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Posted: 10/15/2019 9:25:55 AM EDT
Of course they had to get towed out, and caused lots of damage underneath.

You Took Your Hyundai WHERE?!!
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 9:28:09 AM EDT
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"Do you want the insurance?"
"Heh heh... hells yea!"

Link Posted: 10/15/2019 9:32:10 AM EDT
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I'll give it to the Hyundai, that it was running still and the wheels were turning.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 9:32:20 AM EDT
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Uhhh... hope they paid for the extra insurance
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 9:50:05 AM EDT
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Thought I had seen it all with this diesel Excursion.  To get to this point they had gone through 7 miles of trail at least that bad.
Twisted his front drive shaft off in this mud hole.   Took two jeeps and three ATVs to pull him out of the hole.

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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 9:57:08 AM EDT
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I had a Toyota Celica that made it through some pretty difficult trails.
It was a $450 rat I bought from a tow yard so there was a high level of ain't care, almost to that of rental car.

I have watched a few of that guy's videos. More impressive to me then the wheeling rental car is how he does some pretty challenging recoveries with a very basic setup.
No winch, no trail armor, no rigging. Just a dude with an XJ, a pintle hitch and a big rope.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:01:13 AM EDT
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Insurance covers normal use, they will likely deny coverage for the renter.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:02:08 AM EDT
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Report it stolen?
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:02:53 AM EDT
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Hahaha, Matt's videos are awesome

I was amazed at this one, how far the guy got, especially with only front wheel drive!

Watch some more of his videos, they are all entertaining
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:03:58 AM EDT
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Yeah, I don't think they will cover off pavement use, but they might have to prove it. Shouldn't be hard. Lol
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:05:19 AM EDT
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BTW - The name of the town is pronounced "Hurrakin"  
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:09:28 AM EDT
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I had a Toyota Celica that made it through some pretty difficult trails.
It was a $450 rat I bought from a tow yard so there was a high level of ain't care, almost to that of rental car.


I have watched a few of that guy's videos. More impressive to me then the wheeling rental car is how he does some pretty challenging recoveries with a very basic setup.
No winch, no trail armor, no rigging. Just a dude with an XJ, a pintle hitch and a big rope.
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It's amazing what you can put a POS car through when you don't care about it. When I was a teen I had a Datsun F10 wagon that a customer abandoned at our shop because he didn't what to pay for a clutch job. It was a rusty pile of crap, with 170,000 miles on it and burned a quart of oil for every tank of gas but still ran fairly well. I figured FWD was almost as good as 4WD and used to take that thing on Jeep trails all the time.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:14:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:19:29 AM EDT
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Dick move.  The guy that rented it should now have to own it.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:20:37 AM EDT
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Depends.

GPS/mapping shows some surprisingly rough trails as "roads". Many legally are and a lot of them start out as tame dirt roads, getting progressively harder until you are in over your head and may not be able to turn back.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:29:20 AM EDT
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Rubicon next trail...
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:35:45 AM EDT
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I have been assured by numerous arfcomers that 4WD is unnecessary and it's the drivers skill that is all that matters.

Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:36:51 AM EDT
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LOL.  I've taken a 2wd Kia Sorento up and down stuff similar.

I think they could've driven out.  But it's hard to say if you haven't been there.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:38:24 AM EDT
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The old guy is right,
"He's got rocks in his head."
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:40:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:50:03 AM EDT
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All rental cars are off-road vehicles.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:52:57 AM EDT
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85 escort wagon.
Never got stuck on the beach.
The 4ft deep, rutted mud hole only 8ft long....that i figured momentum would over come depth....almost killed it.
Walked to the nearest house, offered the guy with his old f100 our change..5$ to tow us out. But we had to dive under to hook it up.
Then had to beat the starter with a hammer to get it going
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:56:36 AM EDT
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I hope so.  That jackass deserves to pay every penny of that damage.  And most rental contracts specifically state that no off-road use is allowed (yes, even with SUV's), so hopefully there's an even stronger chance that said jackass gets to pay up, since the terms of the contract were broken, extra insurance or not.

I can't stand the lowlife scumbag mentality of "I don't own it, so I'm gonna abuse the crap out of it!".
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 10:57:05 AM EDT
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I could easily make that trail with my F-350 - and get a lifetime supply of brush pistripes.  My stock K5 and my ladyfriend's Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit could also easily make it.

But a FWD generic SUV?  LOL.

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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:02:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:03:49 AM EDT
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That Tucson made it further than I'd expect. I see it as a win.  Not condoning the actions of the driver. Just a mechanical observation.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:05:47 AM EDT
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Guy must have saw the Hyundai commercial of one  going up hells revenge in Moab, I guess he thought that was actually real
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:11:45 AM EDT
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True.

About a decade ago I shot a regional 3 gun match that was held on what was basically a big farm.  Rained all weekend and several of the trails turned to mud.  There were a couple spots where I had to get a bit of a run at it to get my 4x4 truck through.

One guy who flew in for the match rented an AWD sedan because that's all the rental company had for him.  He ran that thing up and down those same trails all weekend long.

Yes, he got the extra insurance.  
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:12:54 AM EDT
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Google Maps would do that with a dirt road to my house in Virginia if they were coming westbound on US-60.  We got a call several times from friends coming over for dinner for their first time.  "Hey, I'm at a dead end on a dirt road, facing a forest, I haven't seen a house in 3 miles.  Yeah, I was using Google Maps, why do you ask?"

we got to the point where we told people "we'll email you directions; don't use Google Maps."
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Depends.

GPS/mapping shows some surprisingly rough trails as "roads". Many legally are and a lot of them start out as tame dirt roads, getting progressively harder until you are in over your head and may not be able to turn back.
Google Maps would do that with a dirt road to my house in Virginia if they were coming westbound on US-60.  We got a call several times from friends coming over for dinner for their first time.  "Hey, I'm at a dead end on a dirt road, facing a forest, I haven't seen a house in 3 miles.  Yeah, I was using Google Maps, why do you ask?"

we got to the point where we told people "we'll email you directions; don't use Google Maps."
Every mapping/navigation program out there tags a road that one of my client's houses is on as a through street and routes people onto it. It turns into a bluffside hiking trail but is a dead end for cars.
It is also a 1 lane, very limited access, very hard to turn around on road.
Tourists and non local truck drivers get routed down it constantly. Especially during the summer it is an utter shitshow watching people ignore the big "not a through street" sign and then get log-jammed in there.
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Rental 4x4s are even better.

We always rent 4x4 Jeeps when we go to Hawaii.

They are, umm, fun.
And no, I don't abuse them, just use as designed.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:16:11 AM EDT
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GPS/mapping shows some surprisingly rough trails as "roads". Many legally are and a lot of them start out as tame dirt roads, getting progressively harder until you are in over your head and may not be able to turn back.
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Depends.

GPS/mapping shows some surprisingly rough trails as "roads". Many legally are and a lot of them start out as tame dirt roads, getting progressively harder until you are in over your head and may not be able to turn back.
Almost had that happen to me in an 03 Tahoe.

I very quickly realized it was going to end badly and found my way back out.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:18:59 AM EDT
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I took an '84 Chevy Nova hatchback (Toyota Tercel) through the wickedest logging trails of the UP while in college.  Need to be towed across some huge felled trees, but my buddies weren't going to leave me behind, I had the keg in the back!  All in all, I was impressed with how it handled.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:21:17 AM EDT
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Insurance covers normal use, they will likely deny coverage for the renter.
Depends.

GPS/mapping shows some surprisingly rough trails as "roads". Many legally are and a lot of them start out as tame dirt roads, getting progressively harder until you are in over your head and may not be able to turn back.
Not surprised.  This stuff happens all the time.

I used to spend a lot of time on the White Rim Trail.  No one reads signs, no one plans ahead and no ones turns around at the first clue that theyre in over their heads.

The party barges owned by the Moab recovery service guys arent free.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:25:33 AM EDT
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I drive that shitty of a road to go shoot long - a lot, and sometimes at night in the snow with zero tracks.

The vehicle wasn't the primary problem. It was the driver and decision making skills. There were lots of places to make a 10 point turn - even 20 yards ahead of where he was boxed up.

Biggest risk I saw to the Hyundai was sharp shale rock that could cut those cheap Chinese sidewalls.

Wonder where the city slicker was from?

Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:26:05 AM EDT
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Noted that the recovery vehicle CEL is on.  Typical for a Heep.

Good basic setup though. Experience and perseverance probably makes him some coin.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:26:30 AM EDT
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LOL, that will be on a used car lot as a one owner lease shortly.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:28:26 AM EDT
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And spectator night dragsters too.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:32:11 AM EDT
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Still too may syllables. It Herkin.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:32:40 AM EDT
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Most folks are rolling into the woods with no recovery gear, no water, no preps to spend a night or 3 out there.

The best advice for most is - 'In in 2 wheel drive, Out in 4 wheel drive' when you start to get stuck in 2 - you're done.

Pizza cutters and pickin your line for the win.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:37:57 AM EDT
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Best part was the "seven minutes later"; and that camera man has some balls, standing behind like that.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:46:18 AM EDT
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Meh, the trail wasnt the problem. If he hadnt gotten it stuck trying to turn around he could have driven on out.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:46:24 AM EDT
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Yeah, I was in an unfamiliar area once and Google Maps had me drive down steep slippery unpaved "road" that ended a bit after that descent.  It had been overgrown with small trees and was unpassable.

Going down I was slipping and sliding a bit and I distinctly remember thinking "thank god I dont have to go up this road".
So much for that.

I was driving a 2wd SUV with HT tires and when I finally managed to make a U-turn on that trail, I was wondering how I was gonna get up that steep slippery slope.

I aired down my tires, backed up a bit so I had enough room to get some momentum, and floored it.  Thank god I made it up and through the slippery parts.
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LOL.

Reminds me of a time a buddy and I were camped on Canaan Mountain. We were about 1/2 mile from the end of the FS road back there. The road continues after that, but it's owned by a paper company and not the FS, so it's 4WD only through there.

Some guy in a minivan with wife and little kids drives by the camp. Usually people get to the end of the FS road, turn around and drive by the other direction within 10 mins or so.  We're sitting there and I mention that that guy hasn't been back. Kind of shrugged and figured they went hiking on one of the trails back there.

About an hour later guy comes dragging ass into camp, explains that he's hung up in a creek crossing and asks if I could go back for his wife and kids. Along the way we stop and he picks up various pieces of the minivan laying along the trail.

Eventually I get stopped by some big tree limbs that my truck won't fit under without dragging out the chainsaw, so we park and walk the last 1/4 mile to the creek where we find the minivan piled up on some rocks. That's where it died when he let the magic smoke out of it.

I gave the guy an A for effort as he almost made it.

His only explanation was that the map showed it as a "road", which was true.

ETA, this is where he took the minivan.

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Is that Chris Shontz (from Venture 4wd)in the Orange Jeep?
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:54:45 AM EDT
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LOL that old man "...got rocks in his head."
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:57:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/15/2019 11:58:51 AM EDT
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Indeed, what a fucking dumbass, ruined a car for no good reason
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 12:08:02 PM EDT
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“From Nevada, he’s got rocks in his head” LOL I love it. Ole’ Ed. I have come across a number of idiots and had to rescue their butts because they are STUPID. Friggin’ millennials don’t belong in the damned desert.
Link Posted: 10/15/2019 12:08:37 PM EDT
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I present to you, from the files of the FB group "Oregon Inlet Idiots":

Link Posted: 10/15/2019 12:15:31 PM EDT
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They don't call them Jeep roads around here, they're just seasonal roads. More than a few times I'd bring the car back to the office covered in brown dirt because I decided to patrol the seasonal roads in my zone. Learned early that you have to listen to the voice in your head that says to not go any further. Other guys wouldn't,  and they'd be getting towed out like that car in the video.
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