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Posted: 11/27/2019 12:08:39 PM EDT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/they-voted-democratic-now-they-support-trump/ar-BBXnsto

Yet success in the midterms might not mean as much for Democratic presidential candidates as the party might think. Nearly two-thirds of voters in six battleground states who voted for President Trump in 2016 but for Democratic congressional candidates in 2018 say they intend to back the president against each of his top rivals, according to recent polling by The New York Times Upshot/Siena College.

The results suggest that the party's winning formula in last year's midterms may not be so easy to replicate in a presidential election. The Democrats' relatively moderate House candidates succeeded in large part by flipping a crucial segment of voters who backed the president in 2016. If these voters remain open-minded again in 2020, Democrats will have a ready-made blueprint for winning back the crucial Rust Belt battlegrounds.

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Posted: 11/27/2019 1:13:03 PM EDT

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Not all that hard to believe. Historically, incumbent Presidents are hard to beat. Incumbent Presidents with a smoking hot economy are really hard to beat. Add that to the fact that the left has nobody worth voting for, they are going to have a tough time beating Trump.

Posted: 11/27/2019 1:47:19 PM EDT

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

Posted: 11/27/2019 1:53:33 PM EDT

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Need a president and senate to keep seating constitutional justices to SCOTUS and circuit courts to help keep the states in line.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:03:14 PM EDT

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Hell, even W won a second term.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:14:24 PM EDT

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

Need a president and senate to keep seating constitutional justices to SCOTUS and circuit courts to help keep the states in line.

This. The courts are absolutely key.

-K

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:14:50 PM EDT

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The most important thing.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:16:34 PM EDT

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These things happen when all potential challengers are clearly insane.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:18:21 PM EDT

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No mention of the 30 Republicans who retired and gave away the house. Not the dems "winning formula".

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:19:54 PM EDT

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https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/11/michelle-obama-2020-chatter-rising-as-we-predicted-over-two-years-ago/

That's why Michelle running may be their last hope.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:34:13 PM EDT

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The reality is while they did retake the House, the Democrat's performance in the 2018 midterm election was historically weak.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:42:59 PM EDT

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and it's not even really about having Michelle as President, it's about backdooring Barack Obama into a 3rd term. She won't set policy or take action without discussing it with him first; she's not a Hillary who wants to distance herself from her husband and make her own accomplishments, sink or swim. Barack Obama would be influencing policy and execution in every way. He would effectively be President again in all but name. Hell, Michelle would make him Chief of Staff just so Congress has to deal directly with him to get access to her, AND Press Secretary just so the nation has to see his Chicago Jesus on the TV all the goddamn time...

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:43:03 PM EDT

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House members tend to retire when it's no longer clear they can win the next one. That way they get to keep their campaign fund instead of blowing it in a futile run.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:46:25 PM EDT

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House members tend to retire when it's no longer clear they can win the next one. That way they get to keep their campaign fund instead of blowing it in a futile run.

It didn't help many of them were swamp creators and everyone knew it.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:55:56 PM EDT

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Really surprised the editors allowed that piece to be run.

Posted: 11/27/2019 2:58:14 PM EDT

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Hell, even W won a second term.

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W was part of the Swamp and it was his turn.

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:01:21 PM EDT

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Really surprised the editors allowed that piece to be run.

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They want to make Republicans confident and hope it results in a lower voter turn out.

Did we not learn our lesson in 2016 with Hillary??

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:05:44 PM EDT

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This right here is part of the revolt problem. It wasn’t Trump’s turn to be President.

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:16:20 PM EDT

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This. The courts are absolutely key.

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

Need a president and senate to keep seating constitutional justices to SCOTUS and circuit courts to help keep the states in line.

This. The courts are absolutely key.

-K

Yep, the courts get the honor of being the last to fuck us!

Can someone remind me of the last time the courts ruled in favor of gun rights and the decision survived all appeals?

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:18:26 PM EDT

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and it's not even really about having Michelle as President, it's about backdooring Barack Obama into a 3rd term. She won't set policy or take action without discussing it with him first; she's not a Hillary who wants to distance herself from her husband and make her own accomplishments, sink or swim. Barack Obama would be influencing policy and execution in every way. He would effectively be President again in all but name. Hell, Michelle would make him Chief of Staff just so Congress has to deal directly with him to get access to her, AND Press Secretary just so the nation has to see his Chicago Jesus on the TV all the goddamn time...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylvia_Hayes

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:31:07 PM EDT

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The party of tolerance and acceptance is really good at shouting anyone who doesn't agree with them straight back into the closet...

...too bad they haven't figured out that closet is a polling booth

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:37:22 PM EDT

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But W`s dad lost to Willie.

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:42:28 PM EDT

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Not all that hard to believe. Historically, incumbent Presidents are hard to beat. Incumbent Presidents with a smoking hot economy are really hard to beat. Add that to the fact that the left has nobody worth voting for, they are going to have a tough time beating Trump.

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It’s my opinion that the incumbent is hard to beat because a very large portion of the population are ignorant cunts. They vote simply on name recognition.

It’s a theory I’m working on.

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:46:41 PM EDT

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and it's not even really about having Michelle as President, it's about backdooring Barack Obama into a 3rd term. She won't set policy or take action without discussing it with him first; she's not a Hillary who wants to distance herself from her husband and make her own accomplishments, sink or swim. Barack Obama would be influencing policy and execution in every way. He would effectively be President again in all but name. Hell, Michelle would make him Chief of Staff just so Congress has to deal directly with him to get access to her, AND Press Secretary just so the nation has to see his Chicago Jesus on the TV all the goddamn time...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylvia_Hayes

Damn, that lady is a trainwreck. The term "rolling ball of butcher knives" comes to mind.

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:54:56 PM EDT

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My favorite thing I saw was this guy in Boston being asked about Warren and he said "I supported her for Senate because I'm a union worker and we are a Democrat family but I don't like her policies so as far as being President I can't vote for her".

Jesus Christ

Posted: 11/27/2019 3:56:11 PM EDT

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They used to be able to transfer unused campaign fund to their personal accounts for personal use, but that's no longer legal.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets/042716/what-happens-campaign-funds-after-elections.asp

Posted: 11/27/2019 4:16:24 PM EDT

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Its the economy stupid.

Posted: 11/27/2019 4:19:22 PM EDT

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That's why Michelle running may be their last hope.

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Hahaha no.

Posted: 11/27/2019 4:27:52 PM EDT

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This. The courts are absolutely key.

-K

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

Need a president and senate to keep seating constitutional justices to SCOTUS and circuit courts to help keep the states in line.

This. The courts are absolutely key.

-K

Meh, the Swamp will get re-elected. They have a shit ton of sheep following and voting for them. Nothing will change

Posted: 11/27/2019 4:36:00 PM EDT

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Hahaha no.

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That's why Michelle running may be their last hope.

Hahaha no.

You are correct. Michelle is an extremely unlikeable person.

Posted: 11/27/2019 6:56:21 PM EDT

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House members tend to retire when it's no longer clear they can win the next one. That way they get to keep their campaign fund instead of blowing it in a futile run.

Dems retook the House because the Republicans retired en mass. Not because of brilliant strategy by the DNC.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:04:05 PM EDT

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If they lower expectations now, maybe their readers won't react so badly they taint the next election as well.

All the fits and crying after Hillary lost pretty much set the tone for the rest of the decade.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:07:13 PM EDT

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My favorite thing I saw was this guy in Boston being asked about Warren and he said "I supported her for Senate because I'm a union worker and we are a Democrat family but I don't like her policies so as far as being President I can't vote for her".

Jesus Christ

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Don't forget Perot. Clinton got 43% of the vote.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:08:39 PM EDT

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

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Muh States Rahts. Is what will do us in. State citizens are allowed to vote their freedom away.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:15:02 PM EDT

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You are correct. Michelle is an extremely unlikeable person.

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That's why Michelle running may be their last hope.

Hahaha no.

You are correct. Michelle is an extremely unlikeable person.

Michael doesn't want the job. He hated it in the White House. Plus, Obama found other boy friends.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:15:56 PM EDT

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Don't forget Perot. Clinton got 43% of the vote.

https://www.historycentral.com/elections/1992pop.jpg

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My favorite thing I saw was this guy in Boston being asked about Warren and he said "I supported her for Senate because I'm a union worker and we are a Democrat family but I don't like her policies so as far as being President I can't vote for her".

Jesus Christ

Don't forget Perot. Clinton got 43% of the vote.

https://www.historycentral.com/elections/1992pop.jpg

Yeah. Perot stole from both sides.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:18:26 PM EDT

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Trump won each of those states by less than 1% of the vote. If 1/3 of those riding the fence don't vote for Trump again then Trump is done. Trump will need everything to go in his favor on the economy, unemployment, stock market, interest rates, trade war, tariffs, terrorist attacks, mass shootings...etc. for him to win with solid margins. I think it is possible but it is not going to be easy.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:28:43 PM EDT

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Which tends to scare me about AOC.
What happens when (Please God) she is defeated

Is she going to stick around in the media spotlight for eons on end or disappear?

I'm of the opinion that she's going to be like the exploded ordnance from World War I and the blockbuster bombs from World War II.

Posted: 11/27/2019 7:37:11 PM EDT

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and it's not even really about having Michelle as President, it's about backdooring Barack Obama into a 3rd term. She won't set policy or take action without discussing it with him first; she's not a Hillary who wants to distance herself from her husband and make her own accomplishments, sink or swim. Barack Obama would be influencing policy and execution in every way. He would effectively be President again in all but name. Hell, Michelle would make him Chief of Staff just so Congress has to deal directly with him to get access to her, AND Press Secretary just so the nation has to see his Chicago Jesus on the TV all the goddamn time...

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Yep.

Posted: 11/27/2019 8:16:05 PM EDT

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He lost because he fucked us. I left the Republican party because of his import ban

Posted: 11/27/2019 8:25:00 PM EDT

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Which tends to scare me about AOC.
What happens when (Please God) she is defeated

Is she going to stick around in the media spotlight for eons on end or disappear?

I'm of the opinion that she's going to be like the exploded ordnance from World War I and the blockbuster bombs from World War II.
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NY is slated to lose several house seats due to the census. Guess what thorn in the butt freshman Rep will be redistricted away when they redraw those lines?

Posted: 11/27/2019 8:26:54 PM EDT

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YES!

Posted: 11/27/2019 8:32:03 PM EDT

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Yep, the courts get the honor of being the last to fuck us!

Can someone remind me of the last time the courts ruled in favor of gun rights and the decision survived all appeals?

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At this point I care more about who wins State elections then I do the presidency. Its the states where we are now losing.

Need a president and senate to keep seating constitutional justices to SCOTUS and circuit courts to help keep the states in line.

This. The courts are absolutely key.

-K

Yep, the courts get the honor of being the last to fuck us!

Can someone remind me of the last time the courts ruled in favor of gun rights and the decision survived all appeals?

It boils down to who the sitting justices are (upper and lower).

Don't focus on the past. As long as Trump is in office, we have an opportunity going forward to stack the courts (upper and lower) in our favor.

Posted: 11/27/2019 8:34:52 PM EDT

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I read an article the other day where they were interviewing democrat voters in the battleground states, and about half of them were pissed off at their D reps wasting time on the impeachment.

Posted: 11/27/2019 10:27:15 PM EDT

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House members tend to retire when it's no longer clear they can win the next one. That way they get to keep their campaign fund instead of blowing it in a futile run.

Or when they are term limited on running their committees and have to go back to being a regular Congress critter.

Posted: 11/27/2019 10:29:18 PM EDT

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Not all that hard to believe. Historically, incumbent Presidents are hard to beat. Incumbent Presidents with a smoking hot economy are really hard to beat. Add that to the fact that the left has nobody worth voting for, they are going to have a tough time beating Trump.

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Expect the demonshits to literally destroy the economy any way they can.

Posted: 11/27/2019 11:55:55 PM EDT

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It’s my opinion that the incumbent is hard to beat because a very large portion of the population are ignorant cunts. They vote simply on name recognition.

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Well in my opinion it’s a pretty sound theory, how else could all these dumb fucks be voted into office year after year. Lazy stupid voters will be our downfall. Correction, has caused.

Posted: 11/28/2019 12:02:09 AM EDT

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Yep. Couple that with the RNC just surrendering everywhere they could and halfheartedly, if that, backing any Trump endorsed candidates while the DNC/Soros apparatus was in absolute attack mode and the outcome wasn't a surprise.

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