For anyone that's been following the topic of UFO disclosure, the last few years have seen more official statements regarding the topic that range from an acknowledgement of a multi governmental cover up (via backchannel communication lines) to acknowledgement that we are not alone. Pentagon officials Chris Mellon and Luis Elizondo are at the forefront of this disclosure effort and Elizondo has made some notable statements recently in a series of podcast outreaches to the general public which are listed below. Edit: Several additional documented sources of information have been added to the end of this entry and these are a recommended read.

TLDR: The UFOs aren't ours, we have their crafts, at times the past present and future overlap and there isn't always an even transition between them, there are other species that have been present here that experience reality in a fundamentally different way than we do and there is an interdimensional component to this, human consciousness isn't confined to the body and the body is just a life support system that carries the consciousness for a set amount of time, Elizondo has handlers that ensure the information he gives out stays within certain parameters.

That UFO Podcast (2/1/2021): https://audioboom.com/posts/7788135-episode-27-luis-elizondo

Lue states he's doing these podcasts because there's a media blitz he's involved with and this is part of phase 2 to reach everybody. They just need us having the conversation and it's happening.

1) He's working on a new project with the Lakota tribe and references their oral history being consistent with what we are witnessing today. 2) senior govt officials are making fake accounts to monitor the public discourse on ufo twitter 3) he keeps alluding it to being an intelligence operation with phases and they're moving onto phase 2 the international cooperation phase 4) in reference to Chris Mellon saying "it's not foreign or ours", Lue agrees to this and says basically you can't give people the information all at the same time because they will choke on it. He said it's been here for awhile it's not ours and we have to exercise caution with giving out the information to the public. 5) he said we may be led to some surprisingly simple answers 6) The interviewer brought up Lue's quote on "what if it wasn't mankind but it's mankinds". Lue struggles to answer this. He says we live in a 3D world where time is a function of the fourth dimension where time is a linear process. Space and time are joint. Spacetime is flexible. He says the linear universe we experience isn't actually linear. He gives the example of an electron: initially we are taught it revolves around the atom, now we know about the electron cloud where it's both present and not present in the same area at any given time. The present is a moment in spacetime where the future is transitioning into the past. He uses a cigarette as an example: the future is the unburned part and the burnt part is the past. The burning area is the present. That's how we experience it, the infinitesimally small burning area. WHAT IF there are things that can experience a larger part of the present than we can. What if there's a SPECIES OUT THERE that can experience the universe with an extra level of dimension. Meaning more elements of the future and past are experienced in the present. He gives the example of him being there having the ability to have that same conversation he's presently having 5 minutes before then or 5 minutes after it. He alludes to the possibility of these UAP not being experienced/seen by us because we aren't intersecting with their dimension at particular points in time. 7) he says with the example of the cigarette burning there's an uneven burn, and this translates to our past present and future intersecting and overlapping unevenly at points. 8) mankinds: the possibilities are limitless, every time we put a limitation on nature it displays there aren't limits. 9) we need to be cautious how we define life. He says life 'out there' might be fairly abundant. 10) when the interviewer asks lue a few questions at the end, he asks, "is it mankind or mankinds", lue turns the question back at the interviewer who states "Mankinds plural", lue says he would go with Mankinds also. This is Elizondo explicitly stating yet again there are other humans out there, and this goes exactly with what Bigelow recently stated in a George Knapp interview that he believes there are ETs, hybrids, and others that look like humans that are right here walking among us. This dovetails also with a Russian general stating the same thing to a reporter live on video (referenced below)

He states disclosure is a process and we are in the middle of this right now. It's the recognition that the earth isn't the center of the solar system and we are in the throes of realizing this fact (humans aren't alone) There's a lot of opportunity with this

Astronaut states aliens may be here: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/uk/helen-sharman-aliens-exist-scli-scn-gbr-intl/index.html

Russian prime minister Dmitriy Medvedev states aliens walk among us:

https://youtu.be/dPigVM7mpAo
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/08/russian-premier-jokes-aliens/1755717/

Fade to Black Radio (2/2/2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPYFQaJe3g
Lue: "I've seen data indicating uap interfere with uap strike capability both defense and offense In Russia it's brought the nuclear capabilities online and here it's turned them offline.

Interviewer says it's the most important statement in human history when Eric Davis briefed the Senate saying we have flying saucers. Interviewer asks Lue if it's true and Lue says it's true "Eric Davis doesn' lie" and then eventually says it's basically true.

2:08:20 interviewer asks "have you ever seen a ufo" Lue said he saw a lot of them because it was his job. Interviewer asks if he's seen one 'out' as a private citizen (while he was out in public not on government time) and he said he will answer it next time. He says he wants to present the information in a neutral manner with no personal bias or experiences introduced, just the facts. (Basically he's saying he saw UFOs while at work, meaning the government is in possession of multiple full UFOs or has many photos/videos of them.)

Elizondo says the UAP can go 13,000 mph in our atmosphere.

Elizondo describes ancient Roman battlefield observations of UFOs that looked like flaming shields that followed the soldiers from battlefield to battlefield.

The same observables we observe now are all there in accounts of UAPs from the middle ages, Roman times, pre recorded history of the indigenous people.

2:15:23 Interviewer: "is the tic tac not of this Earth"? Lue responds: "Is the tic tac us or foreign adversary technology the answer is no. Is it from this Earth we don't know. We don't know if they're from outer space inner space or in between. There's a whole reality around us that we don't interact with and we are only now starting to explore quantum states. All these realities are part of the natural environment which we just don't perceive. We are very limited as a species in 3 dimensional space with time as an aspect of the fourth dimension expressed in a linear fashion for us. That's not to say there's not other things all around us. We can only experience the universe through 5 senses, yet we know that we can only perceive 1% of 1% of the universe that's around us. Most of the universe remains completely invisible to us, I don't mean the universe out there, I mean the universe right here (our personal surroundings). We know less than 5% about our deepest oceans we don't have an understanding of what lives on our own planet let alone anywhere else. It's foolhardy for us to say definitively "the buck stops with us, if we can't see it then it doesn't exist", it's clearly not true".

Lue: We look at the world through a very narrow electromagnetic spectrum and that's just a sliver of what's really out there.

We look at everything in terms of on or off and the universe doesn't work in that way.

2:21 he insinuates there is backchannel communications between countries regarding UAPs. He then states that he hopes this topic forces enemy governments to become friends to work together to discuss this topic and work together.

2:25 the ships and submarines have nuclear technology which is what the UAP are interested in and they are conducting surveillance on our nuclear capabilities.

2:26 the uap are 100% not ours and absolutely not a test of our own technology on our carrier groups and anyone who says that doesn't know how the government works

2:29 interviewer asks him what he's working on, and he says a permanent solution because UAPs are a persistent problem. A persistent capability is needed to address a persistent problem. He and Chris Mellon are part of a long term effort and TTSA has its own separate mission.

2:32 he maintains his DoD contacts and this effort is about helping the government do the job it's supposed to do and it's a coordinated effort.

2:35 the interviewer basically asks him if he has a government handler. Lue says they contact him frequently "I get texts all the time" regarding keeping within certain parameters with what he's saying from "the man" aka the government. Lue is basically saying he has a government handler.

Project Unity (2/3/2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpi0YXboDQM
33:50 - interviewer asks "have you been warned by the govt to not discuss specific things" 33:14 - 34:30 lue basically says yes he has been warned by government affiliates (handlers) and he has to report regularly to security advisors.

38:50 - 40 : if people are abducted, that's kidnapping. We shouldn't be trusting of another external advanced species. We need to approach this cautiously.

He doesn't think these are "necessarily a threat"

41:33- interviewer asks "is a tic tac with it's surrounding field able to be susceptible to weapons- the theory is that if the warp field around the uap is strong enough it could create a white hole artificial event horizon that prevents anything from penetrating. This means more advanced weapons being developed are already ineffective against them. Does it mean we need to develop more advanced technology against the threats presented by the operators of UAPs."... Elizondo says if that's out there then it does present a threat especially if other countries get that technology

45- interviewer says there were practicing members of the occult that started NASA from the American side and from the Nazis during Operation Paperclip where the Nazis were brought over.

46:50- elizondo states there were always organizations and groups that influenced our country like the Freemasons and that wasn't a bad thing. The Freemasons aren't a bad force. There's a long deep rich history of all countries being influenced by outside groups that have specific agendas. It's not just NASA it's other institutions even the military there's symbolism in everything we have from the dollar bill to the flag.

51:58- Elizondo: the body itself doesn't define who we are as human beings. It's a life support mechanism for what's inside like a space ship. If you look at each brain, the brain has a lot of commonalities. That doesn't define what each human being is. There's another aspect, a soul, that is an indelible part of a human being that isn't contained within the body or the mind. Human consciousness is a quantum process and it could very well be that our brains are quantum computers and there may be a fundamental part of human beings that is not locked into a three dimensional world and that isn't a linear function of time.

57:20- Interviewer mentions the infamous slide 9 and Lue says it's true. This is notable. Edit: slide 9 can be found here: https://mindsublime.blogspot.com/2020/01/advanced-aerospace-threat-and.html?m=1

59- the interviewer asks if some of these sightings are psychological warfare being conducted against our own troops. Luis said these sightings aren't any form of warfare conducted by the US.

1:03:15- the interviewer said he used nonlocal consciousness to establish contact with some aspect of the phenomenon. He would visualize coherent thoughts and project them out into space outside at night (CE5). He began to see orbs at certain intervals. He said on Aug 25 2019 he witnessed a dark staticky cloud coming over his house then do a 90 degree change of course. The cloud then vanished and inside the cloud was a clear orange formation of orbs and it eventually vanished. He's seen them on three other occasions. He asks lue about the nexus between consciousness and quantum mechanics and the ability to exchange information over large ranges of distance. Lue said he's not surprised he's had those experiences he's spoken to many people including the pilots who have been affected profoundly to trying to pursue this topic after witnessing UAP activity.

We are witnessing a multi year government mediated disclosure effort that is giving us startling information at a slow rate to make it easier for the public to marinate on. This coincides with the official rollout of the Space Force and most likely new technology derived from extraterrestrial sources.

Here are some other interesting sources that have released information that dovetails with what Elizondo has said:

Robert Bigelow, CEO of Bigelow Aerospace and US defense contractor has been heavily associated with US DoD research into UFOs. He makes several remarkable statements in this interview that include 1) the phenomenon in the region of skinwalker ranch has been there for millennia and is intelligent, connected to UFOs (they appear there), and interdimensional. 2) crashed UFOs may have been intentionally left by ETs for us to try and reverse engineer 3) the ET presence has been here and there are likely ETs and hybrids that look like us and that are present among us:

https://youtu.be/9Sv66dG6Ldc
Below: (1) and (2) delve into Bigelow's previously released interviews, while (3) delves into part II of his recently released full interview:

(1) Multiple paranormal phenomena are linked to the UFO phenomenon: interviews from Bigelow and Eric Davis (PhD verified working for the DoD's UFO research program): https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/l3syr8/multiple_paranormal_phenomena_are_connected_to/

(2) This post describes part of Bigelow's interview with George Knapp: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/l3gbsa/robert_bigelow_interview_with_george_knapp/

(3) Most recent interview (Part II) https://youtu.be/9Sv66dG6Ldc
20:30 onwards - you need a weightless manufacturing environment to manufacture the UFO metamaterials

22:20 onwards - we are a galactic embarrassment. We may not even be able to operate the machinery because it's consciousness driven. "We have studied Psy and phenomenology where some people can have an effect on micro PK and macro PK events and they're not supposed to be able to do that" . Bigelow is indicating here that the government has studied and verified that trained people can move objects via thought alone.

23:50 onwards- we still have the potential to turn these technologies into weapons (because we are mentally primitive).

24:50- if you were a species on another planet and had this (advanced) technology you would not give it to us

43:30 the brain and mind are separate. The brain is physical and the mind isnt. The brain can cease functioning but the mind continues. The mind is amorphous, it's outside the physical container. We think in terms of structure, that space has a limitation of distance and that there is such a thing as time. Neither of which he believes. "Time and space are infinite. What is the container for the mind? The brain is dead, but how can people in near death experiences describe things that happened when they're dead. They should have no access to the information."

53:15 onwards- Bigelow discusses physical apparitions that can be touched and felt. He states to Knapp that there are individuals they both know (DoD associated individuals) that have personally touched and felt these apparitions with significant controls (experimental controls).

1:09:40- the ETs are hybrids or look alike and could actually be among us. He says to follow the literature and the discarnate entities from skinwalker ranch are absolutely among us

USAF Colonel Dedrickson confirming UFOs exist and nuclear detonations interfere with their ability to fly: https://youtu.be/BncRHgBXeGw
Head of Israeli Defense Ministry's space directorate Haim Eshed states ETs are real: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/weird-news/former-israeli-space-security-chief-says-extraterrestrials-exist-trump-knows-n1250333

Soviet airforce Colonel Marina Popovich's book (released in 2003) detailing UFOs and containing information on the non Earth origins of their isotopic ratios:

https://itexts.net/avtor-marina-mihaylovna-popovich/271794-nlo-nad-planetoy-zemlya-marina-popovich/read/page-2.html

USAF general Steven L Kwast claims we have extremely advanced space technology: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31445/recently-retired-usaf-general-makes-eyebrow-raising-claims-about-advanced-space-technology

Edit: To those questioning Elizondo's credentials, read these: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html

https://www.newsweek.com/pentagon-lot-more-classified-ufo-videos-ex-head-secret-government-program-1517003

Paul Hellyer:

Former Canadian Minister of Defense-

TLDR: mirrors what Elizondo has said, but Hellyer has been stating this for years. There are different species of aliens present here, some of these extraterrestrials look human and others don't, there are other humans out in the universe, there's been an increase in activity since humanity started using atomic weapons, there is a galactic federation that doesn't want to involve us because we are too primitive, the extraterrestrials want us to get our act together.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/former-canadian-defence-minister-paul-hellyer-says-aliens-205829262.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer
Brazilian Air Force:

Operation Prato- operation undertaken by the Brazilian Air Force to study heightened close range UFO activity in the Brazilian state of Para. This is extremely extensive and there are interviews with several separate verified commanders within the Brazilian Air Force which are referenced in this article (highly recommended to read, the scope of the incidents is extensive and very convincing): https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Prato
Colonel Uyrangê Hollanda- gave an interview about Operation Prato regarding a very heightened period of UFO activity that occured in the Brazilian Amazon.

https://youtu.be/qawjwWyIUMk
This is a summary: UFOs appeared to be studying the area and appeared with regularity along their own linear flight paths spanning hundreds of miles. The UFOs appeared to respond in a semi aggressive fashion after humans started shooting at the crafts (bullets and fireworks on different occasions). The UFOs would immobilize/slow down the people with a narrow green beam then give them a small burn with a narrow red beam. (My own opinion: the green beam interacts with the body's own electrical signals and affects the central nervous system). One man died from coming too close to a UFO due to the radiation from the craft. There were 9 separate types of UFOs recorded. 4 films 500 photographs and all are classified.

At 11:35 he describes the UFO he witnessed with military colleagues (30m in diameter, 200m in the air, disk, black, with a small yellow/amber light in the center). The craft brightened and emitted a yellow light then dimmed and repeated this 5 times. The craft then shut off the yellow emanating light, the small amber light in the center changed to blue, and the craft flew East (over the Atlantic). 13:40- he describes the noise coming from the craft as the pulsating sound emitted from an air conditioning unit. A second lesser sound emanating clearly from the craft was like the sound of pedaling a bicycle backwards.

15:46- he was directed to go to a site where a UFO was spotted outside of Belem. A UFO appeared and appeared different relative to his last sighting, it had a green/red light and a turbine type sound different from the previous UFO.

17:08- another one was witnessed with a yellow/amber colored light in the shape of an orb "sun" passed over tree level and over the river. He states the reflection was seen on the water and a "track" was left on the water (my opinion: not sure if that would be from air displacement or the levitating ability of the orb itself)

18:40- him and the other military personnel camped out at the river that night and witnessed another strongly lit orb "sun" much larger than the previous one. It got to where they were, switched off the light, and an object the size of an American football was there in its place. It moved slowly towards them and it had an amber light. When it came over them the light shut off and it resumed the shape of a large bright translucent orb 100m long and it had windows. The windows were lit up and along the center. After passing overhead it disappeared. He remarks it had the same pulsating deep sound of an air conditioner with the reverse bicycle brakes simultaneously.

21:44- the object reappeared at 1:30am the same night. It was a large bright orb "sun" emanating a beautiful blue light heading in the direction of Belem at tree level then it stopped and came towards them. The intensity of the light was extremely bright but didn't affect their eyes. It stopped in front of them and the light switched off after 3 minutes. In its place there was again the American Football shaped craft in a vertical position 70m in front of them and this craft was immense such that they had to bend their necks to look at the top of it. It stayed in that position for 3-5 minutes (didn't make any sound) and began going upwards. A green light appeared at the lower side and a red light at the top and these were blinking as the craft was going up slowly. It elevated to 1000m-1500m (estimated by the Air Force personnel witnessing the event). There was then a large blast (like thunder) and a flash and the object accelerated off with immense speed into the sky.

This is a well sourced research article documenting convincing UFO cases spanning from pre-Roman times up till the present: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342347097_Aliens_and_UFOs Note that there are commonalities in all of these cases which include orbs, craft shapes, yellow/amber/blue emanating lights, etc.

Several countries have declassified documentation they have collected regarding UFO cases. These are Spain's for example (in PDF form): https://bibliotecavirtual.defensa.gob.es/BVMDefensa/i18n/consulta/resultados_ocr.do

Chinese Foreign Ministry official Sun Shili- says extraterrestrials are already here and live among us:

https://youtu.be/Tfwh376S_30
13:58- "here on Earth there is the presence of beings from other planets. Some even work among us. Notably, our goal is the same as these beings. Today's Earth has undergone significant pollution and the environment, the human environment, both inner and outer, is affected."

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/01/11/world/beijing-journal-a-ufo-boom-doesn-t-worry-china-s-rulers.html Https://rense.com/general27/for.htm

Ok so this is possibly the most interesting interview as to why the Pentagon has released UFO footage and is classifying UFOs as a potential threat. This individual is stating the US will label UFOs as a threat in order to increase defense spending, and this interview is from 2013:

Lachezar Filipov (Prof. Lachezar Filipov, Deputy Director of Sciences at the Bulgarian Space Research Institute) - states there will be an intentional move by the US to increase space related defense spending on the level of the proposed 1980s Strategic Defense Initiative (colloquially termed the "Star Wars Program": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative ... See the section labeled Space Based Programs- it seems the current Space Force may include aspects that are a continuation of this). He took this stance after hearing this information from the president of the French Aeronautical and Astronautical Association (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_A%C3%A9ronautique_et_Astronautique_de_France) and from this official organization: (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe_d'%C3%A9tudes_et_d'informations_sur_les_ph%C3%A9nom%C3%A8nes_a%C3%A9rospatiaux_non_identifi%C3%A9s)

This interview is from 2013 (or earlier) so it's interesting to note what he's predicted looks like it's happening:

https://youtu.be/Tfwh376S_30

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I got carpal tunnel from scrolling to the bottom of that mess

Can you move the thread here,  https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/UFO-and-Creatures-Of-Legend/192/

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Now just do this one thing for me, read the article over again, just one more time, and if you really truly don't agree with everything in it, then fine, I'll retire from my job with the railroad and we'll call the whole thing off and just go dancing, just the two of use, me (the writer) and you (a completely random crazy person who has actually read down this far), and boy won't we turn heads when we show up at Rockefeller Center with the entire Donner Party in tow! We'll dance all night to strains of the Lemon Pipers while the Italian 12th Armored Division prevents the Allies from thrusting into our rear! Ah, what memories we'll make, I'll never forget you, my completely insane random person. By the way this is magnificent example of wall of text. You have to be proud you read it all.

Only UFO I give a shit about.

I thought there was a character limit.

I know WTF ?

[caddyshack carl]oh he got all of that one![/caddyshack carl]

I have a hard time taking Elizondo seriously due to his tats and facial hair. He looks like a "Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives" understudy

The fact that anything is "here" at all blows my mind.  We take so much for granted each day.  Our jobs, sports teams, husbands/wives/children, all keep our minds occupied and leave a bit of room in there for music, fishing, and shooting.  But really, the fact that any of it exists at all.  Planets, the Sun and Moon, space, stars.  If you go out tonight and look up at the sky for 30 minutes and completely clear your mind....just stare and wonder.  Literally everything we do, is just so insignificant in the reality of it all.

thanks for the short concise synopsis

ill have to take a vacation day at work to read all that.  however I am very interested in this

Sweet there's only been 50 UFO threads in the last couple weeks.

In!!!!!

Topic Moved

I think I died attempting to wade through those posts OP.

That post, though long, is well worth the read.  Fascinating stuff.

If I can find it,  I awoke from a dream and started jotting things down related to this.  It didn’t really make sense at the time. It was about five years ago. Ill try to find it.

Found it in my notepad.  I woke up out of a dead sleep one night, jotted this down, and went back to bed.







My handwriting sucks:

All planes overlap
Humans perceive every plane as an interpretation- EM as lightning, Ether as ghosts, ufos, demons
It requires great energy to change planes
Humans & life is 99.80% matter, .10% energy, .10 ether.
Birth & Death are a window.
The Nehili, were deamons breeding in the material world. The angels destroyed them with the flood.
The demons manifest as aliens masquerading, breeding a secret army.
Armaggedon is the change.
Nuclear weapons damage all planes, it opened a rift between planes.
Procreation only happens on the matter plane. The energy plane atrophies.
Genesis  - 7 non consecutive days.

I read every word you pussies.

That ability to transcend time mentioned in the TLDR all of it post is basically like that Amy Adams movie
“arrival” I think it was.

Interesting OP.  One of the videos says "account terminated".

https://youtu.be/qawjwWyIUMk
This is a summary: UFOs appeared to be studying the area and appeared with regularity along their own linear flight paths spanning hundreds of miles. The UFOs appeared to respond in a semi aggressive fashion after humans started shooting at the crafts (bullets and fireworks on different occasions). The UFOs would immobilize/slow down the people with a narrow green beam then give them a small burn with a narrow red beam. (My own opinion: the green beam interacts with the body's own electrical signals and affects the central nervous system). One man died from coming too close to a UFO due to the radiation from the craft. There were 9 separate types of UFOs recorded. 4 films 500 photographs and all are classified.

Interesting, subscribed.

20+ years of listening to Art Bell piqued my interest.  

I don’t know what’s worse. The fact that I read the entire thing and even checked out a link and will check out more. Or the fact that I enjoyed it. I can verify the UFOS are more than interested in our nuclear weapons programs and are keeping a very watchful eye on them.

TLDR....tagged for later

Having listened to multiple interviews/podcasts, it's obvious that Mellon and Elizondo know more than they can share. If you read between the lines, you can gather info that's probably classified and that they're unable to directly address. When questioned about these beings/craft coming from another planet and simply traversing space to arrive at Earth, they both routinely bring up an alternative scenario where these craft and beings are interdimensional. It's more complex than just ETs with flying saucers from another planet light years away. Which is pretty fascinating and would corroborate the "portals" Bigelow and his team of scientists observed at Skinwalker Ranch

Why is the U.S. seemingly taking the lead on all things UFO?  If the U.S. has an alien spacecraft in their possession, I have to think so too do counties like Russia and China due to the size of each country. What is stopping them from doing some real disclosure such as allowing the media to view an alien ship or bodies?  Or if the U.S. says in some report they have no UFO’s and in response China shows that the U.S. is lying.  It would be a great deflector for China right now with the whole origin of the Corona virus.

Also you hear about supposed UFO crashes in other countries like Brazil and such.  Why aren’t they just coming and saying, “Yes they are real.  Here is a ship that crashed.”  Seriously it’s as if the U.S. has complete control over the dissemination of UFO information, even when it comes to countries that are open enemies or aren’t the best of friends with us (i.e. China).

It makes you wonder.

I am not buying any of that.

I have seen something I can't explain and have posted about it, but this so called disclosure I don't believe. I think it is a distraction for some reason.

If they really are disclosing this stuff they way is stuff still classified?

If any of this is on the up and up then just data dump the whole damn thing and stop playing games.

The way this is being played leads me to believe it is bullshit.

The report supposedly plays coy too.  Not ours, not another country.  Just a mystery.

The last half you wrote... I recently read something like that, clicking around, in a bit more depth.

Magicians use magic wands and attractive assistants to hide the mechanics of their illusions.

That’s interesting, have a link by chance?

Gosh dang I wish Art could be around for all of this!

@LueElizondo explains why UFOs can only be extraterrestrial https://t.co/ZPZhrMojOv

THE PHENOMENON  (@PhenomenonMovie) June 5, 2021

I don't think the text of the tweet accurately describes the video, but Elizondo makes some compelling points.

4000 mph and turn on a dime. That would be some brutal g-forces.

That document he has saying that the “tic-tac” has been tracked by the US military since 1950. Wow.

Every first world nation is investigating.  The French had a report way back in 2001 that was calling it "Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon" so "UAP" isn't a new thing coined by the US.

Every nation in the world with advanced radar and military planes have encountered strange things in the sky and the majority of them have created a department to study it.  Some are a loosely kept secret, some aren't.

You could be right but it's possible they aren't lying when they say there's so much information, they can't dump it all at once.

The issue seems to be extremely complex, which requires divulging the information in steps to get people accustomed to it.  Imagine if 70+ years of secrets were suddenly dumped on the public and it truly changed everything we thought we knew about reality... how many people could easily absorb and understand all that's being divulged?  We have a large number of members here who think anything they don't understand is the work of the devil so I certainly understand a slow roll of information.  Most people have about a 5th grade level of scientific knowledge and some aren't even that developed.

Step 1 seems to be acknowledging that yes, they're actual objects and not easily explained away.  That alone will take some time for people to accept.

I imagine the next steps will be explaining what is currently known about how they operate and potentially where they came from.

After that is absorbed, they can get to explaining what they know about their purpose here, if they have a clue.

If we're actually talking about multiple species of ET/alternate realities or dinensions/etc... that's going to take a lot of 'splainin for the average Joe and plenty will still say "it's the devil!" or "it's all a lie!" no matter what.

Solid post.

I like how these threads often contain posts by long-term members with low post counts.  Just an observation.  Personally, I think it is really cool.

How much better he would be to listen on the subject than george snorey!

tic tac hotline



Now onto something more on subject, they say tic tacs go back to 1950 or so.  What about the “foo fighters” of WWII?   I don’t buy that those sighting were a Nazi weapon like this
Attached File

Or weather balloons.  

Some of these Nazi secret weapons maybe based off the above launcher were supposed to disperse a chemical in the bomber formation that would clog up the air intakes on the bomber engines.  Causing them to lose power and crash.  

But still that doesn’t seem to match the small number of accounts of foo fighters seen.  
I wonder if anyone has submitted FOIA request from USAAF debriefings and intel reports on foo fighters?   A good one with the correct terminology- that’s now seen to be the big thing is giving them precise words or terms to look up.  Not generalities.

The US govt has been 'leaking' this shit since 1947

how long are they going to do little pieces here and there?

'They want us to get our act together'

Ya, that means; one-world government, no liberty, no guns, no armies, total equilibrium without societal 'classes' and no individual excellence in anything. You know, what Biden and the commies want. So if you're ready for that, turn in your guns, your man card and burn the flag - you won't be part of the resistance.
Hey, if the ETs are really the 'secret government/deep state', it sure would explain a lot, wouldn't it?

IF aliens are here they would have no interest in conquering us.  If they wanted to take over they could have done it centuries ago.  What would humanity bring to the table for a species that can cross the galaxy or jump dimensions?  Nothing.  This is all a government psyop.