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Posted: 7/29/2021 10:00:00 PM EDT
So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%.  Probably true.

Here's the rest of it.
In my area (Central AR) hospitals are full.  Not all of it's covid, but covid was the straw that broke the camel's back.  Our area medical resources are stretched incredibly thin.  In the last week, I've seen two people having a STEMI (a true heart attack) on a monitor not get hospital beds, in one case for 4 hours.  One EMS crew sat on a wall with a patient for 12 and a half hours before the hospital would accept them. That's 12 hours that they couldn't go get other patients. While they were waiting there unable to legally leave, shootings, code blues, and major trauma incidents went out and were held due to no available units.  Nevermind the nurses, MDs, and EMTs etc that are out with it.  Every facility/agency in the area has more people out with covid than ever before.

Most of the PCPs in my area are handing out anti anxiety meds like candy to anyone that works in any critical care role in a hospital or EMS.  It's not working. We're still losing nurses and EMS people faster than they can be replaced, even throwing $100 an hour at travel nurses.  

So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:01:30 PM EDT
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Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:03:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Oh, man, we're really doomed now.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:03:49 PM EDT
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What is the criteria for hospitalization?   Sorry, I'm not buying a legit over run of the health system......look at what we wasted/unused in NYC.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:04:22 PM EDT
[#4]
I've heard the same thing in a half dozen states.

Of course GD insists all the medical workers are liars and it's just the sniffles killing hundreds of thousands of people.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:05:14 PM EDT
[#5]
In my area experienced doctors, nurses, and pharmacists are quitting their jobs because they will not be guinea pigs.

Unintended consequences.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:05:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Doom! Doom! Doom!

I'm over it, I don't give a fuck.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:07:36 PM EDT
[#7]
Interesting.
Things are slow here.
COVID deaths are about 1:1000000 right now, have been for a while.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:08:12 PM EDT
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Its so bad here that when I took someone to urgent care I was the only one there and didn't have to wait.  OMG Dooooooom!!!
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:08:40 PM EDT
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And thanks to government interference through Obamacare and other mechanisms, many rural areas lost their smaller local hospitals.  Results: seen in OP.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:08:46 PM EDT
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Sounds like your triage sucks ass.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:09:42 PM EDT
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Exactly.  Empty beds lose money.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:10:00 PM EDT
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Everyone watches the news and freaks out when they get a sniffle now.  The first thing they do is run to the ER.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:10:11 PM EDT
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Ours did too. Now they're over. When we were the murder capital of the US, it wasn't as bad as it was now.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:10:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:10:35 PM EDT
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I had heard that a lot of hospitals usually run about 85% full, when it comes to beds. It's not a good business situation to have a lot of underutilized resources. When COVID comes along, it consumes that last available bit pretty quick. This is what made Northern Italy look so horrific. They normally run like 85-95% capacity in the winter months anyway.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:10:40 PM EDT
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There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:11:26 PM EDT
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This. If they’re not as close to full as possible, they’re wasting losing revenue on empty beds.  All our small hospitals got bought by upmc.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:11:42 PM EDT
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Nope, one of the smaller EDs had every single ED room filled with vent patients a few days ago with 4 to one ratios in the ICUs
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:11:44 PM EDT
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DU ———>
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:12:39 PM EDT
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Exactly.  Empty beds lose money.
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Exactly.  Empty beds lose money.


Kind of like those nasty power plants they used to have. Who needs reserve electrical generation capacity, we can always do rolling blackouts.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:13:42 PM EDT
[#21]
You know what we should do? Fire a shitload of doctors and nurses for not taking the vaccine. That’ll fix it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:14:13 PM EDT
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I work a large healthcare “system” and my local hospital had ZERO cases inpatient and system wide we were at 4. I had to kick the dust of my brain to do the COVID order set when I admitted a case at another one of our facilities as it had been that long since I did one.

We have been over capacity and holding in the ER but none of it has anything to do with COVID in our case. We have been admitting some soft ass shit that could probably have gone home. I think our ER docs are getting pressure to admit whatever they can to try and recoup losses.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:14:49 PM EDT
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Two weeks.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:15:33 PM EDT
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I'm in NWA. A coworkers husband went to the ER yesterday, no issues getting in, surgery scheduled for tomorrow morning.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:15:36 PM EDT
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To contrast, I work at a medical/respiratory covid-designated ICU at the biggest hospital in the biggest city in my state.  We have 1 ICU level C19 patient.

Plenty of staffing issues, but not because we are overwhelmed with covid.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:15:40 PM EDT
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There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem.
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There is a difference between near full capacity and overflowing. It is the difference between getting care and waiting in the hallway as mentioned above. The shortage of available doctors and nurses is bigger problem.

During flu season we would get turnover from the previous shift at the station about which ERs were closed to ambulances because they were at capacity.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:16:57 PM EDT
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This. If they’re not as close to full as possible, they’re wasting losing revenue on empty beds.  All our small hospitals got bought by upmc.
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Hospitals near me always operate at near full capacity, Covid or not.

This. If they’re not as close to full as possible, they’re wasting losing revenue on empty beds.  All our small hospitals got bought by upmc.

After her neurosurgery my wife was released straight from the ICU as a floor bed never opened up before she was ready for discharge.  Pre-coof.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:18:35 PM EDT
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Oh well. We all gotta go at some point.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:18:36 PM EDT
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I've heard the same thing in a half dozen states.

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Actuall a lot are. Not saying OP is but many are. Many, especially those that are on the periphery of emergency care of outside or direct work with critical patients puff up everything to look like a war zone to make them look  more important. Hero complex.. Ala dancing nurses that are in entirely separate wings of hospitals on TikTok. Physical therapists are the worst when it comes to it
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:18:48 PM EDT
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Just not seeing it here.  Have plenty of friends who work in hospitals and they say they arent seeing it either.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:19:05 PM EDT
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Nope, one of the smaller EDs had every single ED room filled with vent patients a few days ago with 4 to one ratios in the ICUs
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Why are they still dispatching critical patients to EDs who are closed?

Your triage and dispatch sucks.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:19:58 PM EDT
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I’m in Harrison, a couple hours north of you.

I’m not a huge fan of our hospital to begin with, but to hear our healthcare workers talk you’d think they didn’t have time to take a shit. When I go by the hospital though… it’s a ghost town. It’s not just a lack of cars in the parking lot, either, most of the place is dark in the evenings when you’d expect to see lights on in patient rooms.

The ED is hopping, of course, and I totally get that that role sucks.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:20:12 PM EDT
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So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%.  Probably true.

Here's the rest of it.
In my area (Central AR) hospitals are full.  Not all of it's covid, but covid was the straw that broke the camel's back.  Our area medical resources are stretched incredibly thin.  In the last week, I've seen two people having a STEMI (a true heart attack) on a monitor not get hospital beds, in one case for 4 hours.  One EMS crew sat on a wall with a patient for 12 and a half hours before the hospital would accept them. That's 12 hours that they couldn't go get other patients. While they were waiting there unable to legally leave, shootings, code blues, and major trauma incidents went out and were held due to no available units.  Nevermind the nurses, MDs, and EMTs etc that are out with it.  Every facility/agency in the area has more people out with covid than ever before.

Most of the PCPs in my area are handing out anti anxiety meds like candy to anyone that works in any critical care role in a hospital or EMS.  It's not working. We're still losing nurses and EMS people faster than they can be replaced, even throwing $100 an hour at travel nurses.  

So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service.
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I know AR, throw a hospital name out. Not getting this anecdotally from my people there.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:20:51 PM EDT
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LOL Waiting in the hallway is normal in MANY hospitals. Pre Covid.   Sorry. You Doomers are trying too hard now
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:21:35 PM EDT
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Doomer porn thread.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:21:44 PM EDT
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As a healthcare worker, all I can say is.....what a load of doomer bullshit.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:21:57 PM EDT
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in almost 2 years. I knew one person who died.


Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:22:14 PM EDT
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So I might suggest that right now would be a pretty bad time to need ANY hospital service.
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Same here.  Bad time to visit the hospital which is full
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:23:31 PM EDT
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If the hospital doesn't serve beer then I'm not going.

Fuck your bullshit flu
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:23:33 PM EDT
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So a lot of people love to talk about the death rate of covid being only around 1%.  Probably true.

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I doubt it's even close to 1%.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:24:06 PM EDT
[#41]
OP I thought you drove trucks
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:24:32 PM EDT
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People like this:



Can predict this, but hospital systems don’t hire them.

I computed Washington state’s hospital maximum back in late November and was within 2%. The state didn’t hit max until 4 weeks later.

Using predictive math like that, hospital systems would be able to gauge when COVID-19 hospitalization will increase, rate of increase and peak … this will help to prepare capacity by scaling back elective surgeries when the resurgences come due.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:24:53 PM EDT
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Here is your data for AR

Deaths
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Cases
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Notice how cases rise and deaths decline?  

Because they actually know how to treat this thing instead of throwing people onto ventilators and using talismans.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:25:09 PM EDT
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Needs more Tik Tok dancing nurses in PPE
because

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Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:25:13 PM EDT
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I know two Nurses in Ar. Where might they acquire these $100 an hour jobs? Don't guess they need the Anxiety meds as I just talked to one of them and while very busy they seemed of sound mind.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:25:19 PM EDT
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This was India's experience with the Delta variant:

US is nearing the peak now.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:26:02 PM EDT
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My town's hospital hasn't had a Covid case since November.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:26:47 PM EDT
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HOLY FUCK!! OP IS RIGHT!!! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!

His title was SOOOO right!!!. 'Truth'
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:27:06 PM EDT
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Yes, what a weird time to start whining about being overrun.
Link Posted: 7/29/2021 10:27:41 PM EDT
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Why are they still dispatching critical patients to EDs who are closed?

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They don't dispatch us to EDs. Patient gets to decide. We can only tell them the status of the EDs and they get to chose. Psych patients and major trauma patients with GCS of 13 or lower are the general exceptions to that. We've had patients get told "if you go to X, you'll be sent to the waiting room on arrival and might be there for 2 days" and they still want to go there.
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