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Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:54:41 PM EDT
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It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.
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Playing on simpletons to convince them to not support Ukraine… and to side with the country of communism, mass murder, rape, starvation… and using their religion as a means to do it. Good old Cucker Tarlson

You do realize that the Ukraine was communist for exactly the same time as Russia, yes?  It’s almost like nobody is taught history any more. You might want to read up on the events of 1917.


That argument makes no sense in the context of this discussion.   They no longer want to be part of that mess.    Doesn’t matter if you want to call it “Communism” or “Fascism” or “Putinism”.      They are willing to fight and die to escape it.



It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.


Those people are long Dead now.    They got free of it, and they are fighting to Keep free of it.    It makes no more sense than calling Americans “Redcoats”.  
Fwiw, Putin’s government is Nazi style Fascism.  There’s nothing good there to be supporting.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:54:48 PM EDT
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Based on how upset the bros are, I guess money to Ukraine is about to dry up.
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So since the United States once had legalized slavery, we are still currently a country of slave owners?
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It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.


So since the United States once had legalized slavery, we are still currently a country of slave owners?

No slave owners anymore. Point out the communism in either Russia or Ukraine? Retarded metaphor is retarded.
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Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:56:22 PM EDT
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Is Zelensky a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or a Dictator?

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No. No, he is not. Was there supposed to be a point there?
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:57:26 PM EDT
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Obviously, He's a "Globohomo".   The simpletons always focus on Zelensky.     He's just one man.   It's not about him, or Biden.  
It's Millions of people fighting to be free from an objectively Evil master.
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The nerve of Z to ask for weapons to defend his country that's currently under invasion!

It's like the Putin guys would also blame a rape victim pleading for help from male bystanders in the middle of the crime.

Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:58:28 PM EDT
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Nah man, he's a Jew but the ADL recently said Azov battalion isn't antisemitic so he's clean on the Nazi front.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:58:33 PM EDT
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Can people here take off the binders and use some common sense???

You think Xiden is gonna lavish that shitstain of Zelenski all these dollar bills w/o expecting something in return?

The same way, here in America, the globalists and commie Chyna got into the pockets of our politicians to remove God from our country and turn .gov into our god - (per Tucker) same appears to be going on in Ukraine..

Like Tucker said, the propaganda machine has even rural, Right leaning Americans hanging Ukraine flags - as if something is in a fucking Kool Aid....where no matter how much proof of the grifting that's being exposed, its "boo-boo, nanannaa, I don't wanna hear it"

Geesh
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:58:38 PM EDT
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Russia is an authoritarian/totalitarian dictatorship, just as it was when it was the USSR.

Are Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, East Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, etc, all authoritarian/totalitarian dictatorships, just as they were when they were part of the USSR?
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:58:44 PM EDT
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From primary Ukrainian media sources, they published that they banned Russian churches, for spreading pro-Russian propaganda during the time of war.  The ban doesn’t affect Ukrainian orthodox churches, catholics, baptists, rodnover, or anyone else.  People who think democracy and freedom flourishes while foreign troops occupy your land, bombs are falling on your cities, and thousands are being put into mass graves are delusional.  FOX news being included on that list.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 1:59:35 PM EDT
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This ^^

Just like CBS coming out with the Hunter Biden stories....

The timing is perfect, after the grift has completed and the dust is settling...

Wake up people....

Geesh
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:00:59 PM EDT
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Those people are long Dead now.    They got free of it, and they are fighting to Keep free of it.    It makes no more sense than calling Americans “Redcoats”.  
Fwiw, Putin’s government is Nazi style Fascism.  There’s nothing good there to be supporting.
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Playing on simpletons to convince them to not support Ukraine… and to side with the country of communism, mass murder, rape, starvation… and using their religion as a means to do it. Good old Cucker Tarlson

You do realize that the Ukraine was communist for exactly the same time as Russia, yes?  It’s almost like nobody is taught history any more. You might want to read up on the events of 1917.


That argument makes no sense in the context of this discussion.   They no longer want to be part of that mess.    Doesn’t matter if you want to call it “Communism” or “Fascism” or “Putinism”.      They are willing to fight and die to escape it.



It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.


Those people are long Dead now.    They got free of it, and they are fighting to Keep free of it.    It makes no more sense than calling Americans “Redcoats”.  
Fwiw, Putin’s government is Nazi style Fascism.  There’s nothing good there to be supporting.


Fair enough, however, my point is that this whole "killing commies" thing is rather stupid 30+ years after the fall of the Soviet Union and just as moronic as the "global homo" nonsense from the other side.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:01:10 PM EDT
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No. No, he is not. Was there supposed to be a point there?
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No. No, he is not. Was there supposed to be a point there?


He's a grifter...where grifters shape-shift to be able to manipulate their victims.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:01:46 PM EDT
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The nerve of Z to ask for weapons to defend his country that's currently under invasion!

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I remember an old story about a rape in NYC, in the hall of some apartment or something, and the neighbors all ignored it. I've long thought that these people bashing aid to Ukraine are exactly like those neighbors. I still think it would be amusing to post a poll in GD to ask how many people think those neighbors did nothing wrong.
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Replace Russian Orthodox with Jews and see the reaction
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Its straight up propaganda.   He's not dumb.   He's being deliberately deceptive.
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Once you realize a talking head is lying to you purposefully you've got to ask yourself what else he was lying about.

I realized that about Tucker a long time ago, he's pretty slick about it but he's often deliberately deceptive.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:04:10 PM EDT
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No slave owners anymore. Point out the communism in either Russia or Ukraine? Retarded metaphor is retarded.
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It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.


So since the United States once had legalized slavery, we are still currently a country of slave owners?

No slave owners anymore. Point out the communism in either Russia or Ukraine? Retarded metaphor is retarded.

Russia Lays Groundwork For Nationalizing Foreign Companies Amid Fallout From Ukraine War

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A History of President Putin's Campaign to Re-Nationalize Industry and the Implications for Russian Reform and Foreign Policy
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Why, is Israel bombing Kiev?
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?
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Only one side is waving SOVIET flags. Which one is it? Ukraine or russia? Do you know?
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:04:54 PM EDT
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That wasn't one of the options. I'd ask for evidence of grift, but I know none is available.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:05:22 PM EDT
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It’s nostalgic fun.  Being pedantic about it is like when Marxist academics argue the the Soviet Union wasn’t actually PURE communism.

It’s pointless.


We call people Commies all the time.  Russians who put e for the USSR, invade their neighbors while flying the flag of the USSR, and operate a police state are ripe candidates for the label.
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?


It’s nostalgic fun.  Being pedantic about it is like when Marxist academics argue the the Soviet Union wasn’t actually PURE communism.

It’s pointless.


We call people Commies all the time.  Russians who put e for the USSR, invade their neighbors while flying the flag of the USSR, and operate a police state are ripe candidates for the label.

No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:05:22 PM EDT
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lol at all these cuckraine lunatics here, where did you all come from?
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But why would a good Orthodox Christian like Zelensky want to do something like that??? Oh what's that? He's not a Christian? Well what is he then??? Oh....
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Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:06:56 PM EDT
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You ain’t too smart are ya?  

Sounds like wishful thinking.  
Would you like to place a place a small wager?     I say money to Ukraine will continue for at least a year.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:08:50 PM EDT
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Only one side is waving SOVIET flags. Which one is it? Ukraine or russia? Do you know?
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?


@NavyDoc1

Only one side is waving SOVIET flags. Which one is it? Ukraine or russia? Do you know?


Look at all those American troops flyhing Confederate flags in myh post above.
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The entire US was never Confederate.

The entire nation of Russia was Soviet.
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So was the Ukraine.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:09:51 PM EDT
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No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.
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There are retarded people on this site who believe patently ridiculous Russian propaganda when it's repeated by the right sources.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:10:34 PM EDT
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You ain’t too smart are ya?  

Sounds like wishful thinking.  
Would you like to place a place a small wager?     I say money to Ukraine will continue for at least a year.
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Based on how upset the bros are, I guess money to Ukraine is about to dry up.


You ain’t too smart are ya?  

Sounds like wishful thinking.  
Would you like to place a place a small wager?     I say money to Ukraine will continue for at least a year.


Clearly, any criticism of Ukraine is Russian propaganda.
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There are retarded people on this site who believe patently ridiculous Russian propaganda when it's repeated by the right sources.
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No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.

There are retarded people on this site who believe patently ridiculous Russian propaganda when it's repeated by the right sources.

ANd also retarded people who believe Ukrainian and DNC propaganda whenever they see it as well.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:12:27 PM EDT
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You ain't too smart are ya?  

Sounds like wishful thinking.  
Would you like to place a place a small wager?     I say money to Ukraine will continue for at least a year.
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You ain't too smart are ya?  

Sounds like wishful thinking.  
Would you like to place a place a small wager?     I say money to Ukraine will continue for at least a year.

I'd just point out that a large chunk of "money" sent to Ukraine is actually military hardware.

Trump and his bullshit turn THE party of Russia hawks into Russia guys.
Fucking bizzaro world.
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:12:27 PM EDT
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Tucker is the modern day Tokyo Rose, Hanoi Jane or Lord Haw-Haw


A one man propaganda machine on the wrong side of history.    It’s sad to see how easily people are fooled.
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Not to join the discussion on why GD all of a sudden hates TC. But.

This right here is a RED FLAG of DU proportions.....


"on the wrong side of history"
LOL
Link Posted: 12/10/2022 2:12:43 PM EDT
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Tucker is the right’s Bill Mahr. While I agree with him on somethings and he has a good delivery, he is a shill and he used to work for CNN iirc.
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ANd also retarded people who believe Ukrainian and DNC propaganda whenever they see it as well.
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Amen. BTW, what russian propaganda? All russian outlets are suppressed. Fucktards here man i tell you.
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Nope.  You’re being a pedantic spoil-sport.

In Iraq, when you heard the Lance Corporals refer insurgents as “Hadji” or “Muj,” did you correct them and say,

“Actually fellas, those terms refer to an older man who made the “haj” and members of the Mujahadin. These Iraqis are technically neither.”
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?


It’s nostalgic fun.  Being pedantic about it is like when Marxist academics argue the the Soviet Union wasn’t actually PURE communism.

It’s pointless.


We call people Commies all the time.  Russians who put e for the USSR, invade their neighbors while flying the flag of the USSR, and operate a police state are ripe candidates for the label.

No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.

Nope.  You’re being a pedantic spoil-sport.

In Iraq, when you heard the Lance Corporals refer insurgents as “Hadji” or “Muj,” did you correct them and say,

“Actually fellas, those terms refer to an older man who made the “haj” and members of the Mujahadin. These Iraqis are technically neither.”


Bullshit.

I find it fascinating how nonsense on one side of the issue is perfectly acceptable but nonsense on the other is horrific when both sides have quite a bit of utter nonsese.
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It absolutely makes sense.  When someone says they are “fighting commies” I think it perfectly logical to point out the salient fact that the Ukrainians were part of the revolution and were communist from 1917 to the fall of the Soviet Union—just like Russia.  What makes no sense is the idea that Russia is still “commie” and Ukraine is somehow magically not when they have the exact same history of communism.

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Putin literally has described the break up of the Soviet Union as the greatest tragedy of RUSSIA, and has stated his desire to "Get the Band Back Together" (& he doesn't care if they don't want to play with him or not).

The States that Broke Away & declared their independence such Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, have all described being freed from Communist Domination from Moscow as Freedom.   Being forced into a union dominated by Putin from Moscow would be every bit as exploitative with "citizens" arrested for such crimes as "calling the Special Military Operation a 'War' ".    

Irony is that those Russian Shills actively Root'n for Putin are the very people he'd imprison for daring to criticize the Government or any of it's policies & especially for suggesting armed resistance to such policies in any way.  

Boogaloo?  
To Gulag with You!!

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Not to join the discussion on why GD all of a sudden hates TC. But.

This right here is a RED FLAG of DU proportions.....


"on the wrong side of history"
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A one man propaganda machine on the wrong side of history.    It’s sad to see how easily people are fooled.

Not to join the discussion on why GD all of a sudden hates TC. But.

This right here is a RED FLAG of DU proportions.....


"on the wrong side of history"
LOL


TC isn't supporting the latest thing, I guess.
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So... Ukraine seized the foreign assets of their enemy at a time of war. Shocker!

Guess you missed in the last link that that's a research paper from 2008 on Putin's nationalizing industries, a tad before festivities kicked off in 2022.
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Not at all, just pointing out that if your definition of commie was nationalizatrion in the time of stress, the Ukranians were doing it before Putin.  

In time of absolute war, there is going to be nationalization, either directly or indirectly. FDR did it in the US.  Both the Ukraine and and Russia are doing it now. Makes no sense that one side is "commie" for doing it and another is not when they are doing the same things. By your definition both Ukraine and Russia are currently communist states. You can't have it both ways
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No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.
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Certainly, but you must admit that this "killing commie" cold war nonsense is just that. Yes?


It’s nostalgic fun.  Being pedantic about it is like when Marxist academics argue the the Soviet Union wasn’t actually PURE communism.

It’s pointless.


We call people Commies all the time.  Russians who put e for the USSR, invade their neighbors while flying the flag of the USSR, and operate a police state are ripe candidates for the label.

No it isn't. There are retarded people on this very site who think we are actually killing commies just like there are retarded people on this very site who think Putin is resisting a global homosexual conspiracy and both sides are equally sincere in their idiocy.


This is one of those rare conflicts, where there’s a Very clear delineation between the Good guys and the Bad guys.   Russia has been objectively evil since Stalin’s era, and, they are once again showing their true colors.    Arguing over the semantics of what to call them?    It’s just silly.
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I wonder how many people here realize that there are no good guys? Ukraine isn't good, and Russia isn't good. Kinda like USSR in WW2, only in WW2, Russia was worse than Germany.

Too many people fawning over Ukraine, not realizing they are as corrupt as Biden and his regime are.
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