UPDATE - Mistrial declared! Lindsay Clancy Killed her Kids - I’m having second thoughts. (Page 3 of 36)
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Originally Posted By leib109: There are millions of women who have postpartum depression or psychosis who manage to not brutally strangle their kids to death from behind so they don’t have to look at their faces while they’re doing it. Yep. And an extremely disturbing component of this subject has been all the women who have raised millions in her defense...from what I've read there appears to be a, "my body, my choice" component. I'd like to know of all the women who have contributed to that $$$$$ on her behalf, how many there are who support Massachusetts' and Maine's "abortion up to the date of birth" infanticide legislation. |
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Originally Posted By JamPo: Yes. It wasn’t a spasm of insanity. She planned the killings. Originally Posted By JamPo: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Originally Posted By MannyRibera: I’ve barely followed but there are a couple points I’ve seen that are damning. She sent the husband out on errands. That shows planning. There was only few drugs in her system, not the 31 being thrown out there. She is a nurse, so she should know better than a layman about her drugs. She is a useless fuck that is now an oxygen thief. Execution isn’t on the table so whatever. Taxpayers are on the hook for wheels for the rest of her shit life. Didn’t know that. Yes. It wasn’t a spasm of insanity. She planned the killings. Sometimes (probably every time?) Prison is worse than death... So maybe she will get dealt with in there? |
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If the doctors failed her then one could argue the government failed her by not having mental institutions. Then you can say the people failed her because we have not insisted that our tax dollars fund government run mental institutions. Or you can hold her accountable for her actions. That includes lying to psychiatrists. While there is some level of “if they fail, we’ve failed”, there is definitely a point where the failure is on the individual. We have strayed too far from individual responsibility. |
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Originally Posted By diesel1: I seem to recall that there is some sort of national database for pharmacists to check if someone is "scrip shopping". Originally Posted By diesel1: Originally Posted By Butternut: They (I dunno who - a couple doctors and/or nurse practitioners collectively?) had her on a gazillion different psych medicines all at once, and IMHO that had to be pulling her brain/mind in a dozen different directions at once. Not condoning evil murder or forgiving her in any way remotely, but I don't even know how she got dressed in the morning loaded with that many different and conflicting psychiatric medicines. I seem to recall that there is some sort of national database for pharmacists to check if someone is "scrip shopping". There is. That's what I was told by a pharmacist that lived next door. Another user here said that was only for narcotics though... I dunno. But everything is electronic now. Pharmacists and doctors can see everything you're prescribed at any time. If you go to the hospital they can see it too |
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Defense more or less stipulated to the killings. They wouldn't have done so if they, themselves, weren't absolutely convinced she did just that. Defense lawyers will argue over anything and everything, especially in a trial like this. Dude, if they are just going to say, yeah, she did it, but there are extenuating circumstances ... then, yeah, SHE was the one who killed the kids. |
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Originally Posted By EastWest: Yep. And an extremely disturbing component of this subject has been all the women who have raised millions in her defense...from what I've read there appears to be a, "my body, my choice" component. I'd like to know of all the women who have contributed to that $$$$$ on her behalf, how many there are who support Massachusetts and Maine's "abortion up to the date of birth" infanticide legislation. Originally Posted By EastWest: Originally Posted By leib109: There are millions of women who have postpartum depression or psychosis who manage to not brutally strangle their kids to death from behind so they don’t have to look at their faces while they’re doing it. Yep. And an extremely disturbing component of this subject has been all the women who have raised millions in her defense...from what I've read there appears to be a, "my body, my choice" component. I'd like to know of all the women who have contributed to that $$$$$ on her behalf, how many there are who support Massachusetts and Maine's "abortion up to the date of birth" infanticide legislation. I'm in ME. Don't get me started on this shit hole of a state. MA is worse (for now) but ME is catching up 
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Sure. The mental health care system is a joke and they likely mismanaged her and theres definitely a discussion to be had about that. However she killed her kids and left the husband behind to pick up all the pieces If a man with schizophrenia who has been failed by the mental Healthcare system went and r*ped multiple people, would the women currently protesting come out and in droves treating him like a victim and protest for mental Healthcare reform? Because I doubt it. Even though its pretty comparable to what they're doing with Lindsay. Its turned into some weird female solidarity thing. |
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Originally Posted By FVMC: I'm in ME. Don't get me started on this shit hole of a state. MA is worse (for now) but ME is catching up Originally Posted By FVMC: Originally Posted By EastWest: Originally Posted By leib109: There are millions of women who have postpartum depression or psychosis who manage to not brutally strangle their kids to death from behind so they don’t have to look at their faces while they’re doing it. Yep. And an extremely disturbing component of this subject has been all the women who have raised millions in her defense...from what I've read there appears to be a, "my body, my choice" component. I'd like to know of all the women who have contributed to that $$$$$ on her behalf, how many there are who support Massachusetts and Maine's "abortion up to the date of birth" infanticide legislation. I'm in ME. Don't get me started on this shit hole of a state. MA is worse (for now) but ME is catching up It's a terrible shame about your state. I have visited there with my parents on vacation as a kid, and have taken my wife and kids there. Last time was 1995. Beautiful country and seashore. Sad. |
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When his breath departs, he returns to the earth, on that very day his plans perish.
Psalms 145/146
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Originally Posted By EastWest: It's a terrible shame about your state. I have visited there with my parents on vacation as a kid, and have taken my wife and kids there. Last time was 1995. Beautiful country and seashore. Sad. Originally Posted By EastWest: Originally Posted By FVMC: Originally Posted By EastWest: Originally Posted By leib109: There are millions of women who have postpartum depression or psychosis who manage to not brutally strangle their kids to death from behind so they don’t have to look at their faces while they’re doing it. Yep. And an extremely disturbing component of this subject has been all the women who have raised millions in her defense...from what I've read there appears to be a, "my body, my choice" component. I'd like to know of all the women who have contributed to that $$$$$ on her behalf, how many there are who support Massachusetts and Maine's "abortion up to the date of birth" infanticide legislation. I'm in ME. Don't get me started on this shit hole of a state. MA is worse (for now) but ME is catching up It's a terrible shame about your state. I have visited there with my parents on vacation as a kid, and have taken my wife and kids there. Last time was 1995. Beautiful country and seashore. Sad. It used to be decent. (Besides the weather ~9 months a year) Then started turning hard left ~20 years ago. Greater Portland and Bangor are shit holes. They've even infested up north. Mostly out of staters that moved here. It's beyond fixable now 
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Originally Posted By taliv: her doctor and the pharmaceuticals should also be facing accessory or similar charges. That doesn't change the fact she is also guilty. Depression > suicide Evil > killing your kids and then suicide |
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Originally Posted By Kokodude: I say she gets the chair. But I'll be somewhat charitable in saying the "system" failed the kids by not taking them away from a mother on Quetiapine . No death penalty in Massachusetts Potential Trial Outcomes & Punishments First-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison without parole. Second-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison with the possibility of parole. Manslaughter: A maximum sentence of up to 20 years in prison. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity: Rather than prison, she would face indefinite commitment to a secure state psychiatric facility. Her confinement would be evaluated through regular court reviews, meaning she could remain hospitalized for life or eventually be released if deemed no longer a danger. My prediction is she will be going to a psychiatric facility and be released within 8-years. |
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Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5: Gee crazy people are sometimes mental as fuck and already taking serious medication to hopefully prevent them from doing something terrible. Never ever heard of that. And crazy / stupid people sometimes do things that aren't well reasoned like cripple themselves trying to escape? Amazing. This bitch is an insane murderer, it's nothing new. Lots and lots of people on the internet seem to identify with her and want to give her a pass and excuse her behavior. Originally Posted By 6EQUJ5: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Barely paid attention to the story, saw the posts here saying how evil she is/etc for killing her 3 kids. Without researching the case, I simply nodded my head, thought “dang she’s evil, hope she gets locked up forever”. Then I happened to catch a video going over the case and was shocked by the symptoms she was having months before she killed them, the various doctors involved, the multiple medications she was prescribed and the dosages. I also was unaware that she jumped from a balcony that night and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Thats all to say that I’m starting to think that theres a lot more people who should be answering for this. She was obviously having some sort of mental breakdown and those around her, including the doctors, failed her. Does GD know all this? PS-The online conspiracy theories about her husband killing the kids or setting her up are bullshit. Gee crazy people are sometimes mental as fuck and already taking serious medication to hopefully prevent them from doing something terrible. Never ever heard of that. And crazy / stupid people sometimes do things that aren't well reasoned like cripple themselves trying to escape? Amazing. This bitch is an insane murderer, it's nothing new. Lots and lots of people on the internet seem to identify with her and want to give her a pass and excuse her behavior. It will become the new test for men to ask women, "Do you stand with Lindsay?" |
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Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Where did you get that from? Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Originally Posted By Naffenea: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Barely paid attention to the story, saw the posts here saying how evil she is/etc for killing her 3 kids. Without researching the case, I simply nodded my head, thought “dang she’s evil, hope she gets locked up forever”. Then I happened to catch a video going over the case and was shocked by the symptoms she was having months before she killed them, the various doctors involved, the multiple medications she was prescribed and the dosages. I also was unaware that she jumped from a balcony that night and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Thats all to say that I’m starting to think that theres a lot more people who should be answering for this. She was obviously having some sort of mental breakdown and those around her, including the doctors, failed her. Does GD know all this? PS-The online conspiracy theories about her husband killing the kids or setting her up are bullshit. GD knows this. GD also knows you are advocating murdering children. There is nothing lower. Where did you get that from? A question is not a denial. You're obviously troll posting now. |
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Originally Posted By AR15Texan: No death penalty in Massachusetts Potential Trial Outcomes & Punishments First-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison without parole. Second-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison with the possibility of parole. Manslaughter: A maximum sentence of up to 20 years in prison. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity: Rather than prison, she would face indefinite commitment to a secure state psychiatric facility. Her confinement would be evaluated through regular court reviews, meaning she could remain hospitalized for life or eventually be released if deemed no longer a danger. My prediction is she will be going to a psychiatric facility and be released within 8-years. Originally Posted By AR15Texan: Originally Posted By Kokodude: I say she gets the chair. But I'll be somewhat charitable in saying the "system" failed the kids by not taking them away from a mother on Quetiapine . No death penalty in Massachusetts Potential Trial Outcomes & Punishments First-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison without parole. Second-Degree Murder: Mandatory life in prison with the possibility of parole. Manslaughter: A maximum sentence of up to 20 years in prison. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity: Rather than prison, she would face indefinite commitment to a secure state psychiatric facility. Her confinement would be evaluated through regular court reviews, meaning she could remain hospitalized for life or eventually be released if deemed no longer a danger. My prediction is she will be going to a psychiatric facility and be released within 8-years. Knowing MA, she (it?) Won't even get convicted of anything. It's a leftist shit hole. They will wait for this to die down then declare a mistrial or something similar |
| If she was a man suffering from ptsd who planned the murder of his children by sending the mom out on errands that would give him time to strangle them, no one would give a shit and would want him to pay for what he did. No mercy for child killers, feed her into a wood chipper feet first and God can sort it out later. Anyone who murders a child should receive a death penalty upon conviction regardless of their sex or mental state. There is just no excusing it. |
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Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Didn’t know that. Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Originally Posted By MannyRibera: I’ve barely followed but there are a couple points I’ve seen that are damning. She sent the husband out on errands. That shows planning. There was only few drugs in her system, not the 31 being thrown out there. She is a nurse, so she should know better than a layman about her drugs. She is a useless fuck that is now an oxygen thief. Execution isn’t on the table so whatever. Taxpayers are on the hook for wheels for the rest of her shit life. Didn’t know that. And apparently, in the middle of killing her kids, she stopped and texted with hubby to get him to go to another stop to lengthen the time he'd be away. The thing for me is, I can't get the thought of the absolute terror that went through the minds of those innocent kids. Personally I don't think there is anything more innocent than a young child. I have an immediate and absolute rage against anyone who would willingly harm a young child in any way. I feel the same about anyone who would mistreat a pet. I get there are people with mental issues and instability, the brain is a very complex thing, but to me, it doesn't matter. As noted, she wasn't on the 30 or whatever count it is drugs all at once. They said she was on two at the time. She planned and killed those kids is a way that they suffered, it wasn't instant or quick. She is a monster that doesn't deserve to keep sucking oxygen. |
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Originally Posted By L_JE: At issue is going to be her understanding or right and wrong. That she, herself, was self destructive, that doesn't excuse [bar from criminal punishment] what was, arguably, uncontrollable behavior. A lot of people may have failed her, but she didn't just fail to take care of her children - she killed them. One by one, she killed them. Did any of the doctors/therapists note psychosis? I haven't seen that they had. Rage, anger, self-harm, that's not psychosis. Killing your children? The oldest was 5 or 6. I can't imagine the horror they would have felt. People suffering from psychosis, a psychotic break from reality, the very few that I've been around, my question is, "Deep down, does he really know that this is all a lie, a coping mechanism?" That sits across a huge chasm from "not psychosis noted/observed." If she was in a psychotic state at the time of the murders, then she likely would not be culpable, or, “not guilty by reason of insanity” under the law. Glad I’m not on the jury to have to make that determination. Hope they reach the truth and the appropriate verdict. If I were aware of reality after committing such an atrocity, regardless of psychosis at the time of the act, I would probably consider it a tremendous mercy to be executed. What a horror this case is. |
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Originally Posted By Butternut: They (I dunno who - a couple doctors and/or nurse practitioners collectively?) had her on a gazillion different psych medicines all at once, and IMHO that had to be pulling her brain/mind in a dozen different directions at once. Not condoning evil murder or forgiving her in any way remotely, but I don't even know how she got dressed in the morning loaded with that many different and conflicting psychiatric medicines. From what I heard, she has a history of a bunch of meds over time, but she wasn't on all of them all at once. They said she was only using two at the time. The claim about the voice telling her to do it has been debunked by the experts. She only heard it that day and not since or prior. It's BS, an attempt to get the insanity deal. |
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Originally Posted By LFLS84: Second thoughts about what exactly? Originally Posted By LFLS84: Second thoughts about what exactly? Originally Posted By LightSwitch: That she was simply an evil bitch that killed her kids without any additional context. Situation sucks - but she's still guilty as sin and won't be able to be integrated back into society. |
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Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: ... If a man with schizophrenia who has been failed by the mental Healthcare system went and r*ped multiple people, would the women currently protesting come out and in droves treating him like a victim and protest for mental Healthcare reform? ... Is there something wrong using the word 'raped'? Everytime I see it in print these days it is intentionally altered. |
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Originally Posted By Echd: You can have a bad life and have bad things happen to you and still be capable of doing irredeemably evil shit that regardless of your temporary mental state means you should be dragged behind an 18 wheeler until you're a smear on the pavement. FPNI damn that is uncanny, |
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Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Hmmm. Can you hold a person going through some serious mental health episode responsible for managing their own care? And where the fuck was the husband? Ain’t no way he should have let his wife and mother of the kids spiral like that in the house. Did he not notice or go to doc visits? If it was me, theres no way I’d let her continue with the symptoms and doc hopping, getting prescriptions with no resolution or not monitoring her taking meds. Unless she wasn't acting all fucked up or crazy around hubby...oh, it's mild depression, post partum depression, nothing to worry about. Or maybe she wasn't really psycho at all. Yeah, there's a list of meds..but did she really take them all? They said in the news she had two in her system at the time. She didn't seem fucked up on the day of the deed either. She seemed like she had it together enough to plan it, and get hubby out of the house so she could do the deed. I don't by the suicide BS either. She jumped off the second story and all the wounds on her neck and wrists were superficial. She's probably sad that she broke her back and is paralyzed, probably wasn't really counting on getting that hurt. And the "voice" that told her to do it, seems the experts all testified it sounds like BS. She only heard it that day and not since (so she claimed), the docs said it doesn't work that way. Doing the deed doesn't make the voice go away if she was, in fact, as mentally ill as she claims. I know many say she needs to get the needle, but that would be an easy way out for her. She needs to sit in a prison cell the rest of her life and let her think about and remember what she did to those innocent little kids until she dies, or another inmate does the same to her. There are some offenders that I think need to be ended ASAP, and some that need to sit and stew in their own mind. |
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Originally Posted By FVMC: It used to be decent. (Besides the weather ~9 months a year) Then started turning hard left ~20 years ago. Greater Portland and Bangor are shit holes. They've even infested up north. Mostly out of staters that moved here. It's beyond fixable now Florida enters the chat... |
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Originally Posted By LightSwitch: That she was simply an evil bitch that killed her kids without any additional context. WGAF? Demon bitch chased her kids around the house to strangle them. They knew they were running for their lives. She killed them in the most personal, intimate way. Why she was not dealt immediate terrestrial justice upon discovery is beyond me. |
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Originally Posted By FVMC: Knowing MA, she (it?) Won't even get convicted of anything. It's a leftist shit hole. They will wait for this to die down then declare a mistrial or something similar LOL. If that happens I'm drilling third holes in everything I own because seriously "why not." |
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Originally Posted By taliv: her doctor and the pharmaceuticals should also be facing accessory or similar charges. That doesn’t change the fact she is also guilty. Depression —> suicide Evil —> killing your kids and then suicide This. She's guilty. She followed instructions/compulsions to kill, she had the option to not do it. She wanted just one kid and was overwhelmed and the crying with the hallucination of "Kill em.. Kill em all", if real, could have been ignored and she could have called 911 to keep her children safe from her until she got the hallucinations under control. Just like hypnosis, you won't do something you wouldn't ordinarily do, even if you have a perfect excuse. She should have been afraid of the instructions to kill and gone to a hospital for help after having a relative or even the hospital watch her kids to keep them safe. She's now paralyzed and has no kids, remove fertility and reduced sentence. Besides, it seems to me that All women have Bipolar Disorder, the definition should just be "Female". TL;DR She should have behaved the same way as she would if a stranger walked into her house and started telling her to do violence and kill herself. She instead engineered it so the bodies would be all pretty instead of found days later and mushy closed casket. |
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This whole thing is a tragic dumpster fire. The more layers you peel off, the more you feel utterly crushed emotionally. 3 small children, systematically strangled to death, and one did put up a fervent fight, but ultimately was hunted down and overpowered. There is a timeline, that will take a Nancy Grace deep dive to flesh out. I have my theory, and it is utterly abject of any humanity. The statutes of limitations don't really expire for certain acts. But to strangle/choke a bitch out takes a certain level of commitment. To take it all the way, especially with a small person, your own child is a whole nother level of commitment. I have done some compliance moves outside of approved best practices and in a different life prior to any legally binding litigation. Even with a size factor. You are going to get WORKED. NOW do it repeatedly and claim the Devils made me do it, and so spectacularly fuck up your own "suicide attempt", bitch please. My opinion that nobody asked for, super evil, Casey Anthony, TEMU version 2.0. Oh, there was that little nugget that somehow escaped into the wild. All 3, face down from behind. I don't hold any degree in higher education, but somehow I can connect a dot or two out of thin air and come to a rational conclusion. Where in that mentality somehow someone even in a heinous act was so ashamed of their actions they couldn't even bare the thought of looking their vicim(s) in the eye as they extinguished their flame. If life was that troublesome, send dad to Baskins and Robbins with the kids and just dissappear. Nope, life today is all about the clicks. How tragic it must be to live an anonymous life as an example to strive to emulate, but be totally faceless. Rant off. Yeah I know I'll catch heat. Sometimes shit just need saying even if I'm not the kindest messenger... |
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Originally Posted By FVMC: You can't do that nowadays. Everything is electronic. The pharmacy wouldn't let you fill it. Also, all doctors have the same database. They can see what you're prescribed, when it was prescribed and by whom it was prescribed. It's some national network Seroquel is an evil fucking drug, and some of these others are dangerous when not taken as prescribed. Had one here- Mom killed the toddler and tried to kill the baby. Dad stopped her. She got a long sentence. When we pulled the little girl out of the cooler for autopsy, I opened the bag.. and a fucking tear rolled down her face. Never saw anything like that before or since.Fuck that crippled bitch. |
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Originally Posted By junker46: Is there something wrong using the word 'raped'? Everytime I see it in print these days it is intentionally altered. It’s a no no word on the social media platforms that will get you locked or banned so people have reflexively started misspelling it everywhere or using vague descriptions like “unaliving” yourself instead of saying suicide. Avoids the algorithm censors. I dated a single mom with a very recently newborn once. She was severely unstable due to a slew of issues. I think she was borderline and had severe anxiety. If it’d had been bipolar or schizophrenia she’d have been institutionalized or living on the streets level issues. One of the two “never stick your dick in crazy” chicks I’ve been with that were fucking me more than I was fucking them. She once told me she would never harm her child but she understood the level of stress that drove women to snuff out their kids. She blocked me on social media after we broke up but I have no doubt she has sent money and supports this woman. |
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Originally Posted By Naffenea: Literally every post you are making is advocating murdering children and trying to hide behind "it just seems off, ya know?" Originally Posted By Naffenea: Originally Posted By LightSwitch: Where did you get that from? Literally every post you are making is advocating murdering children and trying to hide behind "it just seems off, ya know?" What seems "off" is someone reading something into a post that no one else found concerning. Gotta wonder how and why one's mind would put that "spin" on something. Maybe it's one of those projection things like "I think about kiling kids so you must be thinking the same." A whole bunch of "WTF?" there. |
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Originally Posted By BoneB1B: She planned and executed the murders pretty effectively for a crazy person.. Crazy doesn't mean "stupid". The mental defect that causes them to do bizarre things may also focus their mind on planning and executing (very appropriate in this case) heinous crimes. |
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Yes, I also believe that this horrific event is an indictment of BIG PHARMA and the Healthcare industry as a whole. Some individuals of which should be held to account. HOWEVER, if Lindsey Clancy was at the end of her rope, ALL she needed to do was drop the kids off at a fire station, an emergency room, a church, even a random neighbor or nearby 7-11 and tell people she was going to kill the children if they didn’t take them. THAT would have triggered an intervention that would have at least prevented the children from being strangled to death by their own mother, that day. She could have also locked the children in a bathroom, dialed 911 and THEN tried to kill herself. That would have been a more sympathetic alternative as well. She wasn’t some third world woman with no resources and no hope. She was a spoiled American brat, hoped-up on prescription drugs because life wasn’t everything she was told it would be. In an unimaginable way, something even more disturbing is the hundreds, maybe thousands of other American Brats who are shouting their support for her and sympathize with her actions. She IS guilty of murdering her own children in one of the most horrific ways imaginable. Those kids were looking into their mother’s eyes, suffocating, as she slowly throttled the life out of their helpless bodies. They is no question of her guilt. The ONLY question is of her LEGAL responsibility for her guilt. No verdict changes that. What should happen to her? IDK. She is a defective Human being, likely miswired from the factory. I wouldn’t care if she rotted in prison but I’m not sure that does any good. She can’t be rehabilitated. It’s not really a deterrent for other deranged people. Her punishment will be greater than any Court or prison can impose upon her. Lock her up in a psych-ward? Whatever. Either way, I don’t care what happens to her. Just keep her locked away from the rest of us for the rest of her pitiful life. Unfortunately, regardless of the outcome of this trial, it is VERY likely that one day she will be released back among us. |
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