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Posted: 11/24/2021 3:38:04 AM EDT
I'm kinda fascinated by the history of the M1 carbine, how all these companies that didn't normally make guns ended up manufacturing them. And I know pretty much everyone was involved in the war effort during WWII. Are there any good comprehensive resources about what companies made what war materials? Everything from guns to vehicles to uniforms and field gear. Books/websites/etc.
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Freedoms' Forge
Hyde, Charles K. Arsenal of Democracy: The American Automobile Industry in World War II. From wiki for Arsenal of Democracy: United States armament manufacturers The spending on military production was distributed 32% for aircraft, 14.8% for ships, 25.6% for ordnance (guns, ammunition and military vehicles), 4.9% for electronics, and the remaining 22.7% for fuels, clothing, construction materials, and food. Note that production costs fell steadily—the same item cost much less to produce in 1945 than in 1942. The largest United States military prime contractors are listed below in order of the total value of munitions produced from June 1940 through September 1944. These large firms produced many different items; the aircraft companies assembled parts made by thousands of firms. General Motors, trucks, tanks, aircraft parts Curtiss-Wright, aircraft engines Ford Motor Company, trucks, aircraft Convair, aircraft Douglas Aircraft Company, aircraft United Aircraft, aircraft parts Bethlehem Steel, ships Chrysler, tanks, electronics, trucks General Electric, electrical parts, engines Lockheed Corporation, aircraft North American Aviation, aircraft Boeing, aircraft AT&T Corporation, telephones Glenn L. Martin Company, aircraft DuPont, chemicals, ammunition, atomic bomb parts U.S. Steel, steel Bendix Aviation, aircraft parts Packard, aircraft engines Sperry Corporation, electronics Kaiser Shipyards, ships Westinghouse Electric Company, parts Grumman, aircraft Newport News Shipbuilding, ships Republic Aviation, aircraft Bell Aircraft, aircraft Vigor Shipyards, ships Nash-Kelvinator, parts Studebaker, trucks Consolidated Steel Corporation, steel Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company, tires Esso, gasoline & oil Avco, aircraft parts International Harvester, trucks American Locomotive Company, tanks Western Cartridge Company, ammunition American Car and Foundry Company, tanks United States Rubber Company, rubber parts Continental Motors, Inc., aircraft parts Sunoco, gasoline & oil Baldwin Locomotive Works, tanks Pressed Steel Car Company, tanks Permanente Metals, incendiary bombs RCA, radios Caterpillar Inc., tanks Allis-Chalmers, parts |
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Union Switch and Signal makers of switches and signals for railroads, made 1911s. I'd love to have one as a railroader, but they're somewhat rare.
And of course Singer the sewing machine company, made M1 Carbines (and maybe 1911s?) |
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Sinister, thanks! Great info. I came across Freedom's Forge in a quick search, I will have to look into both of those books.
Originally Posted By ARinKCMO: Union Switch and Signal makers of switches and signals for railroads, made 1911s. I'd love to have one as a railroader, but they're somewhat rare. And of course Singer the sewing machine company, made M1 Carbines (and maybe 1911s?) View Quote http://m1family.com/underwood-carbine-registry-t83.html They made 500 M1911A1 pistols as an 'educational order" but never entered full production. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/holy-grail-1911s-singer-1911a1/ |
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Rockola made M1 carbines. The juke box company
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I don’t know of a comprehensive publication.
Fact is EVERY company switched to wartime production. Certainly in USA, Germany, and Japan. The M1C was made by Rochester Postal Meter. Stocks by Trimble. Larry Ruth’s book on the Carbine lists suppliers for each final assembly plant, and if you dig into the history of each you’ll see most were only remotely involved in the type of manufacturing they did during the war. One of my buddies, a researcher on the Browning MGs, showed up at the building that made the M2 tripods for the Buffalo Arms 1919s. He asked to get in the basement; the president said they don’t have a basement, and my buddy informed him yes, you do. Most people now have no idea that every building was wartime production. |
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M-1C was made jointly by Griffin & Howe and Springfield. Unhardened receivers were sent to G&H which then drilled and tapped the receivers for their scope mount. The units were sent back to Springfield for hardening (which caused some mounts to warp). The metallurgy of the mounts were changed by G&H to fix it (as well as making the mounts sturdier).
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Originally Posted By Abom: I don’t know of a comprehensive publication. Fact is EVERY company switched to wartime production. Certainly in USA, Germany, and Japan. The M1C was made by Rochester Postal Meter. Stocks by Trimble. Larry Ruth’s book on the Carbine lists suppliers for each final assembly plant, and if you dig into the history of each you’ll see most were only remotely involved in the type of manufacturing they did during the war. One of my buddies, a researcher on the Browning MGs, showed up at the building that made the M2 tripods for the Buffalo Arms 1919s. He asked to get in the basement; the president said they don’t have a basement, and my buddy informed him yes, you do. Most people now have no idea that every building was wartime production. View Quote Was anything interesting found in the basement? |
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For weapons, I'd have to say the M1 Carbine had the most eclectic mix of oddball ''who'da thunk it'' manufacturers.
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Originally Posted By fxntime: For weapons, I'd have to say the M1 Carbine had the most eclectic mix of oddball ''who'da thunk it'' manufacturers. View Quote Considering it was supposed to have the firepower of a pistol, it was quite a novel concept. Not as novel as the intermediate cartridge (like the Jap. 6.5 mm or the 7.92 kurz) and the Stgw, but uniquely American. |
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Stanley/Bostitch headed the consortium that was New England Small Arms and manufactured BARs here in Rhode Island.
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In my small town, the cigar factory supposedly switched to making parachutes.
My mother worked there briefly before getting married to her 1st husband and having kids. |
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After Ford turned down the Brits to make the Merlin Engine, it was produced by Packard. The reliance on Detroit to enable the Allies eventual victory has been overlooked by many. Notwithstanding the ability of applying mass production to military production. This is what Saginaw Steering Gear did to the Browning 1919A4:
Effects of these studies were significant when Plant 2 again exceeded expectations when the deadline of March, 1942 approached. 280 guns at a price of $667 per gun were expected to be delivered according to the contract. Plant 2 was able to produce 28,728 guns by that time and reduce the price to $141.44 by the deadline. By the wars end, 412,000 Browning 1919 Machines guns were produced. Plant 2 was able to save the government $240,000,000 with pricing reduced to $54.72 per unit at the end of the war (Nexteer Automotive, 2015). On June 30, 1943 Saginaw Steering Gear voluntarily offered the United States Government $6,743,780 for its machine gun contract. Major N. W. McCormick, United states Army, Detroit Ordnance District said this about production from Saginaw Steering, "In addition to your exceptional production record, Saginaw Steering Gear has reduced the cost of a gun to less than 25% of your original estimate when you started production. The achievements of this division are fantastic, unbelievable," (Saginaw Steering Gear Division of General Motors, 1945) View Quote Take a look at Willow Run, a plant that mass produced B-24's. Even more, parts went from hand fit to interchangeable. It's a rabbit hole, but a very interesting one I fell into a couple of years ago. Still working on it. Freedoms Forge - Arthur Herman The Arsenal of Democracy - A.J. Baime Arsenal of Democracy - Charles Hyde |
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International Harvester made more than just trucks during the war. They made M1 Garand rifles too. I have a lot of family that lived in the Quad Cities area -Rock Island, Moline, etc. They all either worked at International Harvester or worked at the Rock Island Arsenal during the war.
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IHC didn't make M1's during WWII. They made them in the mid 1950's. The only M1 manufacturer's during WWII were Springfield Armory and Winchester. International Harvester and H&R produced theirs after the Korean War.
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The mosquito bomber was designed so funiture manufacturers could make many if it's parts. The amazing part is how creative manufacturing had to get. Machine tool production lagged production increases by a good deal. Plus there was the mandate at the time to send machine tools over to the USSR to upgrade their manufacturing. Americans and British became real good making custom gadgets and jigs that made it possible to get a lot done with little.
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One has to acknowledge a tremendous debt of gratitude to Edsel Ford who was the mastermind behind the conversion and coordination of our industrial base to a wartime footing. And he did it all for free. Sadly his accomplishments are little known and having a failed car model named after him added to the obscurity.
Eastman Kodak: - Complex prism system used in the Norden bomb sight. - Various optical products including binoculars and a really neat, for it's time, 1x rifle scope that allowed to soldier to shoot with two eyes open while projecting crosshairs showing where the rifle was pointed. - The proximity fuse used in AA shells. - Various films and cameras, but that was their bailiwick anyway. - They also made a hand grenade that was supposed to explode on contact, but it had less than stellar reliability and never made it into mass production. It was round instead of the pineapple shape used at the time. The purpose was to prevent the grenade from being thrown back by the enemy. - They also did various neat thing for the Manhattan Project. |
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Louden Manufacturing, Fairfield, Iowa
from Wiki During World War II, the company reached record production levels, fueled by demand for the company's overhead handling equipment, including the improved Louden "Super Track" monorail systems. Military applications of Louden Monorail included its application for material handling devices used in the manufacture of the first atomic bomb at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, and for material handling in a B-29 bomber plant in Marietta, Georgia.[1][4][7] We lived on a farm south of Fairfield. Dad got a 352 draft number and as he was already farming 110 acres he was able to work a night shift at Louden's during the war. He mostly welded PSP runway steel panels for the Pacific airfields. My Grandfather farmed east of Fairfield and he had a classic Louden designed barn with a lot of Louden equipment for hay handling, milking parlor and milk storage equipment. Also had 4 stalls for his Percheron(?) horses he farmed with. |
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