Tomorrow, I wake up to fire 4 people. (Page 1 of 4)
Posted: Yesterday 9:18:05 PM EDT
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It's gonna be a shitty day tomorrow. There's some solace knowing some will get 22 weeks severance + 6 months of medical benefit Still gonna sucks balls making the calls. The shit show starts at 8am  |
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Originally Posted By GGF: Perp walked to the parking lot, dump their belongings in a box and mail it to them. Tell them it's nothing personal. ( or not )  “We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.” |
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Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: “We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week.” I've never dealt with this on a Wednesday. It's always a Friday. Odd, I know |
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The last company I worked for, I was right next to the the C suite or whatever they are called for a medium sized manufacturing company. I remember they would be talking about how they did not meet their production and sales numbers for the week, so somebody had the bright idea to hire and fire based on weekly numbers. I felt bad for the guy who had to fire the people based on just one weeks numbers. Then when numbers really started to turn solid good, the company could not figure out why nobody wanted to work for them. The good news is the board removed the guy who came up with that idea... it was the president. The president had axed me too, as he could not understand why a manufacturing and product company needed engineering and product development.. I kid you not. |
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Been there During Covid, I laid off 33 people in a day, like an assembly line. “Hey Bill, come into my office. I’ve got some bad news for you…….” Then “NEXT. Hey Tom, step into my office, I’ve got some bad news for you……..” It was brutal, absolutely brutal. Last year I had to lay off my personal secretary, and that was absolutely heart breaking. I don’t envy you, OP Good luck. |
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Originally Posted By Grumple: Sucks I bet. Due to budget reasons I came very close to having to let some of my civilian employees go earlier this year. But thankfully due to some retirements and transfers we ended up not having to go down that road. Now the people, military and civilian, that earned the firing in the past hasn't cost me any lost sleep. |
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Originally Posted By Grumple: Oh really, tell that to those being laid off/ fired. It's the same damn thing I understand that the end result can be the same. That doesn’t make them the same thing. They are 2 different concepts from a legal and HR standpoint. |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: I understand that the end result can be the same. That doesn’t make them the same thing. They are 2 different concepts from a legal and HR standpoint. Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Grumple: Oh really, tell that to those being laid off/ fired. It's the same damn thing I understand that the end result can be the same. That doesn’t make them the same thing. They are 2 different concepts from a legal and HR standpoint. Okay counselor 
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Originally Posted By Grumple: Oh really, tell that to those being laid off/ fired. It's the same damn thing Originally Posted By Grumple: Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Misleading title. “Laid off” does not equal “fired.” Oh really, tell that to those being laid off/ fired. It's the same damn thing It still sucks but you don't get severance if you're fired. Severance + medical + deer season, I'd say thanks boss
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Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: "We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week." Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus: Originally Posted By GGF: Perp walked to the parking lot, dump their belongings in a box and mail it to them. Tell them it's nothing personal. ( or not ) "We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week." |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: No, that SOME WILL GET 22 weeks of salary. So a long vacation to find employment elsewhere. Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Sucks, but at least you're giving them two-weeks notice. No, that SOME WILL GET 22 weeks of salary. So a long vacation to find employment elsewhere. |
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Originally Posted By boolzi: No, that 22 weeks of salary. So a long vacation to find employment elsewhere. Originally Posted By boolzi: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Sucks, but at least you're giving them two-weeks notice. No, that 22 weeks of salary. So a long vacation to find employment elsewhere. Yeah, good luck with that in this market. It took me over nine months to get a new job. |
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Originally Posted By bulump: I hear Oracle is doing a 2nd layoff…. first one was over email I remote worked and got a phone call at home. Every manager I worked with who told me they would have gone to bat to save my position had also been laid off that round. The dark-humor aspect was a few days later I received a card from the Senior VP congratulating me on hitting my 10 year anniversary, and what a valuable part of the team I've been. You would think the guy's secretary would have waited until the dust settled. |
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Do you have an HR? Everyone has an HR now Tell them to do it. Sorry Op, I'm sure it really sucks. Sounds like you |
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Originally Posted By jerrwhy01: God, please let one of them be me! @jerrwhy01 Me too! The problem with a mostly crappy job is it’s not bad enough to quit so you end up staying! Getting fired is actually a relief. To quote Kevin Spacey in the movie Margin Call, “I’d consider it a mercy killing.” |
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Originally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Misleading title. “Laid off” does not equal “fired.” HR may see a difference but otherwise same same. |
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Originally Posted By glock27bill: I remote worked and got a phone call at home. Every manager I worked with who told me they would have gone to bat to save my position had also been laid off that round. The dark-humor aspect was a few days later I received a card from the Senior VP congratulating me on hitting my 10 year anniversary, and what a valuable part of the team I've been. You would think the guy's secretary would have waited until the dust settled. Originally Posted By glock27bill: Originally Posted By bulump: I hear Oracle is doing a 2nd layoff…. first one was over email I remote worked and got a phone call at home. Every manager I worked with who told me they would have gone to bat to save my position had also been laid off that round. The dark-humor aspect was a few days later I received a card from the Senior VP congratulating me on hitting my 10 year anniversary, and what a valuable part of the team I've been. You would think the guy's secretary would have waited until the dust settled.  Apu thanks you for your job. |
