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Yesterday 12:06:07 PM EDT
[#1]
We believe because we have faith.

“Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see” (Hebrews 11:1).
In my defense, I was left unattended.
Yesterday 12:06:27 PM EDT
[#2]
We believe because we have faith.

“Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see” (Hebrews 11:1).
In my defense, I was left unattended.
Yesterday 12:12:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By imagetcha:
Ah, this is the location Ron Wyatt found.  Very good.
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Interesting website with all kinds of info on ground penetrating scans they did at the location:

https://www.noahsarkscans.com/
Yesterday 1:01:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Yesterday 1:02:33 PM EDT
[#5]
I hope they hit oil
The mountains are calling, and I must go. -John Muir

No matter howw much you hate the media, it's not enough.
-McGuy
Yesterday 1:14:30 PM EDT
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there were dinosaurs on the ark, weren't there?

Yesterday 1:17:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?
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More likely it would reveal how fake archeology is and corrupt.
Live your life as you would wish to have lived, when you come to die. Confucius

When words lose their meaning, a people can move neither hand nor foot. Confucius
Yesterday 1:20:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Oldgold:


“In eastern Turkey, near Mount Ararat, Noah’s Ark Scans has begun core drilling at the Durupinar formation, a 515-foot-long, boat-shaped geological feature first identified in aerial photographs in 1959.”



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This is the site I thought I was going to read about, when I opened the thread. (I've been following this one) I believe a recent expedition found ancient (per carbon dating) wood, at this site.

If I am not mistaken, I believe that the Bible also references the Mountains of Ararat, as the final resting place of Noah's Ark.

As a Christian - this kind of stuff, fascinates me.

ETA - I also believe that I saw/read, that this sites dimensions - almost exactly corresponds to the Biblical dimensions of the Ark.
Yesterday 1:20:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?
More likely it would reveal how fake archeology is and corrupt.


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Yesterday 1:22:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
More likely it would reveal how fake archeology is and corrupt.
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So by that logic, wouldn't any findings from this alleged Ark site also be corrupt?
Yesterday 1:26:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
More likely it would reveal how fake archeology is and corrupt.
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There have been excavations there for decades.


Also, how about some evidence of widespread faking and corruption in the industry?
Yesterday 1:29:24 PM EDT
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Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Yesterday 1:31:57 PM EDT
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Be cooler if they found thisAttached File
Yesterday 1:32:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jvmcd:


The bible says “the mountains of Ararat”, not the specific one.

This geological feature is in the foothills.

There was a documentary about 20 years ago on this, it is kind of interesting including the presence of giant ballast stones in valley below it.

If you look at it in Google Maps and pan around, you can see these kinds of ridges are common in the area, so it is likely just some kind natural occurrence.

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The ballast stones have been tested to be the same as the local rock. Which would not match the biblical story.
Yesterday 1:33:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By talontsi_95:
Would be cool if evidence was found(as a believer myself). But lets be honest. This wont change anyones mind. People didnt believe when Jesus himself walked the earth.
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Exactly. People either believe or they don’t. There’s no amount of evidence that will convince the non-believers until the literal second coming, but it would be cool if they could find some evidence there. It would be neat for a archaeological perspective, but I already have my belief system in place.
Yesterday 1:39:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dc204:


Exactly. People either believe or they don't. There's no amount of evidence that will convince the non-believers until the literal second coming, but it would be cool if they could find some evidence there. It would be neat for a archaeological perspective, but I already have my belief system in place.
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Originally Posted By talontsi_95:
Would be cool if evidence was found(as a believer myself). But lets be honest. This wont change anyones mind. People didnt believe when Jesus himself walked the earth.


Exactly. People either believe or they don't. There's no amount of evidence that will convince the non-believers until the literal second coming, but it would be cool if they could find some evidence there. It would be neat for a archaeological perspective, but I already have my belief system in place.
Yup, 100% agree, either you do or you don't.
Yesterday 1:40:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By neshomamench:


The ballast stones have been tested to be the same as the local rock. Which would not match the biblical story.
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How dare you bring the findings of this so called "evidence" into this discussion! LOL

Yesterday 1:49:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GraythornTactical:
If you’re into the archaeology side of Biblical history, you ought to check out Dr. Jeremiah Johnston and some of the material he’s put out. Very visual and digestible content. Not to mention he’s an ardent patriot and big 2A guy. Shawn Ryan had him on recently.
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I like him and Joel Kramer.  

One of my favorites.  

MAMRE -- Where God Appeared to Abraham!
Yesterday 1:55:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?
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Originally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By chargerkid5:
I find biblical archeology fascinating. It's pretty tough to separate the theology from the science unfortunately though.

That said the article you linked is a rock. I was kinda hoping this was gonna be at gobekli tepe.

Yea, scientists have a hard time separating their leftist religion from objective science while simultaneously not being able to answer the why question bc their materialism has blinded them to the metaphysical truths which can't be discovered in their system.


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?


1. The bible makes reference to the existence of other gods, but we are to worship the one, Lord God, if you will (Who came to Earth in the flesh and is Jesus Christ).
2. Nobody knows the precise timeline of events Genesis. I say dig up the site. It will not disprove anything.

 
Yesterday 1:57:57 PM EDT
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FYI:  Apologetics is the discipline of deep down explorations and explanations of Christianity and the known history of the time of Jesus.
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No, it’s not.  Apologetics is a systematic defense, typically of religious beliefs.
Yesterday 2:14:45 PM EDT
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1 Peter 3:15

The Greek Phrase"...ἕτοιμοι ἀεὶ πρὸς ἀπολογίαν παντὶ τῷ αἰτοῦντι ὑμᾶς λόγον περὶ τῆς ἐν ὑμῖν ἐλπίδος..."

ἀπολογίαν (apologian): A defense / a reasoned reply.

But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect."
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Yesterday 2:31:24 PM EDT
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Be cooler if they found thishttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/61478/IMG_4558_jpeg-3831203.JPG
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I'm not sure that even exists on Earth any longer.......or its buried under the Temple Mount
"The villainy you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction"
Yesterday 2:54:19 PM EDT
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Archaeology threads never fail to deliver entertainment.
RIP Tamurand a damn fine Rhodesian Ridgeback 02-09-14
RIP Kaya, an equally fine Yellow Lab 06-08-2015
RIP Millie the Destroyer, AKA ShitTrumpet, WCCorgi 12-21-2015
NORCAL CALLSIGN: YODEL
Happy to be in ALASKA!
Yesterday 4:10:34 PM EDT
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I'm not sure that even exists on Earth any longer.......or its buried under the Temple Mount
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Bigfoot has it.
Yesterday 4:27:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:
Originally Posted By cash50:
Originally Posted By chargerkid5:
I find biblical archeology fascinating. It's pretty tough to separate the theology from the science unfortunately though.

That said the article you linked is a rock. I was kinda hoping this was gonna be at gobekli tepe.

Yea, scientists have a hard time separating their leftist religion from objective science while simultaneously not being able to answer the why question bc their materialism has blinded them to the metaphysical truths which can't be discovered in their system.


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?

That would be interesting.

Hard to fathom how it would disprove.
Yesterday 4:51:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By taliv:


No, it’s not.  Apologetics is a systematic defense, typically of religious beliefs.
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And it shows.

Starting with a conclusion and looking for/rationalizing evidence to fit it is just terrible methodology.
Yesterday 4:55:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GraythornTactical:
If you’re into the archaeology side of Biblical history, you ought to check out Dr. Jeremiah Johnston and some of the material he’s put out. Very visual and digestible content. Not to mention he’s an ardent patriot and big 2A guy. Shawn Ryan had him on recently.


https://media3.giphy.com/media/gVoBC0SuaHStq/200.webp?cid=8dc8958cus1gx9vtqj8djloxu6yb4lfaf2nn6gud5jf5nfoq&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g


Scot Stripling is great as well.  I go to church with his cousin.
Yesterday 5:20:29 PM EDT
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I always heard God told the animals on the Ark to behave. They listened, unlike the ones on Carnival.
Yesterday 6:13:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:


I'm not sure that even exists on Earth any longer.......or its buried under the Temple Mount
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The Ark of the Covenant is absent from the Arch of Titus.  So the Romans didn’t get it when they looted the Second Temple.

For those that don’t know (and it is a wonderful addition to this thread) in Rome, to this day, carved in stone, is a depiction of the Romans carrying away the treasures (as described in the Bible) from the Second Temple.  

The Arch of Titus was built not long after the sacking of Jerusalem. Many of the Temple treasures were even put on public display in Rome. Many contemporary writers, including travelers through Rome, talk about seeing them.

What is notably absent is the Ark of the Covenant.  (There are various theories why, but they all revolve around the Ark not being there at that time)

As a tangent, the treasures taken from the Second Temple are what financed the building of the Roman Colosseum.  

There is also a long standing belief that the Roman Catholic Church has these relics to this day.   They quite possibly did at one point but the sacking of Rome probably saw them taken.  


https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/archaeology-today/cultural-heritage/true-colors-the-arch-of-titus/
Yesterday 6:19:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


So by that logic, wouldn't any findings from this alleged Ark site also be corrupt?
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https://theethicalskeptic.com/2023/12/18/hidden-in-plain-sight/


The person most likely to lie is the appeal-to-authority proponent of the Narrative. Such an agent operates under the premise that, since the Narrative is true, one small, harmless hyperbolic misrepresentation on their part is not only acceptable but necessary to both persuade others of that truth and advance their own notoriety in identifying with it.

The problem arises when the official Narrative is built upon a monumental stack of such small fabrications, compounded over time by the Lindy effect a structure made of 20% induction and 80% awesome insistence.

Live your life as you would wish to have lived, when you come to die. Confucius

When words lose their meaning, a people can move neither hand nor foot. Confucius
Yesterday 6:30:17 PM EDT
[#31]
didnt the dinosaurs miss the boat
Yesterday 6:57:42 PM EDT
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Biblical descriptions of the location where Lucifer fell through the Earth on his way to hell???   Got a reference for that, must have missed it :)
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You will not find it.  It is not in the Bible.
It's true no matter who you are, the worst thing you can do for someone is give them something for nothing. - 3rdpig

Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
Yesterday 7:34:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By builderbob12:
didnt the dinosaurs miss the boat
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No, that was the unicorns.
Yesterday 7:44:35 PM EDT
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I just learned about Hezekiah's Tunnel the other day. Very interesting stuff.
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just googled this, neat!
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
Yesterday 8:11:10 PM EDT
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The Missoula floods are pretty well researched and there's a lot of evidence that they occurred. Is there evidence of a great flood in that area for an ark to wind up more than 6000 feet above sea level?
Yesterday 8:34:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Originally Posted By smartliketractor:


What if the reason they haven't dug up the site of Gobekli Tepe is that it would disprove monotheism and the timeline of the bible?
More likely it would reveal how fake archeology is and corrupt.


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Less fake and corrupt


More Junk Science.



Worried I had to do that.




Tertium non datur
Yesterday 9:54:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJ47:

While I'm not doubting anyone told you this, it is entirely not Biblical, nor how Hell works.
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Originally Posted By kpoesq369:
When I was in Iraq at UmQasr, they said it was the original entry to Hell.  The layout of the rivers apparently matched biblical descriptions of the location where Lucifer fell through the Earth on his way to Hell.

While I'm not doubting anyone told you this, it is entirely not Biblical, nor how Hell works.


I don't think Iraqi's are the Biblical types.
Panem et Circenses

I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.

Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
Yesterday 10:02:35 PM EDT
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I don't think Iraqi's are the Biblical types.
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Originally Posted By CJ47:
Originally Posted By kpoesq369:
When I was in Iraq at UmQasr, they said it was the original entry to Hell.  The layout of the rivers apparently matched biblical descriptions of the location where Lucifer fell through the Earth on his way to Hell.

While I'm not doubting anyone told you this, it is entirely not Biblical, nor how Hell works.


I don't think Iraqi's are the Biblical types.


Perhaps it is in the Quran or some traditional based on that. Like Europe and Africa and South America has all kinds of pages traditions in orbit around Christianity, there are lots of similar things in orbit around some Islamic lands.  

Yesterday 10:12:56 PM EDT
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Curse of Oak Island says, hold my beer and watch this, and I did for over 10 seasons.
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Could it be??
Yesterday 10:20:39 PM EDT
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No, that was the unicorns.
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Originally Posted By builderbob12:
didnt the dinosaurs miss the boat


No, that was the unicorns.


What would a rhino with one horn be called?

Also the word dinosaur was not used until the 1800’s. What could they have been called before that?
Yesterday 10:47:16 PM EDT
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As a believer, I find this so interesting.
Yesterday 11:21:22 PM EDT
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What would a rhino with one horn be called?

Also the word dinosaur was not used until the 1800’s. What could they have been called before that?
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I don't know, perhaps Dragon, Leviathan, Behemoth,Cockatrice, or Unicorn?
It's true no matter who you are, the worst thing you can do for someone is give them something for nothing. - 3rdpig

Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy. - Heinlein
Yesterday 11:56:18 PM EDT
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Oh FFS
Today 12:25:41 AM EDT
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They’ve damned sure learned a thing or two from environmental groups.  How fast a survey gets completed and what they may or may not find depends on the amount of the donation to the local university’s archaeology department.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 1:23:51 AM EDT
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They've damned sure learned a thing or two from environmental groups.  How fast a survey gets completed and what they may or may not find depends on the amount of the donation to the local university's archaeology department.
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I do surveys all the time and none of it has anything to do with universities or donations.  It's the same as hiring any other company for a contract.  

Where do you guys get this ridiculous Idiocracy shit?
Today 1:43:25 AM EDT
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I do surveys all the time and none of it has anything to do with universities or donations.  It's the same as hiring any other company for a contract.  

Where do you guys get this ridiculous Idiocracy shit?
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:

They've damned sure learned a thing or two from environmental groups.  How fast a survey gets completed and what they may or may not find depends on the amount of the donation to the local university's archaeology department.
I do surveys all the time and none of it has anything to do with universities or donations.  It's the same as hiring any other company for a contract.  

Where do you guys get this ridiculous Idiocracy shit?

Move down to Mobile or Baldwin County in Alabama and attempt to start a shopping center or industrial site and get back to me when you get your permit.  You’ll be singing a different tune.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 1:44:35 AM EDT
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I do surveys all the time and none of it has anything to do with universities or donations.  It's the same as hiring any other company for a contract.  

Where do you guys get this ridiculous Idiocracy shit?
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It's apologetics in action.

They need a narrative that dismisses any data that conflicts with their beliefs.

People who are trained that way do it with everything.

Today 1:50:42 AM EDT
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Move down to Mobile or Baldwin County in Alabama and attempt to start a shopping center or industrial site and get back to me when you get your permit.  You'll be singing a different tune.
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Lol, no.

They just put out a bid invite and hire companies there, just like the rest of the US.  Doesn't matter on private land in that state anyway unless there is some federal or state involvement with waterways or burials or whatever.

Seriously though, where did that line of thinking come from?
Today 2:02:22 AM EDT
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just googled this, neat!
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Originally Posted By Turnkey:
I just learned about Hezekiah's Tunnel the other day. Very interesting stuff.


just googled this, neat!


My wife and I walked through it. Pretty crazy, up to your knees in this underground, pitch-dark river, skinny rock tunnel. Claustrophobe’s nightmare. I didn’t borrow a weenie-candela headlamp because I had a Surefire torch with no brightness settings, so alternated between burning my hand as I covered the lamp to dim it a bit or conversely letting the lumens fly and kept blinding everyone.
Today 2:06:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GraythornTactical:
If you’re into the archaeology side of Biblical history, you ought to check out Dr. Jeremiah Johnston and some of the material he’s put out. Very visual and digestible content. Not to mention he’s an ardent patriot and big 2A guy. Shawn Ryan had him on recently.
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Be careful with that guy.  He is a snake.

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