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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:51:09 PM EDT
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If you lift up the float a little do it stop?
If it do, turnt the adjustment screw anti clockwise |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:52:01 PM EDT
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BALL COCK!
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:52:11 PM EDT
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I can't get the video to load on my phone but sounds like you need to adjust or replace the float
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:52:43 PM EDT
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Probably from overuse, just start pissing in the sink from now on.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:52:58 PM EDT
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Piss on it to establish dominance.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:53:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you lift up the float a little do it stop? If it do, turnt the adjustment screw anti clockwise This |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:53:37 PM EDT
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Seriously though. Ball cock valves wear out. BALL COCK!
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you lift up the float a little do it stop? If it do, turnt the adjustment screw anti clockwise This Yep some people don’t think it be like it is sometimes but it do be like it is sometimes |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:55:27 PM EDT
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Do you have hard water where you live? Calcification around where the flapper seats can obstruct if from fully closing.
Lift flapper, run your finger around the edge. If it feels like sandpaper, gently scrape that stuff off so that you expose the smooth porcelain finish. You can also use vinegar (light build up) or muratic acid if you have a significant build up. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:55:39 PM EDT
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Cant lift the float up at all
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:56:24 PM EDT
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Drip some food coloring in the tank to see how bad the leakage is.
Ah, the days of wiggling the handle to make it stop. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:56:53 PM EDT
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Replace the seal that is hidden under the top red cap, problem solved...likely. It's a flat round dish thing and costs just a couple of bucks at HD/Lowes.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:56:56 PM EDT
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Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:58:55 PM EDT
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There is no BALL COCK inside a toilet
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Posted: 7/23/2020 1:59:23 PM EDT
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If the Fill Valve is adjustable, try adjusting it until the noise stops. If that doesn't work you'll have to replace the Fill Valve.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:01:33 PM EDT
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I turned this piece clockwise a shit ton of times and it stopped. Wonder how it got out of adjustments.
Should water be right at the brim of the black overflow tube? 
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:05:15 PM EDT
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Now its doing it again. Water leaking here.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I turned this piece clockwise a shit ton of times and it stopped. Wonder how it got out of adjustments. Should water be right at the brim of the black overflow tube? https://i.ibb.co/gj0ZWPw/20200723-135925.jpg Leave it as is if it works, but it looks like Fill Valve needs to be replaced. As long as you don't have a rusty water shut-off for the toilet, it should take about 20-30 minutes. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:10:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it. This right here. Oops. Looks like a Fluidmaster. Get a repair kit. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:16:28 PM EDT
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Just replace it.
Korky or Fluidmaster, both are GTG. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 2:58:26 PM EDT
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It looks like the float was adjusted too high for some reason don't know how that changed. I lowered it which lowered where the water line is written on the overflow tube. It still fills completely then sings for a few seconds, then stops, which is weird. Never done that before.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:04:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like the float was adjusted too high for some reason don't know how that changed. I lowered it which lowered where the water line is written on the overflow tube. It still fills completely then sings for a few seconds, then stops, which is weird. Never done that before. Ballcock valves fail and wear out requiring more force from the float to close them. Easy to replace ball cock. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ballcock valves fail and wear out requiring more force from the float to close them. Easy to replace ball cock. there is no ball cock in this setup as far as I can tell. I think you like saying ball cock  
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it. Quit screwing around and do what this fine gentleman is telling you. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:20:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: there is no ball cock in this setup as far as I can tell. I think you like saying ball cock Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ballcock valves fail and wear out requiring more force from the float to close them. Easy to replace ball cock. there is no ball cock in this setup as far as I can tell. I think you like saying ball cock I wish I could find tier 1 ball cocks. I’m not impressed with the fluidmaster ball cocks. My toilets had all metal ball cocks. Those were damn fine ball cocks. Not a cheap plastic ball cock. Not a fan of plastic ball cocks. Those are inferior ball cocks. Ballcock! |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:25:20 PM EDT
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Oh, and while you're at it put a quality 1/4 turn angle valve for the shut off with a stainless steel braided feed line in if you don't already have them there or if the current ones are 10+ years old. You're looking at an added $20 for the knowledge that the line won't burst and if the toilet overflows you can shut it off at the feed line without running outside in your skivvies at night hunting for channel locks and the main shut off.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:41:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, and while you're at it put a quality 1/4 turn angle valve for the shut off with a stainless steel braided feed line in if you don't already have them there or if the current ones are 10+ years old. You're looking at an added $20 for the knowledge that the line won't burst and if the toilet overflows you can shut it off at the feed line without running outside in your skivvies at night hunting for channel locks and the main shut off. Already has the braided line and quarter turn shutoff. Thankfully the water shutoff to the house is inside as well. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:45:11 PM EDT
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i just came here to get in on the ball cock
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:45:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it. I've just done this two weekends ago... and it was the second toilet in the house. great thing. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:46:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2020 3:48:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BALL COCK! HOTD is that way -----> |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 4:14:50 PM EDT
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I can haz ballcock? Gib me ballcock!
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Posted: 7/23/2020 4:39:02 PM EDT
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Second or third or fourth on what @nickmemphis says. Replace all that shit for $50 and be done with it.
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Posted: 7/23/2020 5:10:48 PM EDT
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I think Kohler toilets have a different bowl fill rate than the standard fluidmaster fill valve, so if you use a standard fill valve the fill rate might be off. But if you want to keep it simple, and don't want to replace the whole fill valve, here's a few quick fixes.
There should be a yellow water level mark on the right side of the black flush cylinder.  Replacing the 242 seal in a Fluidmaster 400 series fill valve  Fluidmaster Toilet Fill Valve-Done in 30 Seconds with NO TOOLS!!! |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 5:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Kohler toilets have a different bowl fill rate than the standard fluidmaster fill valve, so if you use a standard fill valve the fill rate might be off. But if you want to keep it simple, and don't want to replace the whole fill valve, here's a few quick fixes. There should be a yellow water level mark on the right side of the black flush cylinder.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NJ6flNDIYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6J1cfvQOGgKohler's are geared to be quiet, so they have a slower filling fluid master with a light purple top. I guess rich people got time. I always replace them with a standard red top. ETA: OP you could try taking the gasket out of the fluid master and turning it 90 degrees and see what she does. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 9:03:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I turned this piece clockwise a shit ton of times and it stopped. Wonder how it got out of adjustments. Should water be right at the brim of the black overflow tube? https://i.ibb.co/gj0ZWPw/20200723-135925.jpg No. About a 1/2 inch below the rim, generally. The reason a Fluidmaster 400A is a better design than the cheapy ballcock standard on toilets is a Fluidmaster works with the water pressure, I.E., the pressure acts in such a way as to hold the valve shut, whereas a ball cock design requires the pressure be restrained by the buoyancy of the float on the effort arm. Anything goes wrong on a ballcock fill valve, regardless, step one is replace with a 400A. The inventor, btw, was a German immigrant who also is behind the Kwikset lock family of products. The only thing that ever fails on a Fluidmaster is the rubber gasket under the cap, which is only a couple dollars anywhere Fluidmaster fill valves are sold and takes two minutes to switch out. |
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Posted: 7/23/2020 9:15:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. About a 1/2 inch below the rim, generally. The reason a Fluidmaster 400A is a better design than the cheapy ballcock standard on toilets is a Fluidmaster works with the water pressure, I.E., the pressure acts in such a way as to hold the valve shut, whereas a ball cock design requires the pressure be restrained by the buoyancy of the float on the effort arm. Anything goes wrong on a ballcock fill valve, regardless, step one is replace with a 400A. The inventor, btw, was a German immigrant who also is behind the Kwikset lock family of products. The only thing that ever fails on a Fluidmaster is the rubber gasket under the cap, which is only a couple dollars anywhere Fluidmaster fill valves are sold and takes two minutes to switch out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I turned this piece clockwise a shit ton of times and it stopped. Wonder how it got out of adjustments. Should water be right at the brim of the black overflow tube? https://i.ibb.co/gj0ZWPw/20200723-135925.jpg No. About a 1/2 inch below the rim, generally. The reason a Fluidmaster 400A is a better design than the cheapy ballcock standard on toilets is a Fluidmaster works with the water pressure, I.E., the pressure acts in such a way as to hold the valve shut, whereas a ball cock design requires the pressure be restrained by the buoyancy of the float on the effort arm. Anything goes wrong on a ballcock fill valve, regardless, step one is replace with a 400A. The inventor, btw, was a German immigrant who also is behind the Kwikset lock family of products. The only thing that ever fails on a Fluidmaster is the rubber gasket under the cap, which is only a couple dollars anywhere Fluidmaster fill valves are sold and takes two minutes to switch out. Ballcock! |
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Posted: 7/24/2020 11:38:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2020 11:44:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 4:49:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Replace with fluidmaster 400A and be done with it. This is the correct answer |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:22:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace the seal that is hidden under the top red cap, problem solved...likely. It's a flat round dish thing and costs just a couple of bucks at HD/Lowes. https://www.lowes.com/pd/KOHLER-1-in-Flush-Valve-Seal-for-Kohler/3508524?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-rpe-_-google-_-lia-_-208-_-toiletrepair-_-3508524-_-0&placeholder=null&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_prWia_u6gIVlozICh3bCAXnEAQYASABEgJqRvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:27:03 PM EDT
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I don't know fellas. I futsed around with the black adjustment screw and it stopped happening.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:28:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know fellas. I futsed around with the black adjustment screw and it stopped happening. Your welcome |
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