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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:02:56 AM EDT
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Track
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:08:57 AM EDT
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Supporting a ground force (Apaches), North up. Flying instruments, Track/heading up.
ETA: If it’s Point A to Point B like when I flew Chinooks, Heading up with a track ball reference. For all Attack/Recon flying in the Apache I use North up. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:17:59 AM EDT
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Supporting a ground force (Apaches), North up. Flying instruments, Track/heading up. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 4:58:46 AM EDT
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Both. Track up on the aircraft display, other on the IPad. (Usually North up)
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:07:44 AM EDT
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North up, always. Better situational awareness in my opinion.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:09:03 AM EDT
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Supporting a ground force (Apaches), North up. Flying instruments, Track/heading up.  
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Posted: 2/15/2020 7:19:46 AM EDT
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Track up, but remember that airports and diagrams are depicted north up. That caused me some confusion in my early days when pulling up diagrams on the 430/530.
Also, when approaching an airport to land, use the HSI/CDO and the OBS button if you're flying a 430/530. Dial in your preferred runway for an extended centerline to help situational awareness for your approach. If multiple parallel runways, dial in the localizer. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:16:18 AM EDT
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North up, always. Better situational awareness in my opinion. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:18:19 AM EDT
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Depends on the situation. Most of the time, north up.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 8:43:53 AM EDT
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On a moving map, north up, always.
With paper charts, oriented to direction like I do when on the ground with a topo map. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:16:44 AM EDT
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Short answer: track up.
TLDR: in my context, which is VFR helicopter operations and using Garmin Pilot, - With the Garmin vector charts, track up 99% of the time - With a sectional chart, track up 75% of the time, north up 25% of the time Give or take. Rarely if ever do I find either method disorienting, but if I do it's two pokes at the screen and it changes. More normally it's about reading something on the sectional that's hard to read upside down. Conversely, the traffic overlay on the display is more intuitive to me in track up mode. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:34:27 AM EDT
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Either works just fine for me. But, some systems only show things, like xm weather, in north up. And in the wtf were they thinking department, in a falcon EZ if you’re in track up, and then scroll the map, it automatically switches to north up. Holy shit that’s annoying! On approaches I use track up, so that the direction of the map matches the approach chart. But in any event I can function just fine in either mode.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:05:38 AM EDT
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Since when do Apaches fly instruments? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Supporting a ground force (Apaches), North up. Flying instruments, Track/heading up. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know... I suck at it, too. I love how the FVL guys can tell you how much HP the next gen UH60 will have in 2035, but can't tell you if it'll be RNAV certified. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 12:29:32 PM EDT
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Until they decommission the last NDBs you'll be good. I love how the FVL guys can tell you how much HP the next gen UH60 will have in 2035, but can't tell you if it'll be RNAV certified. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I know... I suck at it, too. I love how the FVL guys can tell you how much HP the next gen UH60 will have in 2035, but can't tell you if it'll be RNAV certified. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 1:11:09 PM EDT
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Until they decommission the last NDBs you'll be good. I love how the FVL guys can tell you how much HP the next gen UH60 will have in 2035, but can't tell you if it'll be RNAV certified. Yeah, RNAV is coming soon... 
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Posted: 2/15/2020 4:39:42 PM EDT
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If it's mounted on the dash, track up.
If it's a moving map next to me, North up. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:20:17 PM EDT
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If it's mounted on the dash, track up. If it's a moving map next to me, North up. Navs screens and iPads are north up. Pilots in panel displays are track up. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:36:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Navs screens and iPads are north up. Pilots in panel displays are track up. My iPad in the steam gauge Archer is yoke mounted and it is north up. I will be moving to a G1000 equipped DA40 in the next year and I can see how the PFD should be track if there is a map inset. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 5:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PFD track, MFD north? My iPad in the steam gauge Archer is yoke mounted and it is north up. I will be moving to a G1000 equipped DA40 in the next year and I can see how the PFD should be track if there is a map inset. Moving maps in the panel make more sense to be track up to align with the HSI. I have never flown a non steam GA plane so I’m not really familiar! That stuff came along after. For your type of VFR flying I usually use north up on an iPad. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 9:44:19 PM EDT
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Both. I usually prefer track, so the real world looks like the map; though I do go north up ocasionally to orient myself. I still visualize the world north up in my head (from maps). I bet in 20-30 years there will be less north up.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:26:28 PM EDT
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Millions of hours have been flown in almost every airliner and corporate airplane for decades track up.
It's simple, it works, and it's very easy to learn how to do in about three minutes. |
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Posted: 2/15/2020 10:58:40 PM EDT
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I have my iPad North up but Garmin GNS 430Ws map Track Up. Always.
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Posted: 2/15/2020 11:08:31 PM EDT
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In reality I just yell at the navigator! Which way, NAV?
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Posted: 2/16/2020 8:59:04 AM EDT
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Both. I usually prefer track, so the real world looks like the map; though I do go north up ocasionally to orient myself. I still visualize the world north up in my head (from maps). I bet in 20-30 years there will be less north up. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 2:00:41 PM EDT
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If it's mounted on the dash, track up. If it's a moving map next to me, North up. |
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Posted: 2/16/2020 3:32:57 PM EDT
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I have my iPad North up but Garmin GNS 430Ws map Track Up. Always. |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 1:43:02 AM EDT
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If it's mounted on the dash, track up. If it's a moving map next to me, North up. Every so often, I'll wind up using a different nav page in the Garmin that is set to North up...but pretty rarely. |
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