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Posted: 7/29/2021 10:00:00 PM EDT
So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%. Probably true.
Here's the rest of it. In my area (Central AR) hospitals are full. Not all of it's covid, but covid was the straw that broke the camel's back. Our area medical resources are stretched incredibly thin. In the last week, I've seen two people having a STEMI (a true heart attack) on a monitor not get hospital beds, in one case for 4 hours. One EMS crew sat on a wall with a patient for 12 and a half hours before the hospital would accept them. That's 12 hours that they couldn't go get other patients. While they were waiting there unable to legally leave, shootings, code blues, and major trauma incidents went out and were held due to no available units. Nevermind the nurses, MDs, and EMTs etc that are out with it. Every facility/agency in the area has more people out with covid than ever before. Most of the PCPs in my area are handing out anti anxiety meds like candy to anyone that works in any critical care role in a hospital or EMS. It's not working. We're still losing nurses and EMS people faster than they can be replaced, even throwing $100 an hour at travel nurses. So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service. |
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Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not.
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What is the criteria for hospitalization? Sorry, I'm not buying a legit over run of the health system......look at what we wasted/unused in NYC.
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I've heard the same thing in a half dozen states.
Of course GD insists all the medical workers are liars and it's just the sniffles killing hundreds of thousands of people. |
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In my area experienced doctors, nurses, and pharmacists are quitting their jobs because they will not be guinea pigs.
Unintended consequences. |
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Interesting.
Things are slow here. COVID deaths are about 1:1000000 right now, have been for a while. |
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Its so bad here that when I took someone to urgent care I was the only one there and didn't have to wait. OMG Dooooooom!!!
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Everyone watches the news and freaks out when they get a sniffle now. The first thing they do is run to the ER.
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Quoted: Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not. View Quote I had heard that a lot of hospitals usually run about 85% full, when it comes to beds. It's not a good business situation to have a lot of underutilized resources. When COVID comes along, it consumes that last available bit pretty quick. This is what made Northern Italy look so horrific. They normally run like 85-95% capacity in the winter months anyway. |
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Quoted: Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not. View Quote There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not. Exactly. Empty beds lose money. Kind of like those nasty power plants they used to have. Who needs reserve electrical generation capacity, we can always do rolling blackouts. |
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You know what we should do? Fire a shitload of doctors and nurses for not taking the vaccine. That’ll fix it.
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I work a large healthcare “system” and my local hospital had ZERO cases inpatient and system wide we were at 4. I had to kick the dust of my brain to do the COVID order set when I admitted a case at another one of our facilities as it had been that long since I did one.
We have been over capacity and holding in the ER but none of it has anything to do with COVID in our case. We have been admitting some soft ass shit that could probably have gone home. I think our ER docs are getting pressure to admit whatever they can to try and recoup losses. |
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I'm in NWA. A coworkers husband went to the ER yesterday, no issues getting in, surgery scheduled for tomorrow morning.
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To contrast, I work at a medical/respiratory covid-designated ICU at the biggest hospital in the biggest city in my state. We have 1 ICU level C19 patient.
Plenty of staffing issues, but not because we are overwhelmed with covid. |
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Quoted: There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not. There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem. During flu season we would get turnover from the previous shift at the station about which ERs were closed to ambulances because they were at capacity. |
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Quoted: This. If they’re not as close to full as possible, they’re wasting losing revenue on empty beds. All our small hospitals got bought by upmc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not. This. If they’re not as close to full as possible, they’re wasting losing revenue on empty beds. All our small hospitals got bought by upmc. After her neurosurgery my wife was released straight from the ICU as a floor bed never opened up before she was ready for discharge. Pre-coof. |
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Quoted: I've heard the same thing in a half dozen states. Of course GD insists all the medical workers are liars and it's just the sniffles killing hundreds of thousands of people. View Quote Actuall a lot are. Not saying OP is but many are. Many, especially those that are on the periphery of emergency care of outside or direct work with critical patients puff up everything to look like a war zone to make them look more important. Hero complex.. Ala dancing nurses that are in entirely separate wings of hospitals on TikTok. Physical therapists are the worst when it comes to it |
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Just not seeing it here. Have plenty of friends who work in hospitals and they say they arent seeing it either.
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I’m in Harrison, a couple hours north of you.
I’m not a huge fan of our hospital to begin with, but to hear our healthcare workers talk you’d think they didn’t have time to take a shit. When I go by the hospital though… it’s a ghost town. It’s not just a lack of cars in the parking lot, either, most of the place is dark in the evenings when you’d expect to see lights on in patient rooms. The ED is hopping, of course, and I totally get that that role sucks. |
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Quoted: So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%. Probably true. Here's the rest of it. In my area (Central AR) hospitals are full. Not all of it's covid, but covid was the straw that broke the camel's back. Our area medical resources are stretched incredibly thin. In the last week, I've seen two people having a STEMI (a true heart attack) on a monitor not get hospital beds, in one case for 4 hours. One EMS crew sat on a wall with a patient for 12 and a half hours before the hospital would accept them. That's 12 hours that they couldn't go get other patients. While they were waiting there unable to legally leave, shootings, code blues, and major trauma incidents went out and were held due to no available units. Nevermind the nurses, MDs, and EMTs etc that are out with it. Every facility/agency in the area has more people out with covid than ever before. Most of the PCPs in my area are handing out anti anxiety meds like candy to anyone that works in any critical care role in a hospital or EMS. It's not working. We're still losing nurses and EMS people faster than they can be replaced, even throwing $100 an hour at travel nurses. So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service. View Quote I know AR, throw a hospital name out. Not getting this anecdotally from my people there. |
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Quoted: There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem. View Quote LOL Waiting in the hallway is normal in MANY hospitals. Pre Covid. Sorry. You Doomers are trying too hard now |
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As a healthcare worker, all I can say is.....what a load of doomer bullshit.
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Quoted: So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service. View Quote Same here. Bad time to visit the hospital which is full |
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If the hospital doesn't serve beer then I'm not going.
Fuck your bullshit flu |
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Quoted: So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%. Probably true. View Quote I doubt it's even close to 1%. |
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Here is your data for AR
Deaths Attached File Cases Attached File Notice how cases rise and deaths decline? Because they actually know how to treat this thing instead of throwing people onto ventilators and using talismans. |
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I know two Nurses in Ar. Where might they acquire these $100 an hour jobs? Don't guess they need the Anxiety meds as I just talked to one of them and while very busy they seemed of sound mind.
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Quoted: Here is your data for AR https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/brave_BLPWY6lFZf_jpg-2032673.JPG View Quote HOLY FUCK!! OP IS RIGHT!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!! His title was SOOOO right!!!. 'Truth' |
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Quoted: Here is your data for AR https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/brave_BLPWY6lFZf_jpg-2032673.JPG View Quote Yes, what a weird time to start whining about being overrun. |
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Quoted: Why are they still dispatching critical patients to EDs who are closed? Your triage and dispatch sucks. View Quote They don't dispatch us to EDs. Patient gets to decide. We can only tell them the status of the EDs and they get to chose. Psych patients and major trauma patients with GCS of 13 or lower are the general exceptions to that. We've had patients get told "if you go to X, you'll be sent to the waiting room on arrival and might be there for 2 days" and they still want to go there. |
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