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Posted: 3/20/2021 12:30:49 AM EDT
The website seems to promote visitors ("Start your adventure here!"), but then says that because the museum is on NAS Pensacola that access is restricted to DoD ID holders (who can escort up to 15 guests).  Does anyone know if there is a pool of regular DoD ID holders who sponsor tours of the National Naval Aviation Museum at NAS Pensacola?

The museum Facebook page also mentions that Tuesday March 23 and Wednesday March 24 the Blue Angels are flying at 10:00 a.m.  Those with DoD ID access can get on the flight line behind the museum at 9:00 a.m.  For those who cannot get on base (us), is there a preferred spot to watch the Blue Angels practice?

I am flying down to Gulf Shores on Sunday and spending the week with my son.  We are looking for some fun aviation things to do because of potential bad weather mid-week.  And it's the home of the Blue Angels!
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 5:25:45 AM EDT
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Yeah, I was there last week and they took my temperature and asked me to show ID when I entered.  I think that was the first time I ever had to show ID to get in.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 7:27:41 AM EDT
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Any net taxpayer should be allowed in and given vip seating.  What a insult to citizens.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 9:46:11 AM EDT
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Thanks for the info. Yeah I suppose we could always go and ask.

But the info that DoD ID holders can escort up to 15 people made me think there might be a pool of ID holders that take people on the tours.

I have a hard time believing that the museum stays busy with only DoD visitors.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 11:14:31 AM EDT
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If you are unable to get in and want to see the show, drive down to the end of Johnson Beach Road in the National Seashore. Or, rent a pontoon and beach it at Robertson Island and they will fly right over you.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 11:54:10 AM EDT
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Great thanks!
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 12:56:28 PM EDT
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When did that start?!

It used to be open to the public, you could enter the base through one specific gate and were instructed to drive directly to the museum, but there was no muss and no fuss.  I’ve visited many times with a .civ DL, and never had to show a .mil ID.

ETA- It’s an awesome museum, probably the best military aviation museum in the country, short of the Smithsonian.  I hope you get to visit OP.
Link Posted: 3/20/2021 2:29:59 PM EDT
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Better than Dayton?
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 12:26:11 AM EDT
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Having been to both... easily.

I've been to the Naval Museum 4 times and never had to show an ID other than a driver's license. Must be some new bullshit because of china cooties.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 12:52:38 AM EDT
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Undoubtedly.  Not to put Dayton down, it's a very good museum.  However Pensacola is in a class all by itself.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 9:53:32 AM EDT
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There wasn't much there when I first went, in 1982.  It was much better the last time I went, in 1991.  I guess it's time to go again.  

As for security, there was a shooting on base a couple of years ago, so that may have had something to do with the stricter rules.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 9:56:03 AM EDT
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I've been to Dayton twice.
I might have to take a trip to Pensacola.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 10:08:48 AM EDT
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It’s been all jacked up here since COVID and the Saudi terrorist attack.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 10:28:57 AM EDT
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We tried to go a year ago  at New Years but it was all shut down due to a shooting there .

We ended up going to the Air Force museum about 40 miles east . Eggleston ?

Had a Great time .
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 11:12:53 AM EDT
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That makes a lot of sense. Shut out the civilians due to an attack perpetrated by foreigners that were invited and screened.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 11:31:50 AM EDT
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That makes a lot of sense. Shut out the civilians due to an attack perpetrated by foreigners that were invited and screened.

Well, we are all domestic extremist terrorists, right?

Clown world indeed.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 1:12:49 PM EDT
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Not even close.

Pensacola is a very, very good museum, but Dayton is mind blowing.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 1:43:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/21/2021 1:46:25 PM EDT
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Dayton is mind blowing in size, but the Naval Museum will actually let you touch the airplanes.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 1:54:06 PM EDT
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Dayton is mind blowing in size, but the Naval Museum will actually let you touch the airplanes.
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Dayton is mind blowing in size, but the Naval Museum will actually let you touch the airplanes.


We were able to clilmb in and touch a few at Dayton but that was around 6 years ago so who knows now.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 2:15:25 PM EDT
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Yes, Dayton has a few displays like that.  Pensacola has almost none of the aircraft roped off.  You can walk right up to them.  Heck, one of the docents took my 7 year old and sat her down on the wings of several aircraft.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 2:19:57 PM EDT
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Apparently, it depends on who you ask.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 2:50:35 PM EDT
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I recommend the USS Alabama museum as well. It is not too far from Pensacola
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 3:08:33 PM EDT
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Not even close.

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Not even close.

Pensacola is a very, very good museum, but Dayton is mind blowing.


Oh, I'd say it is pretty close.  NMUSAF has some big-ticket items like the B-36, XB-70 and Bock's Car but the NNAM has a lot of unique stuff you won't see anywhere else and the history of naval aviation is really well documented.  Plus, you can get right up close to and walk all around the exhibits and really examine them; you could touch them if you wanted to including SBD-2, BuNo 2106.  And it's way better lit and camera-friendly.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 3:29:31 PM EDT
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Oh, I'd say it is pretty close.  NMUSAF has some big-ticket items like the B-36, XB-70 and Bock's Car but the NNAM has a lot of unique stuff you won't see anywhere else and the history of naval aviation is really well documented.  Plus, you can get right up close to and walk all around the exhibits and really examine them; you could touch them if you wanted to including SBD-2, BuNo 2106.  And it's way better lit and camera-friendly.
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Not even close.

Pensacola is a very, very good museum, but Dayton is mind blowing.


Oh, I'd say it is pretty close.  NMUSAF has some big-ticket items like the B-36, XB-70 and Bock's Car but the NNAM has a lot of unique stuff you won't see anywhere else and the history of naval aviation is really well documented.  Plus, you can get right up close to and walk all around the exhibits and really examine them; you could touch them if you wanted to including SBD-2, BuNo 2106.  And it's way better lit and camera-friendly.


Get both

If I had to choose one last museum to visit before I die, it would be Dayton hands down.

But Pensacola would probably be second. Distantly
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 4:32:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/21/2021 6:16:28 PM EDT
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Great museum. One of the best on the planet.
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 11:15:47 PM EDT
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Thanks for all the info.

Now how does a civilian get into it?
Link Posted: 3/21/2021 11:28:15 PM EDT
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Probably not going to, without being escorted by someone with a DOD ID.

But call them, and ask.

From the general information section....
" Those with questions about base access should call the Visitor Control Center at 850-452-4153"
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 12:08:46 AM EDT
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Probably not going to, without being escorted by someone with a DOD ID.

But call them, and ask.

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Yep. I’ll call.
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 6:18:39 PM EDT
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Let us know what you find out.  If it’s truly inaccessible to the public, then it’s a waste of taxpayer dollars and we should write our Senators demanding it be should be shut down.  

Or just don’t let sand people come over here.

ETA- The PNA Museum is the finest ambassador for Naval Aviation to the American people that I can think of.  Obviously I don’t want it shut down, I want whomever made that decision to pull their head out of their ass.  The American people didn’t shoot anyone, a foreign terrorist did.  And he had access to the base, so...
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 6:54:25 PM EDT
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No answer when I called.

The front page has a pop up box:

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Link Posted: 3/22/2021 7:07:40 PM EDT
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Let us know what you find out.  If it’s truly inaccessible to the public, then it’s a waste of taxpayer dollars and we should write our Senators demanding it be should be shut down.  

Or just don’t let sand people come over here.

ETA- The PNA Museum is the finest ambassador for Naval Aviation to the American people that I can think of.  Obviously I don’t want it shut down, I want whomever made that decision to pull their head out of their ass.  The American people didn’t shoot anyone, a foreign terrorist did.  And he had access to the base, so...
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Except that.......the Museum is funded by the Naval Aviation Museum Foundation, Inc., a nonprofit, 501(c)(3) educational and fundraising organization that supports the development of the National Naval Aviation Museum.

Naval Aviation Museum Foundation
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 7:18:20 PM EDT
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I am trying to see if there are DoD ID holders who bring people on base for tours taking advantage of the 15 visitors that can accompany them policy.  It strikes me that this policy must have a purpose and a corresponding volunteer group to give civilians and vets and opportunity to see the museum.

I am a veteran but it seems like it’s been a lifetime since I wore the uniform and had a valid military ID.
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 7:30:35 PM EDT
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Taking family and friends on a base is one thing, but....

If I were a DOD ID holder, there is no way I'd take a bunch of strangers on a military base. I mean, how do you know who they are, and what their intentions are?
Link Posted: 3/22/2021 8:32:01 PM EDT
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If I were a DOD ID holder, there is no way I'd take a bunch of strangers on a military base. I mean, how do you know who they are, and what their intentions are?
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Taking family and friends on a base is one thing, but....

If I were a DOD ID holder, there is no way I'd take a bunch of strangers on a military base. I mean, how do you know who they are, and what their intentions are?


Yeah, that's a good point I guess.  But there is a volunteer area on their website.

Volunteer

The National Naval Aviation Museum has a volunteer staff of over 400 people, adding a very important personal touch to each visitor’s experience. Our volunteers perform myriad functions including security, restoration, special events, and hosting tours. Many volunteers have backgrounds in Naval Aviation – giving our visitors a sense of “been there, done that.” We couldn’t open our doors and provide our guests with a high quality experience without the enthusiastic commitment of our volunteers.


I spoke with the guy down at our hotel desk and when I asked about admission he was like "show ID at the gate, and get in -- I've been there 10 times, it's awesome."  I asked when he was last there and it was 3 years ago.

When is the most recent that anyone here has gone by just showing civilian ID?
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 12:58:00 PM EDT
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We ended up driving to the National Seashore at Perdido Key this morning.  It was $25 to get a 7-day pass.  The park ranger working the entrance gate was nice and confirmed that NAS Pensacola has been on a DoD ID-only access policy since the terrorist attack.  He said that quite a bit changed after that.

The road is blocked off at the main parking area, so we parked and walked in about a mile or two further.  We saw the Blue Angels off in the distance, and they made a couple of passes relatively close to the key (close enough to see the colors on the jets).

The weather was BKN021 so they basically just did laps around KNPA for about a half-hour, then formed up and did wider loops with one sometimes making a solo pass of the field.

So, we saw the Blue Angels.

Actually yesterday morning we saw two of them fly down the beach in front of our hotel in formation.

Thanks for the info everyone.
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 4:33:54 PM EDT
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That museum is amazing.
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Argh, I don't need to hear that as I sit here in the hotel room waiting for the storm to blow through contemplating mini golf.  

I hope they tied my airplane down well....
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 7:10:44 PM EDT
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This.

It's been a long time since I was there, but I enjoyed it.  They have a submarine there, too.

USS Alabama
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 8:00:59 PM EDT
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Fly down to KTIX (Titusville) and go out to Kennedy Space Center. It ain't as cool as the Navy Museum, but its got a coolness factor of its own.
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 9:09:03 PM EDT
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Unfortunately we won't have time to do that on this trip.

I have been on the USS Wisconsin while driving through Norfolk once.

I also flew to Manitowoc, WI, to visit the Maritime Museum and tour the submarine USS Cobia.  That was fun.

Guess I can scratch the National Naval Aviation Museum off the list....

We are going to do the self-guided tour of Fort Morgan, which should be cool.
Link Posted: 3/23/2021 9:56:56 PM EDT
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What a sad time to be alive.  
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 2:08:10 PM EDT
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A round about way to get in may be asking to go to the military cemetery that is on base. I doubt that is restricted
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 2:36:35 PM EDT
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I was back at the airport for a bit today and spoke with the woman at the FBO desk.  She said that the base restrictions are the result of COVID, not the terrorist shooting.  She said that the Naval Aviation Museum was open to the public until last spring when COVID hit.
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 2:53:57 PM EDT
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If you’re still in Pensacola, check out The Fish House restaurant. Yummy.
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 2:56:17 PM EDT
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We never went to Pensacolo.  We are in Orange Beach.

Luna's is awesome.  Moe's BBQ is great.
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 3:55:44 PM EDT
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Looks like the mullet toss at Florabama is next month, sadly.
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 5:01:13 PM EDT
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The museum at Eglin AFB was legit back in the day. Not sure what the current status is. Might be worth a drive if open.
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+1
Link Posted: 3/24/2021 5:11:00 PM EDT
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That's better, I suppose.  Thanks for sharing that information; it gives me some dim hope that perhaps it will be public-access again once things go back to normal.

Or IF, I guess...

ETA- Still doesn't make any sense though.  Is your DoD escort supposed to ward away the COVID you may be carrying?  
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