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Quoted: "computer error" twice? I get once. Once could have even been a bikini girl asking to steer and using the computer as an excuse. But backing up after crushing the dock the first time and making another run = Arrogant, unqualified drunk at the helm. View Quote Negative. Everything is fly by wire these days. When the throttle/transmission systems go Haywire its ugly. It happens. Where they were there is little room to do anything but watch the carnage unfold. I know of several incidents just like it. When it happens...your instinct kicks in to move levers and then you realize you already moved the gear to neutral or reverse but nothing happened or something happened you did not want. Remembering to shut off the engines does not always kick in right away because your first thought is to try and stop the boats movement to minimize the crash. Stuck throttle along with intermittent gear commands through the fly by wire controls leads to significant control issues. Also...? Some yachts have a wireless control box you can wear around your neck to operate the controls in reality tight situations. So the Captain can stand wherever they want for a better view of obstacles to avoid. No idea if that yacht is outfitted with it. Another potential problem spot. I feel for El Captain. Good chance that’s a easy $500k-$800k fix. Could be more ? Another close up video of it looks like the one dock is concrete or had some concrete portions. If they punched a hole in it. Big bucks. Also...some of the systems operate where you have to “arm” the station you are going to use. Yacht I was running had a minor glitch where you would walk up to the station to use it. Push the command button. Light flashes as GTG but then defaults back to the previous station you were using or did not arm that station to begin with. Shit really does happen. |
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Hannah (keys the radio): Kate, Kate, Hannah. Kate, Kate, Hannah
Captain Lee: Get off the fucking radio! |
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Quoted: Captain and helmsman should have been detained and drug tested. A vessel that size would/should have crew in the engine room with emergency engine stop capabilities. And emergency drop anchor, unless the Notice to Mariners indicate underwater cables or fouling hazards. Helm crew panic or not qualified to be at the helm to begin with. View Quote They should have had bumpers out, too. I only see 1 bumper. WTF? |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2021-02-26__8__The_yacht_Go_c-1843114.JPG View Quote So it’s the 737 Max of super yachts? |
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Quoted: That place is difficult to get in and out of for super yachts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVWr4sIyCs https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjU5MDIzODUz/venusx500.jpg https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/t_share/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjM0Nzc1NTMz/venusx650.jpg View Quote Steve Jobs yacht? |
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Internet Historian on the Costa Concordia.
48 minute story on the big cruise ship running aground off the coast of italy. this guy is pretty funny if you like memes and can spare 3/4 hour. The Cost of Concordia |
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Stunningly incompetent shiphandling. Wonder what country he used to have his Master's license from...
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Quoted: That place is difficult to get in and out of for super yachts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVWr4sIyCs https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjU5MDIzODUz/venusx500.jpg https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/t_share/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjM0Nzc1NTMz/venusx650.jpg View Quote Maybe they should anchor outside and take a dinghy? Just a thought. |
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Quoted: Internet Historian on the Costa Concordia. 48 minute story on the big cruise ship running aground off the coast of italy. this guy is pretty funny if you like memes and can spare 3/4 hour. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9KBwqGxTI View Quote That was good. |
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It’s the off topic posts like these that show me how retarded 90% of GD is and should never be taken more seriously than the likes of 4chan.
Any level of research on this topic would show you that the engines were finally cut. The second impact was after the controls were reset and they were testing. There are several accounts of the same control system having similar results by other captains just not in such precarious situations. I can assure you no one with a $100mm+ yacht has some fly by night captain at the helm. Also these boats are private yachts not 1000’ tankers with engineering crews. While massive to us they still aren’t that big I have nothing to do with yachting just a half way intelligent recreational boater |
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Quoted: That place is difficult to get in and out of for super yachts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVWr4sIyCs https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/ar_16:9%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cfl_progressive%2Cg_faces:center%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjU5MDIzODUz/venusx500.jpg https://www.yachtsinternational.com/.image/t_share/MTQ2NDM4NTc5NjM0Nzc1NTMz/venusx650.jpg View Quote Je..sus Christ, fu...cking hell |
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Quoted: It's the off topic posts like these that show me how retarded 90% of GD is and should never be taken more seriously than the likes of 4chan. Any level of research on this topic would show you that the engines were finally cut. The second impact was after the controls were reset and they were testing. There are several accounts of the same control system having similar results by other captains just not in such precarious situations. I can assure you no one with a $100mm+ yacht has some fly by night captain at the helm. Also these boats are private yachts not 1000' tankers with engineering crews. While massive to us they still aren't that big I have nothing to do with yachting just a half way intelligent recreational boater View Quote 3 words... Redundant Control Systems As an electrical engineer, mission critical control requires basic redundancy. Computer malfunction?? Lol.... |
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People don’t think loss of control due to system failures be like it is, but it do.
I run a boat for a living. Based on that video there is nothing he could have done. In fact where he crashed was the best option to do so. Killing the engines would have done nothing to help, dropping the anchor would have done nothing to help at the point in which the video begins and could have made things worse. I’ve lost my throttles before while docking. You aim as best you can with what you have left and hope the engineer gets things back as fast as possible. And this is not in defense of yachties, because I’m not a big fan of them. M/Y Skyline excluded. |
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Quoted: If you trace the path of the yacht before it hit it looks like it was having major issues. But the armchair captains will just look at the last 30 seconds. View Quote One screw was WFO full back, the other looked like it was 1/4 ahead. The post with the guy complaining about the super special electronic throttle being shit, may have a lot to do with the boaty bump-n-grind. |
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When I was a teen I worked at a marina for several summers. One boat owner earned the name " crash" because every time he took his boat out of his slip he was guaranteed to hit something.
Nothing as significant as this boat here, but he owned a steel hulled house boat that would damage a fiberglass hulled boat pretty easily |
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Fly-by-wire works fantastic when it works.
When it *doesn't* work, you're at the mercy of either the guy that designed the failure mode program, or a retarded computer that just might decide to do some random shit you didn't ask it to do. I can't believe a craft like that was designed without a "manual override" of some sort for steering and propulsion, or at least some level of redundancy in computer control to prevent that exact situation from happening. |
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Quoted: 3 words... Redundant Control Systems As an electrical engineer, mission critical control requires basic redundancy. Computer malfunction?? Lol.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It's the off topic posts like these that show me how retarded 90% of GD is and should never be taken more seriously than the likes of 4chan. Any level of research on this topic would show you that the engines were finally cut. The second impact was after the controls were reset and they were testing. There are several accounts of the same control system having similar results by other captains just not in such precarious situations. I can assure you no one with a $100mm+ yacht has some fly by night captain at the helm. Also these boats are private yachts not 1000' tankers with engineering crews. While massive to us they still aren't that big I have nothing to do with yachting just a half way intelligent recreational boater 3 words... Redundant Control Systems As an electrical engineer, mission critical control requires basic redundancy. Computer malfunction?? Lol.... I’m sure yacht engineers who design these are missing a mind like yours. If only they would have thought about that!! |
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Captain Ron's docking manuevers |
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