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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:19:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Shouldn’t be anyone representing him in a “post-presidential impeachment” trial, because such a procedure would be extralegal.
I other words, such a “trial” would just be theater, so it’d probably be Rep. Schitt representing Trump. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:19:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted: When he was Impeached the first time, he had Pat Cipollone representing him, in his role as the White House Counsel. The White House Counsel is NOT a personal attorney, but rather represents the office of the President. He is a government employee. So who represents “President Trump” in a post-term Impeachment? A public defender? Let the Dims destroy themselves doing a sham impeachment. In fact let the Turtle vote for it as well. Doesn't matter as a few R senators are talking about flipping Democrat or caucusing with them so they can keep their committee chairs (Romney and Murkowski). |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:06:56 AM EDT
[#3]
If this actually happens, I can imagine that he can have any attorney that he wants representing him. Why would it be anything else?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:20:03 AM EDT
[#4]
Did he defend himself in the house the second time?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:20:57 AM EDT
[#5]
Pretty sure his options will be lim wood or Sydney powell
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:59:59 PM EDT
[#6]
A trial in the Senate is probably unconstitutional, but there are legal types arguing the nuances right now, mainly about what is not written in the Constitution on impeachment.
The House can do all the jacking around it wants, if it wants to make a useless point for the long run. 'The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law." |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:04:23 PM EDT
[#7]
I wonder if he could sue the Senate for wrongful prosecution? (or whatever it is called)
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:04:33 PM EDT
[#8]
Biden* is certifiably insane if doesn't stop the Impeachment trial train in its tracks. How is anyone going to pay attention to him and his agenda when the focus is still on Trump?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:06:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden* is certifiably insane if doesn't stop the Impeachment trial train in its tracks. How is anyone going to pay attention to him and his agenda when the focus is still on Trump? Unless they want the flashy distraction while they sneak things through in the middle of the night. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden* is certifiably insane if doesn't stop the Impeachment trial train in its tracks. How is anyone going to pay attention to him and his agenda when the focus is still on Trump? Maybe that's the plan |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:07:10 PM EDT
[#11]
How can you impeach a man who is not president?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:09:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A trial in the Senate is probably unconstitutional, but there are legal types arguing the nuances right now, mainly about what is not written in the Constitution on impeachment. The House can do all the jacking around it wants, if it wants to make a useless point for the long run. 'The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present. Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law." |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:10:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this actually happens, I can imagine that he can have any attorney that he wants representing him. Why would it be anything else? Because if this was a Constitutional Impeachment, he would be represented by the White House Counsel. Sure, he CAN get anyone. But he should be using his White House resources as President. Oh wait... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:11:47 PM EDT
[#14]
The only good thing is they’ll expend a lot of capital on the sham.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:15:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The only good thing is they'll expend a lot of capital on the sham. That's two months where they're not getting anything else done and pissing people off. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:22:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you impeach a man who is not president? He was already impeached. The senate trial is to remove from office and/or bar from future office. Holding the trial after he left office is unconstitutional but we live in a post constitutional society. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:37:19 PM EDT
[#17]
That’s like getting fired AFTER you retire . How is that even possible
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:50:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Impeachment = Slowing Down Biden's Agenda. If fact, Mitch could spend the next 4 years on the Impeachment trial.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:48:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you impeach a man who is not president? For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:51:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How can you impeach a man who is not president? For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. Where? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:57:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where? I'm curious as well, and he did not resign. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:01:24 PM EDT
[#22]
Impeachement is the only way to punish a sitting president.
How can you impeach someone who is not a sitting president ? WTF |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:05:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Impeachment = Slowing Down Biden's Agenda. If fact, Mitch could spend the next 4 years on the Impeachment trial. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:08:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Biden* is certifiably insane if doesn't stop the Impeachment trial train in its tracks. How is anyone going to pay attention to him and his agenda when the focus is still on Trump? That’s what is going on behind the scenes. Trump doesn’t want the trial, and Biden doesn’t want the distraction. As long as Trump disappears quietly into civilian life, they both get what they want. My analysis, anyway. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:12:57 PM EDT
[#25]
A trial cannot move forward since peach mints is only for someone holding public office, like Xiden for instance
SCOTUS should throw the case out |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:41:04 PM EDT
[#26]
If they can go after ex-president Trump, than the Speaker of the House can go after any ex-president.
And if that’s the case, any Speaker (or ex-Speaker) of the House can be held responsible for NOT going after an ex-president. This would keep Carter, W, Clinton,and FBHO on the ‘ol chopping block. And that’s not happening. In short, it’s dead Jim. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:42:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Trump should represent himself. We could pay off the national debt if it were on pay per view.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:44:57 PM EDT
[#28]
Shouldn't be allowed since he is no longer president...should we start impeaching and convicting candidates before they are elected to disqualify them? I am sure the dems would like to do that....
Dumb |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:22:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Judge Joe Brown got this.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:32:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Alan Dershowitz has opined that a post presidential impeachment is unconstitutional.
Trump should represent himself if it comes up and use his time to outline the evidence against the Deep State to get it on the record. Maybe read excerpts from Hunter Biden laptop indicating Biden Crime Family corruption in Ukraine, then point out that the FIB had this laptop in December 2019 but said nothing about it during impeachment part 1. Close with " it is an honor to be impeached by the likes of a congress such as this." And drop the mic and walk out the door. And, P.S., the NYT apparently came out with a story acknowledging that the violence at the Capitol was planned in advance of the event by Outsiders who acted independently of trump and communicated with each other in real time during the event. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:40:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Since you impeach a president and not a private citizen, if the Senate goes through with it Bidet will be out of a job.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:49:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Trial by combat.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 5:22:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let the Dims destroy themselves doing a sham impeachment. In fact let the Turtle vote for it as well. Doesn't matter as a few R senators are talking about flipping Democrat or caucusing with them so they can keep their committee chairs (Romney and Murkowski). We need to put Cocaine Mitch in a position where his Republican senators have to declare themselves. Then we can primary them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 5:29:12 PM EDT
[#34]
He should walk in to the senate trial turn around drop trou and say kiss my orange ass you corrupt mother fuckers.
Then he should invite his supporters to clean up the corruption through all legal means. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 5:37:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he defend himself in the house the second time? You serious Clark? There's no defense allowed in a kangaroo court. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:09:04 PM EDT
[#36]
You can not be impeached as a US Citizen.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:13:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they can go after ex-president Trump, than the Speaker of the House can go after any ex-president. And if that’s the case, any Speaker (or ex-Speaker) of the House can be held responsible for NOT going after an ex-president. This would keep Carter, W, Clinton,and FBHO on the ‘ol chopping block. And that’s not happening. In short, it’s dead Jim. The precedent from the 19th century, shortly after the civil war, was that the senate actually voted on this exact issue, as the secretary of war had resigned to avoid impeachment. He was technically out of office, but congress voted that they did, in fact, maintain jurisdiction. He was a private citizen who was impeached, but then acquitted by the senate. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#38]
The senate will get a voice vote, Schumer will deem and pass it, convicting Trump.
Before the Republicans can object, the democrats will hit the fire alarms screaming and running around that they are under attack from right wingers. Adjourn to next week, and then call it settled law. (That’s what happened two weeks ago) Put nothing past them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:32:01 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If they can go after ex-president Trump, than the Speaker of the House can go after any ex-president. And if that’s the case, any Speaker (or ex-Speaker) of the House can be held responsible for NOT going after an ex-president. This would keep Carter, W, Clinton,and FBHO on the ‘ol chopping block. And that’s not happening. In short, it’s dead Jim. Nonsense. It's a great idea. We should go after all previous presidents, starting with Martin Van Buren. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:35:50 PM EDT
[#40]
So if he can be impeached after he's out of office for crimes committed while in office, can't he issue pardons after he's out of office for crimes committed while he was in office?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:37:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. There are interpretations for this; but there isn’t case law for this. Please tell me which president was convicted after he left office. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:38:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The senate will get a voice vote, Schumer will deem and pass it, convicting Trump. Before the Republicans can object, the democrats will hit the fire alarms screaming and running around that they are under attack from right wingers. Adjourn to next week, and then call it settled law. (That’s what happened two weeks ago) Put nothing past them. Two-thirds vote required to convict in the senate. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:42:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The precedent from the 19th century, shortly after the civil war, was that the senate actually voted on this exact issue, as the secretary of war had resigned to avoid impeachment. He was technically out of office, but congress voted that they did, in fact, maintain jurisdiction. He was a private citizen who was impeached, but then acquitted by the senate. Just because they did it doesn’t make it legal. BTW, where in the Constitution does it say anything about impeaching the Secretary of War? Is it before the Presidential impeachment clause or after? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:43:30 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he defend himself in the house the second time? Against what? They offered no evidence, just voted. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:52:19 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How can you impeach a man who is not president? For crimes committed while they were President. This isn't rocket surgery, and there's case law for impeachments after a position was resigned. Go on ... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:53:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Thinking that SCOTUS would stop this if it were to land in their laps is wishful thinking.
Anybody paying attention knows Roberts is compromised. Just takes one more fearful for their lives, their families lives or riots by left wing nut jobs. That precedence has already been set...Scalia. This could be a first in future case law reference. The left has been bold in this last decade. Don't doubt any options that exist. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:57:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe that's the plan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Biden* is certifiably insane if doesn't stop the Impeachment trial train in its tracks. How is anyone going to pay attention to him and his agenda when the focus is still on Trump? Maybe that's the plan If they feel like he crossed a line . . . go forward with it (when has illegality of an action stopped them in the past?). |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 6:59:05 PM EDT
[#48]
Unity.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you impeach a man who is not president? Commies. they hate rules and history. Precendents. Adhoc best hoc. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 7:05:30 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Impeachment = Slowing Down Biden's Agenda. If fact, Mitch could spend the next 4 years on the Impeachment trial. 
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