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Link Posted: 9/28/2022 1:19:15 AM EDT
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Pretty sure I'd enjoy hanging out w/ OP more than you.  I've had two gun sales jobs and finally got my 01.  I just have one issue, I have a terrible sense of smell, and have never been around weed.

OP, I just had two basic sales tactics.  If you walked up to the counter, I handed you a gun.  If that wasn't the gun you were interested in, you'd tell me, and I'd hand you another gun.  Americans have a difficult time putting down a gun in a gun shop.  They really want to take em home.

The other was I'd wait until they had paintakingly filled out the 4473.  I'd ask em then if they wanted to add any other guns w/o doing any more paperwork before I ran the check.  Didn't hit all the time, but enough to make it worthwhile.  Very occasionally I'd have to grab another 4473 to tear out the page and list more guns on it.  
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I buy my guns in bulk twice a year to save on the fees.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 5:04:23 PM EDT
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Pretty sure I'd enjoy hanging out w/ OP more than you.  I've had two gun sales jobs and finally got my 01.  I just have one issue, I have a terrible sense of smell, and have never been around weed.

OP, I just had two basic sales tactics.  If you walked up to the counter, I handed you a gun.  If that wasn't the gun you were interested in, you'd tell me, and I'd hand you another gun.  Americans have a difficult time putting down a gun in a gun shop.  They really want to take em home.

The other was I'd wait until they had paintakingly filled out the 4473.  I'd ask em then if they wanted to add any other guns w/o doing any more paperwork before I ran the check.  Didn't hit all the time, but enough to make it worthwhile.  Very occasionally I'd have to grab another 4473 to tear out the page and list more guns on it.  
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Quoted:  Either this is your first "gun job" or you really need to work on your people skills. But, you sound like typical gun store employee....not an individual I'd consider fun to hang out with.


Pretty sure I'd enjoy hanging out w/ OP more than you.  I've had two gun sales jobs and finally got my 01.  I just have one issue, I have a terrible sense of smell, and have never been around weed.

OP, I just had two basic sales tactics.  If you walked up to the counter, I handed you a gun.  If that wasn't the gun you were interested in, you'd tell me, and I'd hand you another gun.  Americans have a difficult time putting down a gun in a gun shop.  They really want to take em home.

The other was I'd wait until they had paintakingly filled out the 4473.  I'd ask em then if they wanted to add any other guns w/o doing any more paperwork before I ran the check.  Didn't hit all the time, but enough to make it worthwhile.  Very occasionally I'd have to grab another 4473 to tear out the page and list more guns on it.  

Well, it finally happened. I asked one of our regulars if they wanted me to write a Combat 870 into the spare lines on the 4473, and they said yes. Thanks for the idea.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 5:08:37 PM EDT
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Well, it finally happened. I asked one of our regulars if they wanted me to write a Combat 870 into the spare lines on the 4473, and they said yes. Thanks for the idea.
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Link Posted: 9/28/2022 6:25:04 PM EDT
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Well, it finally happened. I asked one of our regulars if they wanted me to write a Combat 870 into the spare lines on the 4473, and they said yes. Thanks for the idea.
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Quoted:  Either this is your first "gun job" or you really need to work on your people skills. But, you sound like typical gun store employee....not an individual I'd consider fun to hang out with.


Pretty sure I'd enjoy hanging out w/ OP more than you.  I've had two gun sales jobs and finally got my 01.  I just have one issue, I have a terrible sense of smell, and have never been around weed.

OP, I just had two basic sales tactics.  If you walked up to the counter, I handed you a gun.  If that wasn't the gun you were interested in, you'd tell me, and I'd hand you another gun.  Americans have a difficult time putting down a gun in a gun shop.  They really want to take em home.

The other was I'd wait until they had paintakingly filled out the 4473.  I'd ask em then if they wanted to add any other guns w/o doing any more paperwork before I ran the check.  Didn't hit all the time, but enough to make it worthwhile.  Very occasionally I'd have to grab another 4473 to tear out the page and list more guns on it.  


Well, it finally happened. I asked one of our regulars if they wanted me to write a Combat 870 into the spare lines on the 4473, and they said yes. Thanks for the idea.


My best sale was 6 - two ARs, two service pistols, and two .22 pistols.  

ETA:  Congrats.  It always felt good to save the customer from filling out yet another form.  Paperwork Reduction Act, yo!
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 6:30:18 PM EDT
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  • Come in with your extremely disinterested girlfriend and have her buy 2 guns 2 days after you told me you weren’t legally able to buy a gun in Wisconsin…and then start picking out accessories for your, oops, her gun. Allow me to introduce you to a concept our store calls the “administrative denial.”


  • Try to buy ammunition when we’ve kicked you out 3 times previously for being a drug dealing shitneck. Welcome to number four. Even IF I valued your commerce here, you still smell like jazz cabbage, which is why we kicked you out last time.


  • Call me a liar for telling you that 55gr functions in a 1/7 twist barrel. It might not be suitable for extreme long range applications, but per your own admission, you shoot dirt at less than a hundred yards.


  • Repeatedly insist that 7.62x54R functions in an M1A, AFTER I inform you that’s 7.62x51, not the Russian round. I don’t care if you intentionally jack up your rifle, but I’m not going to let any innocent bystanders hear your dangerous misinformation going uncorrected.


  • Tell me that you quit shooting today because you really wanted to shoot long range, but the wind is really blowing your 223s off course at a hundred yards. I’ve done the math already so I could insult a local news station that claimed the wind blew bullets across a street - your claim is even more absurd.


  • Conversational profanity. I’m not a prude. Profanity has a place to express strong emotion, usually in a stressful situation, or to insult someone, something, or a concept. I understand some people may use it more often than that.  But there’s no need to use f-bombs every other word, or add odd prefixes or suffixes to them to try and fit them in weird places in the conversation. Please do not refer to the guns as “bitches” either. You’re not Eminem.


  • You must WANT to stink like jazz cabbage. That’s the only reason one could smell of it so thickly and pungently that OTHER customers complain about it.


  • You’ve shot up so many times that the hollow of your right elbow is a bloody mass of needle tracks and you’re starting in on the left arm now. Don’t act surprised when I refuse to let you handle a gun.


  • Don’t get pissy with me when I show your wife guns…you specifically stated you two were shopping for a gun for her, and she wants to handle them. Also don’t get pissy with me when I explain to HER that unlike your suggestion of a subcompact 40 or 45, a midsized 9 would be easier and more enjoyable to shoot for someone who’s never used a gun before. Why do I suddenly get the impression that she’s just here to buy a gun for you?


  • Is that an Iron Cross tattoo on your elbow?


  • Ask for a grand for a Ruger AR556 that you bought BEFORE the Shanghai Shivers started and only paid $650 for. Yes, I know what you have too. Do you think I’m stupid? Why would I pay you that?


  • Call me a thief because you assume I voted for Trump (I did, but you don’t know that). I didn’t call you an irredeemable subhuman pedophile enabler when you told me you voted for Biden. Only one of our accusations is true, and its mine.


  • Attempt to return a gun. This isn’t Walmart, and this isn’t a rug that clashes with your color scheme. I know you said you haven’t used it yet. I have my suspicions you meant to add “in a crime” to that sentence.


  • Ask me to place a gun in an appendix holster in the front of your pants so you can try it out. That would require me to hold your front-butt out of the way. I’m not doing that.




I love my job. Every day is a new and different adventure.
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If i call the punctuation nazis to make your rant more readable, will you deny my purchase as well?
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 6:59:00 PM EDT
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If i call the punctuation nazis to make your rant more readable, will you deny my purchase as well?
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  • Come in with your extremely disinterested girlfriend and have her buy 2 guns 2 days after you told me you weren't legally able to buy a gun in Wisconsin and then start picking out accessories for your, oops, her gun. Allow me to introduce you to a concept our store calls the "administrative denial."


  • Try to buy ammunition when we've kicked you out 3 times previously for being a drug dealing shitneck. Welcome to number four. Even IF I valued your commerce here, you still smell like jazz cabbage, which is why we kicked you out last time.


  • Call me a liar for telling you that 55gr functions in a 1/7 twist barrel. It might not be suitable for extreme long range applications, but per your own admission, you shoot dirt at less than a hundred yards.


  • Repeatedly insist that 7.62x54R functions in an M1A, AFTER I inform you that's 7.62x51, not the Russian round. I don't care if you intentionally jack up your rifle, but I'm not going to let any innocent bystanders hear your dangerous misinformation going uncorrected.


  • Tell me that you quit shooting today because you really wanted to shoot long range, but the wind is really blowing your 223s off course at a hundred yards. I've done the math already so I could insult a local news station that claimed the wind blew bullets across a street - your claim is even more absurd.


  • Conversational profanity. I'm not a prude. Profanity has a place to express strong emotion, usually in a stressful situation, or to insult someone, something, or a concept. I understand some people may use it more often than that.  But there's no need to use f-bombs every other word, or add odd prefixes or suffixes to them to try and fit them in weird places in the conversation. Please do not refer to the guns as "bitches" either. You're not Eminem.


  • You must WANT to stink like jazz cabbage. That's the only reason one could smell of it so thickly and pungently that OTHER customers complain about it.


  • You've shot up so many times that the hollow of your right elbow is a bloody mass of needle tracks and you're starting in on the left arm now. Don't act surprised when I refuse to let you handle a gun.


  • Don't get pissy with me when I show your wife guns you specifically stated you two were shopping for a gun for her, and she wants to handle them. Also don't get pissy with me when I explain to HER that unlike your suggestion of a subcompact 40 or 45, a midsized 9 would be easier and more enjoyable to shoot for someone who's never used a gun before. Why do I suddenly get the impression that she's just here to buy a gun for you?


  • Is that an Iron Cross tattoo on your elbow?


  • Ask for a grand for a Ruger AR556 that you bought BEFORE the Shanghai Shivers started and only paid $650 for. Yes, I know what you have too. Do you think I'm stupid? Why would I pay you that?


  • Call me a thief because you assume I voted for Trump (I did, but you don't know that). I didn't call you an irredeemable subhuman pedophile enabler when you told me you voted for Biden. Only one of our accusations is true, and its mine.


  • Attempt to return a gun. This isn't Walmart, and this isn't a rug that clashes with your color scheme. I know you said you haven't used it yet. I have my suspicions you meant to add "in a crime" to that sentence.


  • Ask me to place a gun in an appendix holster in the front of your pants so you can try it out. That would require me to hold your front-butt out of the way. I'm not doing that.




I love my job. Every day is a new and different adventure.


If i call the punctuation nazis to make your rant more readable, will you deny my purchase as well?
Only if you have the dreaded Iron Cross tattoo.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 7:04:54 PM EDT
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If i call the punctuation nazis to make your rant more readable, will you deny my purchase as well?
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  • Come in with your extremely disinterested girlfriend and have her buy 2 guns 2 days after you told me you weren’t legally able to buy a gun in Wisconsin…and then start picking out accessories for your, oops, her gun. Allow me to introduce you to a concept our store calls the “administrative denial.”


  • Try to buy ammunition when we’ve kicked you out 3 times previously for being a drug dealing shitneck. Welcome to number four. Even IF I valued your commerce here, you still smell like jazz cabbage, which is why we kicked you out last time.


  • Call me a liar for telling you that 55gr functions in a 1/7 twist barrel. It might not be suitable for extreme long range applications, but per your own admission, you shoot dirt at less than a hundred yards.


  • Repeatedly insist that 7.62x54R functions in an M1A, AFTER I inform you that’s 7.62x51, not the Russian round. I don’t care if you intentionally jack up your rifle, but I’m not going to let any innocent bystanders hear your dangerous misinformation going uncorrected.


  • Tell me that you quit shooting today because you really wanted to shoot long range, but the wind is really blowing your 223s off course at a hundred yards. I’ve done the math already so I could insult a local news station that claimed the wind blew bullets across a street - your claim is even more absurd.


  • Conversational profanity. I’m not a prude. Profanity has a place to express strong emotion, usually in a stressful situation, or to insult someone, something, or a concept. I understand some people may use it more often than that.  But there’s no need to use f-bombs every other word, or add odd prefixes or suffixes to them to try and fit them in weird places in the conversation. Please do not refer to the guns as “bitches” either. You’re not Eminem.


  • You must WANT to stink like jazz cabbage. That’s the only reason one could smell of it so thickly and pungently that OTHER customers complain about it.


  • You’ve shot up so many times that the hollow of your right elbow is a bloody mass of needle tracks and you’re starting in on the left arm now. Don’t act surprised when I refuse to let you handle a gun.


  • Don’t get pissy with me when I show your wife guns…you specifically stated you two were shopping for a gun for her, and she wants to handle them. Also don’t get pissy with me when I explain to HER that unlike your suggestion of a subcompact 40 or 45, a midsized 9 would be easier and more enjoyable to shoot for someone who’s never used a gun before. Why do I suddenly get the impression that she’s just here to buy a gun for you?


  • Is that an Iron Cross tattoo on your elbow?


  • Ask for a grand for a Ruger AR556 that you bought BEFORE the Shanghai Shivers started and only paid $650 for. Yes, I know what you have too. Do you think I’m stupid? Why would I pay you that?


  • Call me a thief because you assume I voted for Trump (I did, but you don’t know that). I didn’t call you an irredeemable subhuman pedophile enabler when you told me you voted for Biden. Only one of our accusations is true, and its mine.


  • Attempt to return a gun. This isn’t Walmart, and this isn’t a rug that clashes with your color scheme. I know you said you haven’t used it yet. I have my suspicions you meant to add “in a crime” to that sentence.


  • Ask me to place a gun in an appendix holster in the front of your pants so you can try it out. That would require me to hold your front-butt out of the way. I’m not doing that.




I love my job. Every day is a new and different adventure.


If i call the punctuation nazis to make your rant more readable, will you deny my purchase as well?


Everything was written by swipe on a large screen phone that wants to misspell every word and capitalize random words. I had to edit out Vs after every “a” for some reason.

I only deny for criminal behavior, straw purchasing, or impairment.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 7:36:50 PM EDT
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I smiled when a new local gun shop opened and had this on their front door:

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Link Posted: 9/28/2022 7:57:14 PM EDT
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I smiled when a new local gun shop opened and had this on their front door:

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Boss, who is black, kicked out a bunch of black guys for wearing their pants too low.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 7:59:55 PM EDT
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Absolutely nothing. Even Germany is ok with it; it's more than likely a biker thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 8:12:50 PM EDT
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I feel just a hint of suspicion towards people who sport tattoos of Nazi imagery. I mean, maybe he likes reminiscing about his time as a foreign fighter pilot, but I kind doubt it.
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The iron cross predates Nazi Germany, much like the swastika.



Opie from Wisconsin, which is chock full of Krauts, and doesn't understand this?

Misgivings towards symbology notwithstanding, it seems like retail gun sales is a lot like retail auto parts.

Link Posted: 9/28/2022 8:14:54 PM EDT
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The signs about smelling like pot have shown up on the ranges around me. They include alcohol as well. I don't blame the stores and ranges at all. There are enough assholes to deal with as it is.

You couldn't pay me enough to deal with the general public these days.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 8:15:26 PM EDT
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Man you run the fuddiest store ever.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 8:18:01 PM EDT
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Now I remember why I only purchase online and haven't set foot in a brick-and-mortar store in forever
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 8:36:16 PM EDT
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Working in firearms manufacturing for a bit over 20 years,you get some really weird customer service calls.

Once a guy had bought an M82A1 and immediately gave it to the stores "gunsmith" because the Smith said reaming out the first 6" of rifling in front of the chamber would give it more muzzle velocity.
Customer sent it back to us after only owning it for about a month. Said the accuracy was all over the place at 100 yds. Sometimes not hitting an 8x10 piece of paper at 100.
We got it back in and I fired it and thought "WTF" after looking at the original test target we keep for records.

I looked in the barrel with a borescope and saw the lands in front of the chamber were gone. The guy did a nice job of reaming it, I will give him that.
Called the customer and that's when I got the story about the "gunsmith". Told the customer the shop owed him a new $1200 barrel.

Shop owner calls raising all kinds of havoc. Told me to just cut the barrel back and rechamber it. Told him that was a no go. Can't be done but for just 2 revolutions of the barrel. So about .120" or so.

Customer says just hold onto the rifle. It sits for about 2 months in the vault. Finally the shop calls and says to rebarrel it. I forward him to the girl in sales to pay. And I complete the rebarrel and test fire. Send the customer a copy of the test target fired with M33 ball. All was good.

Different gun shop calls and says they are sending a gun back as their gunsmith says the rifle is going to malfunction. I ask if they even fired it. They said no. But they can tell it will malfunction because the chamber end of the barrel face has marks on it. I tell him the rifle does not have a last shot hold open and when the bolt closes after the last round, the extractor that sits a hair above the bolt lugs will rub the chamber face and make the marks he is seeing. He says he is sending it back anyway.
Ronnie says to rebarrel it, shoot a new target and send it back. I do that. Gunshop owner calls and says the same marks are there that will cause a malfunction.  We get the rifle back....again.

Ronnie says rebarrel it and DO NOT test fire it. I say okay and send it back. Never heard a word about it anymore.

Customer has probably never fired it.

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Thanks for posting that, you should do a story a day series in its own thread.  
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 9:00:12 PM EDT
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I feel just a hint of suspicion towards people who sport tattoos of Nazi imagery. I mean, maybe he likes reminiscing about his time as a foreign fighter pilot, but I kind doubt it.
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I feel just a hint of suspicion towards people who sport tattoos of Nazi imagery. I mean, maybe he likes reminiscing about his time as a foreign fighter pilot, but I kind doubt it.


?????

This is why nobody likes gun store employees.

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Thanks for posting that, you should do a story a day series in its own thread.  


This. I've noticed more Barrett stories lately and they're always entertaining
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 9:11:04 PM EDT
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I feel just a hint of suspicion towards people who sport tattoos of Nazi imagery. I mean, maybe he likes reminiscing about his time as a foreign fighter pilot, but I kind doubt it.
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The iron cross predates Nazi Germany, much like the swastika.



Opie from Wisconsin, which is chock full of Krauts, and doesn't understand this?

Misgivings towards symbology notwithstanding, it seems like retail gun sales is a lot like retail auto parts.

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I hang out with a lot of law enforcement and so am generally distrustful of elbow tattoos. Elbow tattoo combined with a symbol the Nazis used makes me a hint suspicious. I didn’t deny him a sale or anything, I was polite, I just…wondered…what the meaning behind that tattoo was. If you’re wearing a Wolfsangel and are not obviously pagan, I’m gonna raise my eyebrows too.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 9:15:55 PM EDT
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Idea- we send 3 members from WI HTF into OP's store, we see who OP bitches about most.

Winner gets free box of ammo from OP.
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I'm down...
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I'm down...
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Idea- we send 3 members from WI HTF into OP's store, we see who OP bitches about most.

Winner gets free box of ammo from OP.


I'm down...


I’m almost certain I’ve met a couple of you guys. I’m pretty easy to get along with, and would probably have great fun with y’all. I’d definitely try to sell you a Glock or a PCC.

Unless you come in smelling like jazz cabbage.
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while this is the vibe I got as well, I kinda doubt it. there are so FUCKING many fuddy guns stores around.
Link Posted: 9/28/2022 9:34:08 PM EDT
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That guy with the skull tattoo covering his face?  He seemed ok, I don't understand why you denied the sale!

Seriously, I don't know how you can stand it.   It takes a special kind of patience.
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How the hell did I ever think Linda Hamilton was cute?  
She's on Resident Alien now... didn't age well either.
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