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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:15:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: hated him from the beginnning.... Unwatchable. Saw him recently as a grown man. He appears to have somehow turned out to be a normal, masculine man. Because, Wesley Crusher. . . . ? Wow. 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:16:56 AM EDT
[#2]
I didn’t watch enough Star Trek to have any thoughtful insight, but I hope this helps...
 Big Pun - Still Not a Player (Official Video) ft. Joe |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:17:56 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd say that title goes to Neelix. Neelix is the kind of friend you need. Loyal to a fault, will give you the shirt off his back, pays attention to special occasions and tries to make you feel welcome. Almost always positive. Wants to help you solve your problems. Other than being a creeper with Kes... he was a good dude. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:23:43 AM EDT
[#4]
The entire cast is weird except Picard and maybe Dr Crusher.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:27:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ronny Cox put an end to that shit with a quickness.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIchkDoFvo0Also...for such a squared away crew...they all acted pretty pissy when 'daddy' got reassigned.     
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:30:41 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong. Troi is absolutely useless. I'll give you a summary of every interaction between Picard and Troi: "What do you sense counselor?" "I'm not sure Captain, they're very closed off." (as the ships's rocked rocked by phaser fire, red alert's blaring) "I sense.......hostility". Ok, but Troi's got 2 things going for her Wesley doesn't. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 4:15:12 AM EDT
[#7]
 Worf gets DENIED again and again on Star Trek TNG.  Star Trek TNG - Will Riker Destroys the Enterprise-D |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 4:51:01 AM EDT
[#8]
I actually didn't mind Wesley. His character added a lot to certain episodes.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 4:55:21 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to "understand" the era of TNG. The only "Super Powers" in the Beta and Alpha Quadrants[known space] are the Federation and The Klingon Empire who are allies. The Romulans are in total isolation and everyone else [as perceived by the Federation] are podunck back waters that are no matches for the awesome power of a Galaxy Class starship which is built to be diplomatic resort hotels for the purpose of gaining new Federation Members, settling disputes between backwater [inferior] worlds, and to carry out scientific research. The USS Enterprise is a Camp David of the Federation. It's not the embassy in Benghazi. However it is armed with enough fire power and shielding to deal with uppity hicks/rednecks or what ever slang term the Federation uses for them.  Think of it this way. "You" might in CCW mode to fend off random thugs,"You" may take "your" family out to dinner or the movies(while "you" CCW) , but "your" EDC isn't geared towards dealing with a 1st world military , because that's not really a threat, right now. Edit: There's also the whole Commie housing issue. Earth Is full. So they need to put those people some where. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 5:03:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The only thing she was good for is the low cut uniform, which is a whole different issue that she gets to wear whatever the hell she wants despite being part of the ships command crew. She's also probably faking even being a half empath as noted by the fact that she plays in all the after hour poker games. Even a half empath should be able to clean up at a game where the main skill is guessing whether or not your opponent is telling a lie. Not to mention how many species they encountered that had plot armor which wouldn't allow her to sense their emotions. She can basically read Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons which is a nearly worthless skill because those races are written to basically have a single emotion. She serves no purpose being on the ship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wrong. Troi is absolutely useless. I'll give you a summary of every interaction between Picard and Troi: "What do you sense counselor?" "I'm not sure Captain, they're very closed off." This. The only thing she was good for is the low cut uniform, which is a whole different issue that she gets to wear whatever the hell she wants despite being part of the ships command crew. She's also probably faking even being a half empath as noted by the fact that she plays in all the after hour poker games. Even a half empath should be able to clean up at a game where the main skill is guessing whether or not your opponent is telling a lie. Not to mention how many species they encountered that had plot armor which wouldn't allow her to sense their emotions. She can basically read Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons which is a nearly worthless skill because those races are written to basically have a single emotion. She serves no purpose being on the ship. Having a full-blooded Betazoid assigned to each ship would seem to be a very powerful tool and tactical advantage, I don't know why they didn't implement it. It would allow you to scan the mind of most potential adversaries to determine deceit or motive. Sort of like in Babylon 5 where people hire commercial telepaths to sit in on business negotiations to make sure they don't try to cheat each-other. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 5:10:37 AM EDT
[#11]
 Somebody mentioned it already. But whenever Troi’s mom appeared on an episode I would cringe. Just no!!! Not again. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 5:25:13 AM EDT
[#12]
worf’s autistic son was the worst character.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 5:27:09 AM EDT
[#13]
Arguably the greatest cuck in Hollywood history.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 5:32:59 AM EDT
[#14]
Worf
Or whatever he was called He only ever won fights in the holodeck. Got his ass kicked regular, people would beam on deck kill a few red shirts and 30 seconds later he’d pull his phaser. His security staff were useless, his loyalty was always divided to his culture or ship, sometimes leaving and ignoring orders. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 6:27:21 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To me it was Worf. He got his ass kicked every other episode. He didn't come into his own until he put on the command colors in DS9. Every time you had a strong alien show up, they showed they were strong by throwing Worf. Writers were literally purposefully doing that. Problem is, they didn't realize if you do it too much, rather than making the new villain for the episode look super-threatening instead you make the supposed tough guy look ineffective. This has been termed the 'Worf Effect' Early on, the writers were actually trying to make a point, which was brute force wasn't effective, you need to either use science or feelings. But later on they just went into lazy mode and did it a ton. You don't see it in DS9 because the actor got so sick of it he actually had it put in his contract he wouldn't do those scenes any more. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wesley Crusher was Gene Roddenberry inserting himself into Star Trek TNG. This. Eugene Wesley Roddenberry was fascinated by the idea of a child genius aboard a starship. So Wesley Crusher was on board the Enterprise D from episode 1. Then the writer's strike happened, and Roddenberry had a whole stack of "Wesley Crusher saves the universe" scripts ready, it wouldn't have been bad if they did like 1 per season but they burned the whole pile in Season 1. So now Wesley Saves the Day has to keep getting bigger and stupider... |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:37:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Love this...they edited in the blooper.
 Star Trek INtakes: Geordi and Worf Celebrate Their Rescue |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:39:43 AM EDT
[#18]
I would absolutely not want to be a no name red shirt for a mission.
Nope. Fuck that. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:39:52 AM EDT
[#19]
Dr. Polaski. Eww.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 9:43:21 AM EDT
[#20]
OPNI but killing him wouldn't have rescued a shit series. TNG was just awful in so many ways.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:03:54 AM EDT
[#21]
Start Trek TNG was the most useless series in the franchise.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:15:38 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Start Trek TNG was the most useless series in the franchise. Fight me Their uniforms are so stupid I can't watch it. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:22:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Jake Sisko was pretty useless.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:44:11 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/31/51/e13151bf00bfcf8a4c7c8ee11b74ad77.jpg Somebody mentioned it already. But whenever Troi’s mom appeared on an episode I would cringe. Just no!!! Not again. She was a super slutty GILF and you just know Picard was slaying that shit when no one was looking. Bet O’Brien was giving Picard high-fives every time he transported her off the ship. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:46:33 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She was a super slutty GILF and you just know Picard was slaying that shit when no one was looking. Bet O’Brien was giving Picard high-fives every time he transported her off the ship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/31/51/e13151bf00bfcf8a4c7c8ee11b74ad77.jpg Somebody mentioned it already. But whenever Troi’s mom appeared on an episode I would cringe. Just no!!! Not again. She was a super slutty GILF and you just know Picard was slaying that shit when no one was looking. Bet O’Brien was giving Picard high-fives every time he transported her off the ship. Shame, shame, how dare you say such things about the queen of the Rodenberry empire? |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:56:12 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't he save their butt in at least 3 different episodes? "Contrived" episodes. Totally contrived. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 10:58:07 AM EDT
[#27]
Troi's mom or Worf's son are by far the most useless characters on the show. Each episode they are in is garbage.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:04:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Whatever. Jellico got shit done with a quickness. He wasn't running the love boat like picard. He was getting a crew ready to go to war. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well Captain Jellico was a wank, so.... Whatever. Jellico got shit done with a quickness. He wasn't running the love boat like picard. He was getting a crew ready to go to war. Bingo. Jellico made all the right decisions, in the context of preparing the ship and crew for a war the Federation believed to be imminent. He wouldn't have been as good an explorer-diplomat like Picard, but that didn't matter. Kinda weird how Riker evidently had such a hard time appreciating that. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:15:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo. Jellico made all the right decisions, in the context of preparing the ship and crew for a war the Federation believed to be imminent. He wouldn't have been as good an explorer-diplomat like Picard, but that didn't matter. Kinda weird how Riker evidently had such a hard time appreciating that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well Captain Jellico was a wank, so.... Whatever. Jellico got shit done with a quickness. He wasn't running the love boat like picard. He was getting a crew ready to go to war. Bingo. Jellico made all the right decisions, in the context of preparing the ship and crew for a war the Federation believed to be imminent. He wouldn't have been as good an explorer-diplomat like Picard, but that didn't matter. Kinda weird how Riker evidently had such a hard time appreciating that. I said it above...the whole crew acted like spoiled little shits when daddy left. Jellico comes in and starts giving orders and the crew of the Federation flagship..who I am assuming would be the best in the fleet...do nothing except make excuses. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:28:50 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dr. Polaski. Eww. She wanted some of that Klingon lovin' bad. That episode where she covered for Worf's Klingon measles, she got wet when he performed the Klingon tea ceremony for her and recited Klingon love poetry. 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:36:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:45:34 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh, not gonna fight you, but my biggest complaint about Data is that he was like Superman. Anytime they got into a jam, they just basically said, "Thank goodness Data is here to ________" (fill in the blank with whatever special skill was needed at that moment). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Data did more harm than good. Fight me. Eh, not gonna fight you, but my biggest complaint about Data is that he was like Superman. Anytime they got into a jam, they just basically said, "Thank goodness Data is here to ________" (fill in the blank with whatever special skill was needed at that moment). My biggest concern with data is how many times was his brain taken over? He turned into a liability because he could just be hacked and turn into a Superman bad guy with a quickness. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 11:50:04 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e1/31/51/e13151bf00bfcf8a4c7c8ee11b74ad77.jpg Somebody mentioned it already. But whenever Troi’s mom appeared on an episode I would cringe. Just no!!! Not again. You realize, that was the exact response that Majel Barrett was trying to illicit. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 12:06:51 PM EDT
[#34]
What i find hilarious is that grown adults can have discussions like these about frictional garbage.
As if ANY star trek character was worth a shit. Guess what?  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 1:03:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: worf’s autistic son was the worst character. Yeah, I would agree with that. My most useless TNG character list, starting at least useful: Alexander Wesley (all cases in which he saved the ship were ridiculous contrivances) Mott the barber Lwaxana Troi Dr. Pulaski Deanna Troi Tasha Yar (yes, a character that lasted less than 3 seasons is more appreciable than any of the above!) |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 1:11:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What i find hilarious is that grown adults can have discussions like these about frictional garbage. As if ANY star trek character was worth a shit. Guess what? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4bgB9EqaESo...you mean "stop liking what I don't like." Got it. 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 1:31:12 PM EDT
[#37]
Pluto has a channel dedicated to the TNG......
They just had wesley saving Picard in a cave. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 1:40:13 PM EDT
[#38]
To be fair, most of the TNG characters were worthless. A lot like the plot, the writing, the entire show actually.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 1:46:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neelix had a reasonably hot GF for the time. Credit where it's due. Yeah but she went down hill real quick IRL.https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/ 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 2:24:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but she went down hill real quick IRL.https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/jennifer-lien-mugshot.jpg?w=600 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Neelix had a reasonably hot GF for the time. Credit where it's due. Yeah but she went down hill real quick IRL.https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/jennifer-lien-mugshot.jpg?w=600 Isn't that the Changeling? 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 2:32:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So...you mean "stop liking what I don't like." Got it. Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 2:32:56 PM EDT
[#42]
No it's Kes but she must have been hitting the Ketracel-White hard starting at the end of Voyager's run.
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:07:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No it's Kes but she must have been hitting the Ketracel-White hard starting at the end of Voyager's run. TDS? 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:11:28 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The only thing she was good for is the low cut uniform, which is a whole different issue that she gets to wear whatever the hell she wants despite being part of the ships command crew. She’s also probably faking even being a half empath as noted by the fact that she plays in all the after hour poker games. Even a half empath should be able to clean up at a game where the main skill is guessing whether or not your opponent is telling a lie. Not to mention how many species they encountered that had plot armor which wouldn’t allow her to sense their emotions. She can basically read Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons which is a nearly worthless skill because those races are written to basically have a single emotion. She serves no purpose being on the ship. I cannot agree.  The most pointless character was..... |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:16:54 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd say that title goes to Neelix. You're correct, but OP did say TNG. In the TNG universe, There is a tie for a couple worthless characters with Wesley being the heavy favorite. Need proof? I give you the TNG Lego set:  Let's see if you can spot his character. That should tell you something. 
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:24:04 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It would of been the best show ever if Riker blew him out an airlock randomly with no plot point. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter... |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:29:42 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The only thing she was good for is the low cut uniform, which is a whole different issue that she gets to wear whatever the hell she wants despite being part of the ships command crew. She’s also probably faking even being a half empath as noted by the fact that she plays in all the after hour poker games. Even a half empath should be able to clean up at a game where the main skill is guessing whether or not your opponent is telling a lie. Not to mention how many species they encountered that had plot armor which wouldn’t allow her to sense their emotions. She can basically read Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons which is a nearly worthless skill because those races are written to basically have a single emotion. She serves no purpose being on the ship. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wrong. Troi is absolutely useless. I'll give you a summary of every interaction between Picard and Troi: "What do you sense counselor?" "I'm not sure Captain, they're very closed off." This. The only thing she was good for is the low cut uniform, which is a whole different issue that she gets to wear whatever the hell she wants despite being part of the ships command crew. She’s also probably faking even being a half empath as noted by the fact that she plays in all the after hour poker games. Even a half empath should be able to clean up at a game where the main skill is guessing whether or not your opponent is telling a lie. Not to mention how many species they encountered that had plot armor which wouldn’t allow her to sense their emotions. She can basically read Vulcans, Romulans and Klingons which is a nearly worthless skill because those races are written to basically have a single emotion. She serves no purpose being on the ship. Her purpose was titties and eye candy. Everybody knows that:  Beavis and Butt-head Do Star Trek Nobody knows Wesley's purpose. |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:42:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She wanted some of that Klingon lovin' bad. That episode where she covered for Worf's Klingon measles, she got wet when he performed the Klingon tea ceremony for her and recited Klingon love poetry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dr. Polaski. Eww. She wanted some of that Klingon lovin' bad. That episode where she covered for Worf's Klingon measles, she got wet when he performed the Klingon tea ceremony for her and recited Klingon love poetry. Yeah, but she epitomized his saying of "Human women are too fragile. I require a Klingon." |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:42:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
I forgot about that. "Number One I order you to go take a number two." |
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Posted: 10/11/2020 3:44:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot agree. https://i.imgur.com/RC9SsyEh.jpg The most pointless character was..... https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.US1K4e6ZVuaPrBbqLRd_JQHaEM%26pid%3DApi&f=1 Nonsense. Q is the most under-utilized character and theme in any of the ST series. And Delancey is an excellent actor. |
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