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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Compromise on freedom? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:43:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why?  or more likely, some people who claim to be all for freedom really aren't.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:43:54 AM EDT
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Bullshit. Fuck dopers.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:45:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Leads to more health problems which leads to more taxes to provide healthcare because of people's vices. Be realistic: there's no way that doesn't happen. The libertarian dream of being "responsible for one's actions" is just that: a dream. How many people do you know will smoke weed just because it is legal. If you weren't going to smoke it when its illegal you aren't going to smoke it when it is legal. J- |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 6:46:43 AM EDT
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Ridiculous that it’s a schedule 1. Most LEOs will agree J- |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:17:51 AM EDT
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Cannabis. The left WILL NOT allow him into the presidency again as long as he does not appeal to at least some of the “Left” |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:35:41 AM EDT
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no it doesn't. How many people do you know will smoke weed just because it is legal. If you weren't going to smoke it when its illegal you aren't going to smoke it when it is legal. J- Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Leads to more health problems which leads to more taxes to provide healthcare because of people's vices. Be realistic: there's no way that doesn't happen. The libertarian dream of being "responsible for one's actions" is just that: a dream. How many people do you know will smoke weed just because it is legal. If you weren't going to smoke it when its illegal you aren't going to smoke it when it is legal. J- |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:38:40 AM EDT
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Yep. With all of the major issues facing the United States of America, the only way to win is to legalize pot. All that other bullshit is dumb. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:13:59 AM EDT
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You dopers should find another way to make your life happy. So tired of hearing from people who carry weapons but can't stay clean. You want this country to look like Holland where the dopers sit on the park benches and shoot up? Really a fucked up society I live in when this is what the average American wants. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:15:02 AM EDT
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Funny I’ve been saying this for the past year. Slam dunk reelection if he does. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:15:40 AM EDT
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Bullshit. Fuck dopers. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:17:31 AM EDT
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You sampling your product? If the election was tomorrow it would be a sweep, in Trump's favor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cannabis. The left WILL NOT allow him into the presidency again as long as he does not appeal to at least some of the “Left” 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:18:31 AM EDT
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Pro dopers think dope is a magical thing that fixes everything, it's on their mind 24/7. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep. With all of the major issues facing the United States of America, the only way to win is to legalize pot. All that other bullshit is dumb. Remember, the same type will want to enforce any and all new gun laws on you as well, cuz derp, laws is laws. Herp derp. Follow blindly citizens. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:27:20 AM EDT
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Too many shallow minded "conservatives" think that it's a liberal thing rather than an issue of freedom and government drastically overstepping its bounds. They don't necessarily hate weed, they hate liberals.
Conservatives like to pretend they are pro-freedom but that's not the truth. Conservatives want to control, regulate and restrict behavior just as much as the left, it's just that they want to restrict different things. I am for small government and personal responsibility, not holding onto failed ideas simply because it's against the other political party's platform. Yeah I vote GOP, because what choice do I have... But I'm a fiscal conservative and a small-L libertarian in my beliefs. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:40:07 AM EDT
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Anti freedom statists think it’s a magical evil plant that ruins everything, it’s on their mind 24/7 Remember, the same type will want to enforce any and all new gun laws on you as well, cuz derp, laws is laws. Herp derp. Follow blindly citizens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yep. With all of the major issues facing the United States of America, the only way to win is to legalize pot. All that other bullshit is dumb. Remember, the same type will want to enforce any and all new gun laws on you as well, cuz derp, laws is laws. Herp derp. Follow blindly citizens. They have to admit one thing to remain intellectually honest... no matter WHAT your personal views are on marijuana, the times are changing. Legalization is going to happen, whether they want to or not. Decriminalization/delisting/legalization is the only way to come out ahead or even just neutral on this issue. It would be absolutely stupid to let the left use weed as a wedge tool against us. It is a losing position, and as long as we have the resident statists framing the right's position on weed, REPUBLICANS WILL LOSE. It is the same on other social issues, such as gay marriage and modest abortion rights. Social "conservatives" will always be a thorn in the side of the republican party. Outside of the deepest red county in the most crimson state, social conservatism is a losing position. It's politically easy as fuck to be a social conservative in Crook County, Wyoming... but it's political suicide in ever increasing purple counties/states. The ONLY way to win back the country is to change tactics. It's a shame they think weed is a great political hill to die on. Dummies. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:41:53 AM EDT
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I don't see it playing out this way nationally.
Last year the Repubs in MI basically wanted to do this very thing- legalize marijuana in the summer so the left would stay home in November, sealing a win for the Republican governor candidate. But the dems kicked the issue down to November to ensure dem voter turnout ... now we have recreational marijuana AND a hideous democrat governess. 
Don't do this. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:52:16 AM EDT
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I don't see it playing out this way nationally. Last year the Repubs in MI basically wanted to do this very thing- legalize marijuana in the summer so the left would stay home in November, sealing a win for the Republican governor candidate. But the dems kicked the issue down to November to ensure dem voter turnout ... now we have recreational marijuana AND a hideous democrat governess.
Don't do this. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:10:02 AM EDT
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It’s going to happen at somepoint soon.
Which party wants the win. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:11:22 AM EDT
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It wouldn't be to appeal to the left. It would just make a lot of them stay home because they're too high to remember to vote.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:15:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:27:27 AM EDT
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Guns aren't enough, now we need to compromise on other issues, too? Conservatives should be focused on freedom first and foremost. That means legalizing. To boot.....it would end this ludicrous spending on enforcing ridiculous marijuana laws. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:31:43 AM EDT
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Pro dopers think dope is a magical thing that fixes everything, it's on their mind 24/7. Fudds gunna fudd |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:38:38 AM EDT
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Yeah, don't see that being a big issue. I suspect they'll just sit and watch states legalize it, and do nothing about it, as is happening right now. Kind of like they are doing/saying nothing about state after state infringing on the Second Amendment.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:39:43 AM EDT
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Pro dopers think dope is a magical thing that fixes everything, it's on their mind 24/7. I am pro freedom. It's not about being pro dope. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:41:18 AM EDT
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Yeah, don't see that being a big issue. I suspect they'll just sit and watch states legalize it, and do nothing about it, as is happening right now. Kind of like they are doing/saying nothing about state after state infringing on the Second Amendment. It needs to be legalized at the federal level, and then let the states decide. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:49:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ARFCOM is full of pothead liberals. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:58:05 AM EDT
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More and more every year - sad Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:02:56 AM EDT
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I liked that idea I saw floated for legalization of weed, but tied to voter ID protections...
If it passes, we get more freedom and secure elections. It fails, we get to say we tried. Both are needed. NC had voter ID on the ballot this go round & it passed handily. I mean if I have to show my license to get a hotel, rent a car, get into an R-rated movie, why shouldn’t I have to show it to vote? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:07:27 AM EDT
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Your inability to understand my point makes your attempt at snark laughable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:10:59 AM EDT
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Oh yeah; the voter shift would be Huuuge!
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:18:36 AM EDT
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We're talking about national legalization. Your fear is what, exactly? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, because in every place that has legalized it the Republicans have gained so many new voters. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:23:18 AM EDT
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Had nothing to do with fear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes, because in every place that has legalized it the Republicans have gained so many new voters. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:23:48 AM EDT
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Funny I’ve been saying this for the past year. Slam dunk reelection if he does. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:24:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Compromise on personal freedom? I dont give a rats ass if you smoke weed or drink booze, gay or straight, semi or full auto, freedom is the most important thing Americans can enjoy. I do not agree with him on the bumpstock ban, i do think he will be more 2A friendly than a Democrat alternative. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:38:15 AM EDT
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Agreed
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Cannabis. The left WILL NOT allow him into the presidency again as long as he does not appeal to at least some of the “Left” |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:10:38 AM EDT
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I don't get the fixation on legalizing weed. There are not enough people that care enough about it to make it an election decider.
Also, Democrats "allowing him into the presidency" is not how this works. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:11:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, it has nothing to do with fear, or logic. It has to do with the perception that federal marijuana legalization... removing the responsibility from the federal government... is something that Democrat voters would want, so many Republicans are against it as a punishment towards "the other side," and just to be oppositional in EVERY way to them. There's no logic behind it, especially when it comes to personal freedom. But again... conservatives are not about personal freedom any more than the liberals. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:19:06 AM EDT
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More and more every year - sad Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: ARFCOM is full of pothead liberals. You guys are the rights version of Moms Demand Action. "I support freedom, but....." |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 12:23:54 PM EDT
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Rising obesity rates, continued and increasing abuse of welfare and food stamps; where's the personal responsibility? If we stopped subsidizing failure. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:03:58 PM EDT
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Campaigns are not won by convincing the other side to vote for you. You might get a few votes from the left but you will lose more from the right. You win by activating people to vote that otherwise were not going too vote.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:15:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Leads to more health problems which leads to more taxes to provide healthcare because of people's vices. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:19:32 PM EDT
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Yes, it is about chipping away at the Democrat voting base. A few percentage points will give him an easy victory. Scott Walker was screwed the minute they got a non-binding referendum on the state ballet about weed. They haul it out every time the dims need more votes. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:20:12 PM EDT
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Your assumption is that you can satisfy Liberals. Well, you can't.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:26:16 PM EDT
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Leads to more health problems which leads to more taxes to provide healthcare because of people's vices. Be realistic: there's no way that doesn't happen. The libertarian dream of being "responsible for one's actions" is just that: a dream. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guns aren't enough, now we need to compromise on other issues, too? Quoted:
How the fuck is that compromising? Small government, pro freedom includes not throwing away billions on a failed war on weed, Quoted: Who is compromising? Weed isn't a core issue at all, outside of fudds/bible thumpers/statists. And those guys a a fast shrinking minority. Thank fuck. Quoted: How is allowing people more freedom compromising? Legalize it and remove it as a ballot issue for the left. It's a win-win situation. Be realistic: there's no way that doesn't happen. The libertarian dream of being "responsible for one's actions" is just that: a dream. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Leads to more health problems which leads to more taxes to provide healthcare because of people's vices. Be realistic: there's no way that doesn't happen. The libertarian dream of being "responsible for one's actions" is just that: a dream. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:31:11 PM EDT
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Trump can delist it before his first diet coke of the day, and the dems have no ability to punt the issue. Your argument doesnt make sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see it playing out this way nationally. Last year the Repubs in MI basically wanted to do this very thing- legalize marijuana in the summer so the left would stay home in November, sealing a win for the Republican governor candidate. But the dems kicked the issue down to November to ensure dem voter turnout ... now we have recreational marijuana AND a hideous democrat governess.
Don't do this. I don’t care about weed. I care about not having President Bernie. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:40:25 PM EDT
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LOL @ anyone who thinks this will draw leftists to Trump. You are not only wrong, you are effed-in-the-head wrong. Like the guy in your avatar gets drawn out to rape a girl to cure his AIDs. Like that. Only with weed. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 1:47:09 PM EDT
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Cannabis. The left WILL NOT allow him into the presidency again as long as he does not appeal to at least some of the “Left” 2) If it's legalized, it removes it as a motivating issue for voters, keeping many of the more vehemently pro-MJ crowd at home eating Doritos and pizza |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 2:07:37 PM EDT
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Or at the very least, legalize hemp.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 2:11:07 PM EDT
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Guns aren't enough, now we need to compromise on other issues, too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cannabis. The left WILL NOT allow him into the presidency again as long as he does not appeal to at least some of the “Left” |
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