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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:16:31 PM EDT
[#1]
In that thread, several long term members (not calling anyone out at all) said that support for Ukraine was the single and only issue they would vote for this year. They expressed frustration with Republicans who wanted "more oversight" over Ukraine funding.
I'll call them out. They're fools if they're voting ONLY for support of Ukraine and that's their only voting issue.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:17:19 PM EDT
[#2]
Scott Wiener is a pedophile.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:17:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I’m all for the Ukraine whooping Russian ass, having said that, anyone that would put another countries security over our own is not thinking clearly.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:17:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In that thread, several long term members (not calling anyone out at all) said that support for Ukraine was the single and only issue they would vote for this year. They expressed frustration with Republicans who wanted "more oversight" over Ukraine funding. I'll call them out. They're fools if they're voting ONLY for support of Ukraine and that's their only voting issue. Go ahead. Call them out. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:18:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted: Spun off of the big Ukraine-Russia war thread. In that thread, several long term members (not calling anyone out at all) said that support for Ukraine was the single and only issue they would vote for this year. They expressed frustration with Republicans who wanted "more oversight" over Ukraine funding. With that being said, there were claims that all the other issues were not a big deal, propaganda, etc. In fact, it was claimed Democrats would get member votes if they were more "pro Ukraine" than their Republican opponents. If you feel so, you would therefore definitely vote for this candidate:
And against this one:
I have no problem with the nation of Ukraine defending itself. However making purity of "support for Ukraine" the "single issue" type voting on is a terrible idea. What a weiner |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:19:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Post 1000 bro..
Edit: Economy should be number one with most voters, money equals strength, period. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:19:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:19:41 PM EDT
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Single issue voting over a war half a world away between two third world nations is pretty retarded
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:22:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go ahead. Call them out. I don't have user name's. I also am not that emotionally committed as they are. Some of them who show in EVERY thread and post like it's their mom getting attacked.  I hope and pray Ukraine lays waste to Russia and Putin. I also wish your and I's tax money wasn't an open checkbook to a country that is known to be so corrupt. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:25:12 PM EDT
[#10]
Anyone who votes Dem because of Ukraine is dumber then a bag of dog shit.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:25:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who votes Dem because of Ukraine is dumber then a bag of dog shit.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:27:59 PM EDT
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Ukraine was bait.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:33:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Single issue voting over a war half a world away between two third world nations is pretty retarded Agree and it is pretty crazy to think that the dem candidates are not using support as only a talking point. It's interesting though that whomever is running the Whitehouse is so hawkish on Ukraine. I think its the right play and that is where the conflict arises for many here. You still see people spouting well the invasion is all biden's fault He is feckless and it wouldn't have happened under Trump. Which I dunno is the case. Trump was unpredictable but I don't think he would have supported Ukraine to the extent that Biden has. It just boils down to a couple things. Wars cost money and R's are going to pretend to be fiscally conservative and ballyhoo about spending while still running up massive debt. They are tone deaf. We are all in this war and being a terrible ally by shutting support down now is retarded. But it must play to some voters so here we are. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:33:30 PM EDT
[#14]
Fuck Ukraine & Russia.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:34:53 PM EDT
[#15]
It's not the only issue that matters to me, but I'll definitely be scrutinizing GOP candidates' stances on Ukraine and foreign policy pretty closely. If it comes down to a neo-isolationist GOP candidate and a Democrat, I'll just abstain from voting. I'm not voting for someone who is stupid enough to think that ending the present destruction of our number 2 geopolitical opponent and withdrawing from the world will have a good outcome for the United States. The Qtard, Infowarrior section of the GOP/the American right as a whole are no more my friends than the Democrats are.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 6:59:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who votes Dem because of Ukraine is dumber then a bag of dog shit. Whose mom should have gotten scooped by their dad's best friend. |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 8:08:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2022 8:13:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go ahead. Call them out. He doesnt need to "Ukraine" is in the subject line so they'll be checking in here to correct the record |
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Posted: 10/20/2022 8:14:41 PM EDT
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I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 7:56:08 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I agree with this. I have 0 problems whatsoever with a nation seeking to defend itself. Russia is also a geopolitical foe, so there is value in degrading their capabilities. On the other hand, things escalate bit by bit, and we are certainly involved in the war, even if we're not actively participating in the shooting. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:07:59 AM EDT
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I would wager that these members and people like them are why we are in the spot we’re in.
Bump stock, mean tweet rino bros. Ukraine doesn’t deserve shit. Its actually helped strengthen biden in his career. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:10:56 AM EDT
[#22]
The time to decide your platforms was the primaries.
We're now at the general election and the only thing that matters is stonewalling the left. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:14:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:17:03 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go ahead. Call them out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In that thread, several long term members (not calling anyone out at all) said that support for Ukraine was the single and only issue they would vote for this year. They expressed frustration with Republicans who wanted "more oversight" over Ukraine funding. I'll call them out. They're fools if they're voting ONLY for support of Ukraine and that's their only voting issue. Go ahead. Call them out. Only one person in that thread, who I don’t recognize, claimed that. I’m a “Ukraine Bro” and think that would be idiotic to put it mildly. Most of the anti-Ukraine contingent on Arfcom believe that’s the norm as these posts are done to push that idea. Only one rando claimed that in the Ukraine thread. Not “several long time members”. The one that claimed it is dumb. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:18:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:20:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He doesnt need to "Ukraine" is in the subject line so they'll be checking in here to correct the record Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go ahead. Call them out. He doesnt need to "Ukraine" is in the subject line so they'll be checking in here to correct the record Lol….here! One rando in a multi-thousand page thread did it and the OP runs to make a thread about it lol. And here you are…. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:24:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”)  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:24:37 AM EDT
[#28]
People don’t think agents of the state be like they are, but they do.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:25:27 AM EDT
[#29]
I’m a single issue voter.
Defeat all Democrats! |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:25:39 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” Imagine thinking the US us is shoveling money to Ukraine for humanitarian reasons 
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:26:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine thinking the US us is shoveling money to Ukraine for humanitarian reasons Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” Imagine thinking the US us is shoveling money to Ukraine for humanitarian reasons Killing Russians is humanitarian. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:28:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Killing Russians is humanitarian. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” Imagine thinking the US us is shoveling money to Ukraine for humanitarian reasons Killing Russians is humanitarian.  |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:28:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m all for the Ukraine whooping Russian ass, having said that, anyone that would put another countries security over our own is not thinking clearly. Some people are very invested in the thought of writing blank checks with no over sight to a country half the world away where a majority of Americans can't even point out on the map. Oh did i mention no over sight of funds and that our most crooked politicians have formerly and currently had their fucking hands all up the ass of that country. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#34]
There is a Bush, McCain, Romney (aka neocon scumbag) wing of the GOP.
There is a Taft, Buchanan, Trump (aka America First) wing of the GOP. They despise each other nearly as much as they do the criminalcratic party. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:30:20 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a single issue voter. Defeat all Democrats! More than that. I’m a “far right” voter. No RINOS. It’s pretty funny how people don’t think they will fully fund the breaking of Russia as well. You don’t think Trumps endorsed candidates Walker, Oz, Vance, Rubio etc won’t pull the lever for killing Russians? Lol… Tell me who you are voting for and I’ll show you someone who’s going to fund the Ukraine War. Walker will and that’s who I’m voting for. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:32:38 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m all for the Ukraine whooping Russian ass, having said that, anyone that would put another countries security over our own is not thinking clearly. It’s too hard to fight the corruption here at home, and many of them wear black eyes from their support for the failed Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Much easier to get emotionally involved in some conflict thousands of miles away that’s only benefit to us is Natural Gas sales. Maybe they feel it’s a little redemption from their failed foreign policy conquests over the past 60 years. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:36:20 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:41:52 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not the only issue that matters to me, but I'll definitely be scrutinizing GOP candidates' stances on Ukraine and foreign policy pretty closely. If it comes down to a neo-isolationist GOP candidate and a Democrat, I'll just abstain from voting. I'm not voting for someone who is stupid enough to think that ending the present destruction of our number 2 geopolitical opponent and withdrawing from the world will have a good outcome for the United States. The Qtard, Infowarrior section of the GOP/the American right as a whole are no more my friends than the Democrats are. Brilliant. Let's burn the village to save it. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:43:06 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. This isn’t about war crimes or those poor Ukrainians. This is about Natural Gas. We don’t get involved anywhere unless there is a benefit to us. And more often than not it’s natural resources & control/influence over them. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:46:32 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. Story of our history. Bad things only matter when they happen to me. There are no threats unless I’m personally threatened. Why risk my life for someone I don’t know. The bad guy isn’t that bad since I’m not the victim. Even though he says he wants to kill me too. Etc etc etc. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:48:35 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn’t about war crimes or those poor Ukrainians. This is about Natural Gas. We don’t get involved anywhere unless there is a benefit to us. And more often than not it’s natural resources & control/influence over them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. This isn’t about war crimes or those poor Ukrainians. This is about Natural Gas. We don’t get involved anywhere unless there is a benefit to us. And more often than not it’s natural resources & control/influence over them. Lol. Calls anyone supporting Ukraine ShareBlue. Uses same line Code Pink & ShareBlue Dems used from 2002-to today. “War for |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:48:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Spun off of the big Ukraine-Russia war thread. In that thread, several long term members (not calling anyone out at all) said that support for Ukraine was the single and only issue they would vote for this year. They expressed frustration with Republicans who wanted "more oversight" over Ukraine funding. Snip... I have no problem with the nation of Ukraine defending itself. However making purity of "support for Ukraine" the "single issue" type voting on is a terrible idea. With the level of derangement that some of our members have over this war,  |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:49:33 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m all for the Ukraine whooping Russian ass, having said that, anyone that would put another countries security over our own is not thinking clearly. Exactly how I look at it. America and American interests first. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:54:15 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm all for helping Ukrainians be able to defend themself from Putin, but not at the cost of our own defenses, nor by tanking our economy to line pockets of bigwigs. However, I'd rather they didn't fight a pointless war at all. I think Ukraine would prefer to not be fighting too. “Nah man, there are corrupt politicians in Ukraine so fuck the gen pop getting attacked and war crimes committed on them! Shouldn’t have let corruption be present! The random civies getting raped, shelled, and killed? Yawn!” (Meanwhile in the US with our corrupt politicians we “allow”) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/th-463.jpg There is a lot of rape, murder and war crimes occurring throughout the world. If the standard is we must stop the tragedy that has occurred when war and conquest occurs, be prepared to permanently occupy large swaths of Asia, Africa and Latin America. 
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:54:35 AM EDT
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After the last presidential election I'm not voting anymore. I gave up on it just as I gave up on the NFL and Nascar. I just don't give a fuck anymore. I'm 52 years old and our girls are all adults. It's their time now. I wouldn't mind seeing the whole thing burn to the ground. At the end of the day it really doesn't affect your daily life, except for gas prices and we have already bought one Tesla. Turn off the news and leave it off. Your life will be better for it.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:55:09 AM EDT
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Quoted: I have no problem with the nation of Ukraine defending itself. However making purity of "support for Ukraine" the "single issue" type voting on is a terrible idea. 87chan is chock full of democrat supporters that can't openly support democrats, so they use some single issue as a proxy for attacking republicans. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:56:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who votes Dem is dumber then a bag of dog shit. FTSFY |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:56:53 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m all for the Ukraine whooping Russian ass, having said that, anyone that would put another countries security over our own is not thinking clearly. We can’t do both? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:58:40 AM EDT
[#49]
1. Call them out so we can publicly ridicule them for their idiotic position.
2. Ukraine being supported is WAAAAAAYYYY down my list of priorities. 3. However, I think helping Ukraine against Russia is a decent use of resources and may prevent larger conflicts later. 4. But the United States being daddy warbucks needs to stop. 5. Fuck that weiner asshole. Anyone who rejoices in pedo story time should be drawn and quartered. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 8:59:28 AM EDT
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I generally support Ukraine in their fight against Russia. I support lend lease of equipment and providing intel and training.
When it comes time to vote I'll be voting anti abortion first and pro gun second. |
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