Mind boggling...

And BOTH sides think THEY are the Patriots...

So...who's the traitor?

I guess it's subjective, considering each side is working in the manner they believe is consistent with the Constitution.

Who is correct?

Does the Preamble to The Constitution not state that the document was written in order to "establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"?

Establish Justice sure sounds like it could holding people accountable for their actions, like Police Officers who shoot people.

Insure domestic Tranquility sure sounds like it could mean calling for Unity, and ensuring people who would disrupt the institutions of our Republic are also held accountable for their actions.

Promote the general Welfare sure sounds like it could mean giving citizens a helping and through assistance programs.

Who is correct? Who is a traitor? The person who wants to give the people everything, or the person who wants to give the people nothing?

A lot of people like to think they are the hero, but just as many people think you are the villian.

Thanks for your post. It’s exactly what I was getting after. When both sides view themselves aligned with patriotism, and the other side as the traitors, how do you come back from that?

If you just read the preamble that could mean whatever the hell you want. Probably why there are several pages after that.

The Preamble is the entire purpose for the document. It lays out the reasons for founding and values of the Republic. It is the basis upon which all the amendments are written and is the very core of the document. It is arguably the most important passage in the document.

OK.

and then it goes on to dictate how those ideas will be achieved in a orderly, lawful way.

I especially like how detailed the presidential election process is.

I think he is referring to the patriot party that has been proposed as a new third party. He is saying the Democrats and Republicans are the same.

I will admit, he confuses me. Kind of jumps back and forth.

When a whole army of traitors was trying to take down a sitting president, OP nit picked said president for every bad move mad and never celebrated his victories.  

I ain't saying he is a bad guy.  I am saying it takes more than clever quote sometimes.

Yet OP worked tirelessly to disparage and discredit Trump on this forum whenever possible for 4 years and now wants on the the "good guys"  team?


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Are they any Demorat patriots?
How many Republicans are traitors?

" I Don’t Want to Belong to Any Club That Will Accept Me as a Member"
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