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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:10:37 PM EDT
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I don't either. Here in WV, our weekly death rate has stayed mostly the same. Fluctuated week by week. No discernible difference. Which mirrors my unscientific knowledge that I can count on one hand the people I know who have actually died from it. I don't doubt that many have. But I don't count 99 year olds who were already in hospice.

Also, what other causes of death are we tracking? I'm really curious on heart disease. Also suicide. Also murders.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:10:37 PM EDT
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Bullshit numbers to keep the idiots and gullible in fear.
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:10:38 PM EDT
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not surprising.

What does suck is that I doubt we saved many lives by having all the mandatory lock downs.
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It sure doesn't sound like it.  I think we wrecked our economy for nothing.  (I know, I know,  the Never Trumpers will say it wasn't for nothing if it go rid of Trump).
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:11:23 PM EDT
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From or with?
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ALWAYS my question.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:13:55 PM EDT
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Well, at least medical mistakes aren't the 3rd leading cause of death in the US anymore, estimated by Johns Hopkins to be around 250,000 in 2018.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:15:26 PM EDT
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But we have zero deaths from flu, cancer, pneumonia, heart disease, etc, so it’s really not a big deal.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:18:02 PM EDT
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I do not believe the numbers.
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:20:00 PM EDT
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500k
Buuuuulllllshhhhiiiit.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:20:34 PM EDT
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I don't believe the numbers.
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This.  Covid is very politicized, so it's too tempting to fudge them.

"This guy got hit head-on by a bus, but the blood sample from the autopsy shows he had Covid, so add a tick mark!"
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:24:32 PM EDT
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So, corona virus doesn't have seasons?

We are just tracking totals since discovery?

Are we going to do this with all death related stats, or just this one?
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This.  How many influenza deaths have we had since inception?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:25:50 PM EDT
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Has the death rate changed from year to year?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:27:02 PM EDT
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ALWAYS my question.
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I asked my doctor, he said "turn off the TV and Social Media" if I think you are in danger then we'll deal with it, otherwise don't be stupid, eat clean, take your vitamins and go to work."
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:33:16 PM EDT
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But we probably had less deaths in 2020 overall from everything else. Amiright?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:36:22 PM EDT
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Biden's fault.
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Biden's fault.


Well, 1/5th of the US deaths did happen during the ~1 month he's been President.


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What were the numbers when Biden took office?


395,000
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:37:25 PM EDT
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At the rate we're moving I doubt we'll get to 600,000 deaths . . . maybe by fudging the numbers to keep the fear alive.

Our cases in GA have fallen off like a rock, we're back down to a 7-day moving average of ~2,000 positive cases.

I think if you were gonna get it, you've already gotten it by now.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:42:51 PM EDT
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Died from Covid or with Covid?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:43:12 PM EDT
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Funny that Cuomo is claiming that of the 14,000 deaths laid at his feet 98% of them would have died anyway.  So I guess the real total using Cuomo math is 1,000 or so.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:44:37 PM EDT
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At the rate we're moving I doubt we'll get to 600,000 deaths . . . maybe by fudging the numbers to keep the fear alive.

Our cases in GA have fallen off like a rock, we're back down to a 7-day moving average of ~2,000 positive cases.

I think if you were gonna get it, you've already gotten it by now.
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Part of the reason they're trying to reframe "herd immunity"

New cases in our state could be in the single digits and we'd still have idiots crying about "reeeeeee people are dying wear your mask its the new normal"

Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:49:25 PM EDT
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When have leftists ever lied before?  

What has been communism's toll per year over the last century?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:52:08 PM EDT
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Let me know when we have a real virus on our hands.

If I were playing Plague Inc,  I would have already lost.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:53:09 PM EDT
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But we have zero deaths from flu, cancer, pneumonia, heart disease, etc, so it's really not a big deal.
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That's not anywhere close to true.

https://usafacts.org/articles/top-causes-death-united-states-heart-disease-cancer-and-covid-19/
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:54:04 PM EDT
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The good news is no one has died from old age, cancer, or any other medical issues.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:55:01 PM EDT
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Bullshit figures for clueless idiots.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:55:19 PM EDT
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That means 1 in 700 people have died from covid-19 in this country. Lol NO
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:56:46 PM EDT
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So, corona virus doesn't have seasons?

We are just tracking totals since discovery?

Are we going to do this with all death related stats, or just this one?
This.  How many influenza deaths have we had since inception?



CDC showing a total of @1600 flu cases in USA since September 2020.

1600 TOTAL.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:57:04 PM EDT
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't believe it.

For example. The US has 1,540 deaths/million
Russia has 573/million even after they added a bunch recently. Keep in mind, their population is mostly in the cities- and believe it or not their testing capabilities are pretty robust...also remember their general health sucks (especially for the high risk older folks) and their healthcare sucks. Oh, and they didn't do anything besides encourage people to work from home and close the border.
Sweden is lower and didn't do shit.
Mexico is a shit hole with shitty medical care and theirs is lower too.
Turkey did very little and is at 331/million

Nope, I don't believe it for a second.
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Not that I believe any of the numbers but the United States is probably one of if not the most obese country in the world.

I thought I remember the number one predictor of a bad or negative outcome from covid was obesity and how fat  you are

Shit that's probably wrong now to though. I can't keep up with the ever changing BS
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:58:02 PM EDT
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Not that I believe any of the numbers but the United States is probably one of if not the most obese country in the world.

I thought I remember the number one predictor of a bad or negative outcome from covid was obesity and how far you are
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't believe it.

For example. The US has 1,540 deaths/million
Russia has 573/million even after they added a bunch recently. Keep in mind, their population is mostly in the cities- and believe it or not their testing capabilities are pretty robust...also remember their general health sucks (especially for the high risk older folks) and their healthcare sucks. Oh, and they didn't do anything besides encourage people to work from home and close the border.
Sweden is lower and didn't do shit.
Mexico is a shit hole with shitty medical care and theirs is lower too.
Turkey did very little and is at 331/million

Nope, I don't believe it for a second.



Not that I believe any of the numbers but the United States is probably one of if not the most obese country in the world.

I thought I remember the number one predictor of a bad or negative outcome from covid was obesity and how far you are



Yes, that is true and could account for SOME of the difference...still not buying that it would account for all of it though.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 4:59:25 PM EDT
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CDC showing a total of @1600 flu cases in USA since September 2020.

1600 TOTAL.
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So, corona virus doesn't have seasons?

We are just tracking totals since discovery?

Are we going to do this with all death related stats, or just this one?
This.  How many influenza deaths have we had since inception?



CDC showing a total of @1600 flu cases in USA since September 2020.

1600 TOTAL.
Lol.


But anyway I meant since flu started.

Since that is the way we track deaths now
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:00:29 PM EDT
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Yes, that is true and could account for SOME of the difference...still not buying that it would account for all of it though.
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't believe it.

For example. The US has 1,540 deaths/million
Russia has 573/million even after they added a bunch recently. Keep in mind, their population is mostly in the cities- and believe it or not their testing capabilities are pretty robust...also remember their general health sucks (especially for the high risk older folks) and their healthcare sucks. Oh, and they didn't do anything besides encourage people to work from home and close the border.
Sweden is lower and didn't do shit.
Mexico is a shit hole with shitty medical care and theirs is lower too.
Turkey did very little and is at 331/million

Nope, I don't believe it for a second.



Not that I believe any of the numbers but the United States is probably one of if not the most obese country in the world.

I thought I remember the number one predictor of a bad or negative outcome from covid was obesity and how far you are



Yes, that is true and could account for SOME of the difference...still not buying that it would account for all of it though.

 I wonder how many if that total already had a foot through deaths door and modern medicine in America was keeping them alive, probably a large segment
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:01:19 PM EDT
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CDC showing a total of @1600 flu cases in USA since September 2020.

1600 TOTAL.
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The flu can be controlled by vaccine, handwashing and PPE.

1600 is an amazing drop, though.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:03:20 PM EDT
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Why haven’t they released the 2020 total death stats? Is the number 400,000 higher than 2019? If not, why not?
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:07:41 PM EDT
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Analyzing medical death rate data over an eight-year period, Johns Hopkins patient safety experts have calculated that more than 250,000 deaths per year are due to medical error in the U.S.
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The news will never report on this, god only knows what the actual numbers are.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:12:27 PM EDT
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So, corona virus doesn't have seasons?

We are just tracking totals since discovery?

Are we going to do this with all death related stats, or just this one?
This.  How many influenza deaths have we had since inception?


What is this influenza of which you speak?

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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:18:01 PM EDT
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I don't believe the numbers.
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:18:51 PM EDT
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I don't believe the numbers.
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:22:45 PM EDT
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Biden virus.

Blood on his hands.

Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:31:29 PM EDT
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Deaths with or from...
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:33:45 PM EDT
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 I wonder how many if that total already had a foot through deaths door and modern medicine in America was keeping them alive, probably a large segment
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't believe it.

For example. The US has 1,540 deaths/million
Russia has 573/million even after they added a bunch recently. Keep in mind, their population is mostly in the cities- and believe it or not their testing capabilities are pretty robust...also remember their general health sucks (especially for the high risk older folks) and their healthcare sucks. Oh, and they didn't do anything besides encourage people to work from home and close the border.
Sweden is lower and didn't do shit.
Mexico is a shit hole with shitty medical care and theirs is lower too.
Turkey did very little and is at 331/million

Nope, I don't believe it for a second.



Not that I believe any of the numbers but the United States is probably one of if not the most obese country in the world.

I thought I remember the number one predictor of a bad or negative outcome from covid was obesity and how far you are



Yes, that is true and could account for SOME of the difference...still not buying that it would account for all of it though.

 I wonder how many if that total already had a foot through deaths door and modern medicine in America was keeping them alive, probably a large segment


I would guess so
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:35:33 PM EDT
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
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We are pretty good at keeping people alive even with multiple chronic conditions and overall shit health.  Covid finished some off.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:38:34 PM EDT
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We are pretty good at keeping people alive even with multiple chronic conditions and overall shit health.  Covid finished some off.
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There's absolutely no reason the US would have a higher death rate than other countries that either did nothing/little or about the same (lock downs in major metro centers). It makes absolutely zero sense.
I don't believe it.



We are pretty good at keeping people alive even with multiple chronic conditions and overall shit health.  Covid finished some off.



That's true, but I would think countries like....sweden and Germany are too.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:39:59 PM EDT
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Well, since the Flu, heart disease and other deaths went to zero, the overall US mortality rate is actually down to 2.8M from the previous 3 years at around 2.9M. Using logic we would conclude that Covid has had a positive effect and masks should go away immediately. BUT...now we know using logic and math are racists per Bill and Melinda Gates.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:56:59 PM EDT
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So the death rate increased 500,000 more than normal in the past 12 months in the USA ?

That's pretty bad.

If you believe it.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:58:23 PM EDT
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I saw the news story that a university study estimated 900,000 additional deaths caused by the response to COVID.
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Over the next 15 years.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 5:59:08 PM EDT
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yep its all to hide the transportation of white folks to the termination camps. the number is correct but its the guillotines that are doing the work, not some virus from china.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 6:02:06 PM EDT
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Fucking bullshit.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 6:02:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/22/2021 6:03:04 PM EDT
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Even at face value when you do the math the death percentage is very very small.
Link Posted: 2/22/2021 6:03:33 PM EDT
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Lives coulda' been saved if people would just worn a mask.


Link Posted: 2/22/2021 6:09:01 PM EDT
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And flu is way down... imagine that.  
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