - gladly
• Tump is better than Hillary or Biden, no question
• I defended Trump a lot against liberal screeching for 4 years
• It was becoming increasingly difficult to do so in light of his shortcomings.
• There comes a point when you must acknowledge that even in light of many accomplishments that the damage he's causing is substantial.
• What happened after the election was a last straw and a hard reckoning is needed

I feel a tremendous sense of anger and fear now that not only Biden is in office, but the Dems have the Senate too. And I do blame Trump for a lot of that because if he had merely acted correctly in a few instances, we wouldn't be looking at sleepy Joe as the next President. All he had to do was let the medical folks run Covid and step back, but no - he had to let his ego get in the way of things. That cost him a TON of votes, even if some people don't want to admit that. I know people personally who are more conservative than liberal, who had voted for him in 2016, but saw his failure on Covid as a complete deal breaker.

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He didn't fail on covid.  What exactly do you (and the entire left) think he should have done?  He invoked the DPA. He had Fauci and Birx and the task force.  He started OWS.  He shut down flights from China when people were calling him racist for doing so.

What did he do wrong, that every other country didn't also do?  More lock downs? Masks?  None of that made a scrap of difference. The only thing he offered was some hope and perspective, that we shouldn't let it be a big deal and dominate our lives.  I don't see that as a failure.

I'll blame him for a lot of other things but his performance on covid was as good as anyone else IMHO.

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When reaching the end of a book or movie or presidency it is natural to look back and reconsider. This retrospective is breaking people away from the Trump cult and into the realization that NeverTrump was right the entire time. Trump is a socialist scumbag who badly damaged the country, was worse than the GOPe, and in 2016 ruined our chances at ever having a conservative/Constitutional president within our lifetimes.

In 2016 I warned that Trump would be Hoover and whoever followed would be FDR. A lot of the "New Deal" was socialist programs started by Hoover and then expanded exponentially by FDR -- a practical demonstration of the stage "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" and Trump set a whole lot of bad precedents

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I voted for Cruz during the primary. I held my nose for Trump.

Even before he was inaugurated, he turned his back on TWO major campaign promises. Holding Hillary accountable and DACA.

His "wins" were hardly wins. USMCA (NAFTA V2.0 with a MAGA hat on it), the wall (which guys like me here TRULY appreciate his effort on) he could have had Mexico pay for it by increasing their BCC fee's and their I94 fee's. We only charge someone $6.00 or $56.00 for 3-5 years to come into the US to visit or take a job away from an American. Think about that.

Additionally, he hired some of the biggest losers the tax payers could pay for. Right out the chute, Ammarosa, as ONE of many examples..all the way to the end with people like Giuliani and Barr. Who ever would have thought that Ben Carson would be one of the only people not to be a total shitbag that Trump hired/ nominated? Instead of looking to scale back and reform the Dept of Education, he hired Devos..

His comments from shooting people on 5th avenue all the way to the some of the stupid shit he said about COVID was enough to keep us shaking our heads. His constant whining about the media was just pathetic. Putting people in their place is one thing, but his constant whining and acting like a victim got old really quick.

He banned bump stocks.

His love affair with Indian workers? America first? Isn't that what he said?

We still have 5,000+ troops in Afghanistan and we spent close to $300,000,000,000.00 in Afghanistan since he took office. What is our continued ROI on that again? -10,000,000%. I expected more out of him there. We still have troops in Iraq, too. We all forget about those promises. Trillions we have spent, he campaigned on ending that spending. He keeps it going.

He didn't fight back AT ALL over the BS the Dems put him through. Calling things a "hoax" non stop wasn't enough and acting like a victim (again). He had the power to declassify the truth, order the release of documents for all sort of things and still did not. Trump campaigned on ending the swamp, and there he is working with it and protecting it. Rallies were more important that perp walks. Everyone from Hillary to Pelosi to Schumer were NON STOP insulting him, threatening him, etc..and Trump wanted to be a nice guy and still work with them.

The GOP proper was no help in all of this. I get that. McConnell gave him a few judges that turned out to be total shitbags (again) and that is all.


I applaud him for the following:

Jobs in the US and our Growth pre-covid.
The growth of the market.
Killing the Iranian General.
Getting us out of Iran nuke deal.
Attempting to fix the VA.
Tax break(s).


Everyone makes excuses for the man, here you all blame everyone else, just like him..The swamp, the media, etc. That got tiring, too. The buck never stopped with Trump.

I voted for him, again, because obviously there was no other option. Not that I wanted to, there was simply no other option. I agree 100% that the election was stolen from him. I also agree that the GOP was complicit in doing so in GA and PA.

tl:dr Bring your bullshit and insults. Used to it. I was insulted for years for calling the NRA bullshit, I was insulted for not getting on the Glenn Beck fan wagon and I was insulted for thinking Nikki Haley was a scumbag that couldn't be trusted. I was also insulted for thinking someones parents failed when a 17 year old son was on the scene of a riot with an AR15. That one simple comment you all jumped my shit with stupid questions like "YOU THINK KYLE IS A MURDERER THEN?!".

Trump isn't and wasn't the greatest. All men fail. We all made fun of the "Hope" poster and Pajama Boy, etc under Obama. Yet here were were drooling over Ivankas fake tits hoping she will be president, wearing MAGA hats, waiving MAGA flags, etc...

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For me I don’t understand his moves for fighting the swamp especially once it appeared he’d lost the election.  If you were really poised and fighting the swamp with everything you had why would you not:

Declassify everything to expose the plans and acts to shine light on it?

Present the evidence and make the case for election fraud to the American people not just the courts?  

When trying to relay critical information why not seize the MSM airwaves via the EBS?

Why so many known swamp creatures in his cabinet?

Knowing the DOJ spied on him illegally, why has he not purged it?  Same could be said for many out of control departments.

I could go on, but the above makes me wonder:

What were all the terms from his sweetheart casino bankruptcy deal greased through by a Rothschild?  Has he been an asset for them this whole time?

Has he sold out to the swamp by not declassifying everything in exchange for him and his family to be able to walk away?

Seeing the whole story at the end of his term really highlights questions I have about him.

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Gosh, maybe I am one of the idiots around here.

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If he could do what he did to bump stocks, he could have done something to at least have poll watchers monitor the entirety of the vote counting. Ffs. He wanted exactly this, and is part of the betrayal of the American people. I don't think he was counting on the shame of 2 impeachments, but the rest he accepted as part of whatever deal he had with the puppet masters.

Some of us have warned about Trump for almost 5 years now. We knew a lifetime democrat doesn't just flip to Republican values one day in his golden years. Nothing sudden about this. Nothing glorious about being right about this.

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I voted for Cruz during the primary. I held my nose for Trump.

Even before he was inaugurated, he turned his back on TWO major campaign promises. Holding Hillary accountable and DACA.

His "wins" were hardly wins. USMCA (NAFTA V2.0 with a MAGA hat on it), the wall (which guys like me here TRULY appreciate his effort on) he could have had Mexico pay for it by increasing their BCC fee's and their I94 fee's. We only charge someone $6.00 or $56.00 for 3-5 years to come into the US to visit or take a job away from an American. Think about that.

Additionally, he hired some of the biggest losers the tax payers could pay for. Right out the chute, Ammarosa, as ONE of many examples..all the way to the end with people like Giuliani and Barr. Who ever would have thought that Ben Carson would be one of the only people not to be a total shitbag that Trump hired/ nominated? Instead of looking to scale back and reform the Dept of Education, he hired Devos..

His comments from shooting people on 5th avenue all the way to the some of the stupid shit he said about COVID was enough to keep us shaking our heads. His constant whining about the media was just pathetic. Putting people in their place is one thing, but his constant whining and acting like a victim got old really quick.

He banned bump stocks.

His love affair with Indian workers? America first? Isn't that what he said?

We still have 5,000+ troops in Afghanistan and we spent close to $300,000,000,000.00 in Afghanistan since he took office. What is our continued ROI on that again? -10,000,000%. I expected more out of him there. We still have troops in Iraq, too. We all forget about those promises. Trillions we have spent, he campaigned on ending that spending. He keeps it going.

He didn't fight back AT ALL over the BS the Dems put him through. Calling things a "hoax" non stop wasn't enough and acting like a victim (again). He had the power to declassify the truth, order the release of documents for all sort of things and still did not. Trump campaigned on ending the swamp, and there he is working with it and protecting it. Rallies were more important that perp walks. Everyone from Hillary to Pelosi to Schumer were NON STOP insulting him, threatening him, etc..and Trump wanted to be a nice guy and still work with them.

The GOP proper was no help in all of this. I get that. McConnell gave him a few judges that turned out to be total shitbags (again) and that is all.


I applaud him for the following:

Jobs in the US and our Growth pre-covid.
The growth of the market.
Killing the Iranian General.
Getting us out of Iran nuke deal.
Attempting to fix the VA.
Tax break(s).


Everyone makes excuses for the man, here you all blame everyone else, just like him..The swamp, the media, etc. That got tiring, too. The buck never stopped with Trump.

I voted for him, again, because obviously there was no other option. Not that I wanted to, there was simply no other option. I agree 100% that the election was stolen from him. I also agree that the GOP was complicit in doing so in GA and PA.

tl:dr Bring your bullshit and insults. Used to it. I was insulted for years for calling the NRA bullshit, I was insulted for not getting on the Glenn Beck fan wagon and I was insulted for thinking Nikki Haley was a scumbag that couldn't be trusted. I was also insulted for thinking someones parents failed when a 17 year old son was on the scene of a riot with an AR15. That one simple comment you all jumped my shit with stupid questions like "YOU THINK KYLE IS A MURDERER THEN?!".

Trump isn't and wasn't the greatest. All men fail. We all made fun of the "Hope" poster and Pajama Boy, etc under Obama. Yet here were were drooling over Ivankas fake tits hoping she will be president, wearing MAGA hats, waiving MAGA flags, etc...

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Keep on searching for that leader that has your principles and in the meantime us "cultist" are going to fight for your freedom without using your dumbass principles that literally puts us all at a disadvantage fighting unprincipled communist scumbag democrats.

You helped us lose the presidency and the Senate with your toothless, worthless principles. Ponder that while you shit on the man that fought for your freedom and has lost his own freedom. Your principles are a fucking disaster. They have wrecked our fucking country and given it to the most vile, disgusting human beings on the planet.

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I mean, there it is.

Trump cultists vs. dumbass conservatives.  (Your words)

I have a feeling you won't be around this site much longer.

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Keep on searching for that leader that has your principles and in the meantime us "cultist" are going to fight for your freedom without using your dumbass principles that literally puts us all at a disadvantage fighting unprincipled communist scumbag democrats.

You helped us lose the presidency and the Senate with your toothless, worthless principles. Ponder that while you shit on the man that fought for your freedom and has lost his own freedom. Your principles are a fucking disaster. They have wrecked our fucking country and given it to the most vile, disgusting human beings on the planet.

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and you're likely to be on this site for a long time

continuing to spin anti Trump stuff ad infinitum

like you do, now