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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
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Posted: 6/13/2014 11:57:50 PM EDT
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I figured I'd finally get around to making this thread. I want to consolidate as much as possible so this will be a getting started thread as well as a recipe thread. Making juice is easier than you think. If you can make cookies then you can make juice. Some people buy a pre-made base and then add flavors; that's fine if it works for you but I will focus on making juice from scratch and what you will need. The links I post will be from where I, as well as many others, get their ingredients from. There are other vendors but I have had great experiences with both the product as well as customer service. So let's get started.
!!WARNING!! Liquid nicotine is highly poisonous. It MUST be diluted before use. Also, it can be absorbed into the skin so wear gloves. I usually add the nic to however many bottles I am making first so I can put the nic away. I also bought one of those aluminum baking pans from the grocery store to make the juice in so that in case there is a spill it will be contained. There are three main ingredients to make juice. Vegetable Glycol (or glycerine) abbreviated as VG, Propylene Glycol (PG), and the flavorings. The reason I didn't include nicotine is because it comes in a carrier such as PG or VG. PG is MUCH easier to work with so I recommend getting that as the carrier. Here are some links. MyFreedomSmokes is where I buy my Nic, VG, and PG now. They have faster shipping times and lower prices. The below links are still valid but have slightly better quality IMO. You won't be disappointed with either. Nicotine VG PG As far as flavorings go I use the flavor apprentice. There are others out there and taste is subjective, so this will be your "trial" period. It will take some time to find your perfect juice, but at an average of $1.20 per 30ml you can afford to waste a little bit for trial and error. Keep in mind that most flavorings are PG based so this will need to be factored in to your final measurements. Next you will need a calculator. This makes things VERY simple, especially since math is for faggots. I use this one. Very easy to use and many options. Just enter what you want the final product to be and it gives you all the measurements. Below is an example. This would be a 50/50 mix with 18mg nicotine. My nicotine base was 100% PG at 100mg. Now on to the hardware. I recommend breaking the nicotine down into smaller AMBER GLASS bottles. Keep one bottle at room temperature and freeze the rest. When it is time for a new bottle take it out of the freezer a day ahead of time so condensation doesn't form when opening it. Next you will need bottles to make the juice in, obviously, as well as syringes to measure out everything. All this can be found at Wizard Labs as well as most vendors who sells DIY juice supplies. I do recommend getting the largest gauge needle for the VG (usually 14g) since that stuff is THICK!! Also the more syringes and needles the better. I have 20ml, 10ml, 5ml, 3ml, and 1ml syringes as well as 18g, 16g, and 14g needles. Now that you have all that stuff you are ready to make juice. This is where you might have a hard time. Some flavors are strong as fuck others are weak. You will need to play with the percentages. But once you get it right it will be the best juice you ever had. Taste is subjective anyways. I will add/edit this thread as the need arises and when I think of more stuff. I worked 87 hours this week (literally...not an 87 joke) so I might be forgetting some stuff. I have been saying I would make a thread for DIY so here it is. Any other input that helps I will add to the OP. |
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I have been taking the volume on flavors on the 15-20% range then doing the % on them that way.
I just broke it down a hair further. All the calcs have just base % not in the volume set so you could go well above 20% easy. A few flavors are really needed in the 20-25 but not many and would be enough to gag you. |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By DocBull:
I have been taking the volume on flavors on the 15-20% range then doing the % on them that way. I just broke it down a hair further. All the calcs have just base % not in the volume set so you could go well above 20% easy. A few flavors are really needed in the 20-25 but not many and would be enough to gag you. View Quote Like TFA Guava. The first time I made some I went a little high on the percentage....barf. |
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Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Like TFA Guava. The first time I made some I went a little high on the percentage....barf. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By DocBull:
I have been taking the volume on flavors on the 15-20% range then doing the % on them that way. I just broke it down a hair further. All the calcs have just base % not in the volume set so you could go well above 20% easy. A few flavors are really needed in the 20-25 but not many and would be enough to gag you. Like TFA Guava. The first time I made some I went a little high on the percentage....barf. Add TFA Kiwi Double to the list of easy to over use flavors |
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I got a few tfa that moe than 1 drop per 30 ml is enough to DESTROY any flavors.
Coffee clear, double chocolate... the biggest bith of them all the kona coffee. |
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I finally got TFA Key Lime to work. I love lime but had never gotten this flavor to work ok in a juice. I'm just about through the fruit flavors from my last mix batch and had another attempt at a key lime juice left that was really nasty initially. Loaded it up just to get rid of it and wow, after about a week and a half steeping, the key lime flavor is awesome ! I guess this is an exception to the rule that fruit flavors don't need extended steeping.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By jcatcg:
I finally got TFA Key Lime to work. I love lime but had never gotten this flavor to work ok in a juice. I'm just about through the fruit flavors from my last mix batch and had another attempt at a key lime juice left that was really nasty initially. Loaded it up just to get rid of it and wow, after about a week and a half steeping, the key lime flavor is awesome ! I guess this is an exception to the rule that fruit flavors don't need extended steeping. View Quote Is there alcohol in the Key Lime flavor? |
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I am dripping my first DIY juice into the nimbus right now. 80% VG 12mg with TFA strawberries and cream (20%). I made 5 ml as a tester on Friday. Wanted to let it steep a week, but got impatient and pulled it out today. Taste is really close to MBV moo juice, which is what I was hoping for.
Taste is great. I made another 30ml today. MBV is gonna miss my $20/week. |
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Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Is there alcohol in the Key Lime flavor? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By jcatcg:
I finally got TFA Key Lime to work. I love lime but had never gotten this flavor to work ok in a juice. I'm just about through the fruit flavors from my last mix batch and had another attempt at a key lime juice left that was really nasty initially. Loaded it up just to get rid of it and wow, after about a week and a half steeping, the key lime flavor is awesome ! I guess this is an exception to the rule that fruit flavors don't need extended steeping. Is there alcohol in the Key Lime flavor? Just looked it up and yepp: Ingredients: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By jcatcg:
Just looked it up and yepp: Ingredients: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jcatcg:
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By jcatcg:
I finally got TFA Key Lime to work. I love lime but had never gotten this flavor to work ok in a juice. I'm just about through the fruit flavors from my last mix batch and had another attempt at a key lime juice left that was really nasty initially. Loaded it up just to get rid of it and wow, after about a week and a half steeping, the key lime flavor is awesome ! I guess this is an exception to the rule that fruit flavors don't need extended steeping. Is there alcohol in the Key Lime flavor? Just looked it up and yepp: Ingredients: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E That's why. Make sure you leave the cap off so the alcohol can evaporate quicker, if you haven't already. |
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Originally Posted By Keith1980:
That's why. Make sure you leave the cap off so the alcohol can evaporate quicker, if you haven't already. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By jcatcg:
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Originally Posted By jcatcg:
I finally got TFA Key Lime to work. I love lime but had never gotten this flavor to work ok in a juice. I'm just about through the fruit flavors from my last mix batch and had another attempt at a key lime juice left that was really nasty initially. Loaded it up just to get rid of it and wow, after about a week and a half steeping, the key lime flavor is awesome ! I guess this is an exception to the rule that fruit flavors don't need extended steeping. Is there alcohol in the Key Lime flavor? Just looked it up and yepp: Ingredients: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E That's why. Make sure you leave the cap off so the alcohol can evaporate quicker, if you haven't already. Makes sense. Usually when a flavoring has alcohol in it, I can smell it when I open the flavor. I don't really smell alcohol in the Lime and didn't even think to check the vendor description for it. |
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After vaping down my sample of Gin with a twist of lime in one sitting,
I was really happy that I had TFA Lemon Lime in my order. I've really come to like lemon lime flavors... but I wasn't sure about this. Turns out the TFA flavoring has a great balance of lemon and lime to it. I love it. It tastes very natural, like countrytime lemonade with some lime slices. Perfect IMO. It's also very easy/friendly to make a good juice with it. Simply add more till you're happy. I have a nice strong flavor without it being even close to too much. It's also very similar to that Gin with a twist of lime sample I had. So I'm pretty sure that was made with TFA... What I lack is the "Gin", a sort of fizzy alcohol taste. I'd love to find how to make that happen... but honestly, I'm quite content without it. You guys ought to try this lemon lime from TFA. Seriously good for summer vaping. |
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I need to order a few things from TFA soon so I'll probably pick some up. Now that I know how to use the Key Lime, I can tell it's just begging for a bit of coconut.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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TFA Vanilla Custard 15%
I can't put it down!!!! |
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TFA Raspberry is another flavor I've struggled with. I've gotten good juices with it but still have never completely captured the awesome smell out of the bottle. Just mixed up a new variation using it and I *think* I've figured out how to make it really pop but won't know for sure for a few more days when I evaluate the new juice.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By jcatcg:
TFA Raspberry is another flavor I've struggled with. I've gotten good juices with it but still have never completely captured the awesome smell out of the bottle. Just mixed up a new variation using it and I *think* I've figured out how to make it really pop but won't know for sure for a few more days when I evaluate the new juice. View Quote IMO the raspberry sweet is waaaay better. If you don't have it give it a shot. On a side note I tried a Bavarian Creme recipe at 15%. Not bad but needs to steep. I'll get back in a week or two. |
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It is the raspberry sweet that I have. I just came up with a recipe with it that is incredibly good. It's basically raspberry with a touch of strawberry for body and a touch of cranberry for tartness. Both those additions really compliment the raspberry and make it pop a lot more for me.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Hmmm..I don't have cranberry. Whats your recipe?
ETA..I might try blackberry instead..that's why I'm asking. |
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10% TFA Raspberry Sweet
4% TFA Strawberry 6% TFA Cranberry 1% TFA Koolada (optional) 1% Menthol I think Blackberry would be good in this but it won't taste the same at all. The Cranberry is very tart and not very sweet. This recipe is very reminiscent of Hawk Sauce, although a bit different. |
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Found this deal on a cheap label maker. It's $9.99. I paid twice that for it last week. Works great for labeling juice.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/659236/DYMO-LabelManager-160-Label-Maker-Handheld/?cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-CJ-_-1122587-_-11272891 |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By Ohiogators:
Found this deal on a cheap label maker. It's $9.99. I paid twice that for it last week. Works great for labeling juice. http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/659236/DYMO-LabelManager-160-Label-Maker-Handheld/?cm_mmc=Affiliates-_-CJ-_-1122587-_-11272891 View Quote I got mine from walmart for $14. Lots of features that I don't care about. But it works great and I didn't have to pay for shipping. |
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How do the labels those make hold up to water?
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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They don't. In all honesty I put the bottle directly in hot water right after I labeled it so that might have something to do with it.
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Was just curious. I usually mix up 5+ flavors at a time in glass so I'd like labels that can stand up to the hot water bath afterwards. So far, the best thing I've found is to print labels on plain paper, cut 'em out then use packing tape to mount 'em on the bottles. This holds up reasonably well even if a little water seeps under the tape, but it's time consuming.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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I just received Pie Crust and Cinnamon Danish from TFA. The Pie Crust smells like...well..pie crust. It definitely needs to be mixed with something IMO, but it smells good. The Cinnamon Danish smells GREAT!!! I think diluting it with Vanilla Custard might actually get me close to a Deadly Sin clone, as it smells almost like Deadly Sin tastes. We shall see.
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By jcatcg:
Was just curious. I usually mix up 5+ flavors at a time in glass so I'd like labels that can stand up to the hot water bath afterwards. So far, the best thing I've found is to print labels on plain paper, cut 'em out then use packing tape to mount 'em on the bottles. This holds up reasonably well even if a little water seeps under the tape, but it's time consuming. View Quote Maybe put a couple letters on the top of the cap..that should work. Then when they're done you can label the bottle. |
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My labels stay on glass in the ultrasonic cleaner with no problems. They come off plastic. I put a piece of scotch tape on the plastic ones. By the time they come out of the cleaner, the tape has come loose, but the label stays on.
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I ordered some flavoring from MBV last week. To my surprise, they required almost no steeping. I made up some 80% VG 12mg hawk sauce and moo juice at 20% flavoring. 3 hours in the ultrasonic and it tastes almost identical to juice from MBV. The flavoring does seem a little weak though. I am going to steep a couple more bottles for a week and see if it helps the flavor. If not, I'll up the percentage to 25.
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OK so howd i do?
I just bought this from TFA: Blueberry Flavor (Extra)-15ml Coconut Candy Flavor-4ml Coconut Flavor-4ml Energy Drink Flavor-4ml French Vanilla Flavor-4ml Fruit Circles Flavor-4ml Ginger Ale Flavor-4ml Horchata Flavor-4ml Horchata Smooth Flavor-4ml Jackfruit Flavor-4ml Lychee Flavor-15ml Peach (Juicy) Flavor-15ml Pear Flavor-15ml Pineapple Flavor-4ml Pomegranate Flavor-4ml Strawberry (Ripe) Flavor-4ml Watermelon Flavor-15ml I bought a 250mL bottle of nicotine 100mg/mL in PG from Wizard Labs. I bought a 500mL of USP VG, from MFS. Also 10mL syringes, 10mL,15mL, 30mL,60mL plastic bottles and a Erlenmeyer flask for mixing in. Is that all i need? |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
OK so howd i do? I just bought this from TFA: Blueberry Flavor (Extra)-15ml Coconut Candy Flavor-4ml Coconut Flavor-4ml Energy Drink Flavor-4ml French Vanilla Flavor-4ml Fruit Circles Flavor-4ml Ginger Ale Flavor-4ml Horchata Flavor-4ml Horchata Smooth Flavor-4ml Jackfruit Flavor-4ml Lychee Flavor-15ml Peach (Juicy) Flavor-15ml Pear Flavor-15ml Pineapple Flavor-4ml Pomegranate Flavor-4ml Strawberry (Ripe) Flavor-4ml Watermelon Flavor-15ml I bought a 250mL bottle of nicotine 100mg/mL in PG from Wizard Labs. I bought a 500mL of USP VG, from MFS. Also 10mL syringes, 10mL,15mL, 30mL,60mL plastic bottles and a Erlenmeyer flask for mixing in. Is that all i need? View Quote I'd get some PG also unless you plan on doing max VG. Also get some smaller syringes. They are cheap and will be easier to use when you want to make a smaller bottle. |
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Good call.
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Agreed, on the smaller syringes. You can never have too many 1ml syringes. If you're mixing up a bunch of flavors at once, it's a complete pita to stop and go wash syringes between flavors.
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And large needles for the VG
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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I forgot about that. The biggest needle I can find is 14g. If anyone can find larger let me know.
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Here is something I've been trying to get right for weeks...welcome to any adjustment anyone makes and think it might help.
Serving size 10ml give or take. 6mg of nic 7ml vg 1ml of 60mg/ml (100% vg) 1.5 ml Bavarian cream .5ml banana cream .5 ml vanilla swirl Decent right after making. I'm also experimenting with vanilla custard with Graham cracker and banana. .
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Thanks for all the tips so far, my nic + flavors should be here early next week.
Where are you guys all getting your custard/cream flavors from? Damn near all the ones from TFA contain Acetoin. Am i missing something? |
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Originally Posted By Keith1980:
I forgot about that. The biggest needle I can find is 14g. If anyone can find larger let me know. View Quote McMaster carr has larger ones All the way down to 5g They are called "Reusable Stainless Steel Dispensing Needles" About half way down the page. |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
Thanks for all the tips so far, my nic + flavors should be here early next week. Where are you guys all getting your custard/cream flavors from? Damn near all the ones from TFA contain Acetoin. Am i missing something? View Quote I get them all from TFA. It's your choice but it doesn't bother me considering what I was putting in my body when I smoked. I needed a change from fruit only flavors and if the custard kept me from not smoking then that is fine with me. Plus they are fuckin' tasty!!! |
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Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
Thanks for all the tips so far, my nic + flavors should be here early next week. Where are you guys all getting your custard/cream flavors from? Damn near all the ones from TFA contain Acetoin. Am i missing something? View Quote You're not missing anything. It's a matter of personal choice. I try not to use anything containing Acetoin. The Flavor Art vaping line flavors supposedly don't contain Acetoin. I use primarily TFA flavors but for stuff known to contain Acetoin, I try to find FA equivalents. Here's where I get my FA stuff. |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Woot!!! I just came damn close to a clone of Deadly Sin. Tastes fuckin fantastic!!!! It's not dead on but close enough. I was impatient so I dripped a little. Maybe with steeping it might be closer. Either way it is a keeper!!
All TFA 15%Vanilla Custard 7% Cinnamon Danish 2% Pie Crust |
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Gonna try this as I have all those flavors
I need a banana puddin recipe
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spYke
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Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Woot!!! I just came damn close to a clone of Deadly Sin. Tastes fuckin fantastic!!!! It's not dead on but close enough. I was impatient so I dripped a little. Maybe with steeping it might be closer. Either way it is a keeper!! All TFA 15%Vanilla Custard 7% Cinnamon Danish 2% Pie Crust View Quote That Deadly sin is so good. I go back and forth between Deadly Sin and Thug juice. On that deadly sin I get a hit of caramel, do you get it too? |
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Originally Posted By Keith1980: Woot!!! I just came damn close to a clone of Deadly Sin. Tastes fuckin fantastic!!!! It's not dead on but close enough. I was impatient so I dripped a little. Maybe with steeping it might be closer. Either way it is a keeper!! All TFA 15%Vanilla Custard 7% Cinnamon Danish 2% Pie Crust View Quote also, what nic level do you run? What size does this make also, and ml of each flavor? |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By fmkenner:
That Deadly sin is so good. I go back and forth between Deadly Sin and Thug juice. On that deadly sin I get a hit of caramel, do you get it too? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fmkenner:
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Woot!!! I just came damn close to a clone of Deadly Sin. Tastes fuckin fantastic!!!! It's not dead on but close enough. I was impatient so I dripped a little. Maybe with steeping it might be closer. Either way it is a keeper!! All TFA 15%Vanilla Custard 7% Cinnamon Danish 2% Pie Crust That Deadly sin is so good. I go back and forth between Deadly Sin and Thug juice. On that deadly sin I get a hit of caramel, do you get it too? Not really. My wife said it seems like DS was a tad sweeter though. It's a work in progress. |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By spyk3:
also, what nic level do you run? What size does this make also, and ml of each flavor? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spyk3:
Originally Posted By Keith1980:
Woot!!! I just came damn close to a clone of Deadly Sin. Tastes fuckin fantastic!!!! It's not dead on but close enough. I was impatient so I dripped a little. Maybe with steeping it might be closer. Either way it is a keeper!! All TFA 15%Vanilla Custard 7% Cinnamon Danish 2% Pie Crust also, what nic level do you run? What size does this make also, and ml of each flavor? It makes any size you want. The ml will vary depending on the size of the bottle. Check my OP for the picture of the calculator. That will show you what I mean. All those flavors are PG based, as is my nic. So if you are making a 50/50 mix you need to take that into consideration, which the calculator does. The total of all those flavors combined equals 24%. Since it will be a 50/50 mix then obviously 50% of the bottle needs to be VG. The remaining 26% will be the straight PG and the nic PG. Make sense? |
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Hello fellow vaped crusaders!
I've been vaping for a little more than a year and have gone from the Blu ecigs, to cheap starter kits, to better tank setups, and now have a mechanical mod. I have a King mod using a Panasonic 3200 MaH battery and a tosh 3 post Atty atomizer. I am tired of paying ridiculous prices for juices. I am comfortable with DIY stuff and chemistry, cooking, etc., and have no doubt I can blend my own juices. However, I am on information overload right now and have no idea where to begin. I hope I can tell you what I'm trying to accomplish and you can point me in the right direction. I want to blend 6mg juices in 30ml bottles. I am pretty plain on flavors, I like tobacco flavors as well as crisp, cool flavors. I don't like sweet stuff. I like blowing big clouds, but still like a little throat punch. I would same I am more of a cloud chaser though. I am experimenting with wire and wick setups and haven't quite figured out what works best for me yet. I need to know what blend of PG/VG I should work with as well as well as what I need to buy to get started. Recipes for 6mg in 30ml bottles would be appreciated. Please help me get started. Thanks! |
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2012 Arfcockalypse Survivor...callsign Hooligan
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Originally Posted By BrowardMason:
Hello fellow vaped crusaders! I've been vaping for a little more than a year and have gone from the Blu ecigs, to cheap starter kits, to better tank setups, and now have a mechanical mod. I have a King mod using a Panasonic 3200 MaH battery and a tosh 3 post Atty atomizer. I am tired of paying ridiculous prices for juices. I am comfortable with DIY stuff and chemistry, cooking, etc., and have no doubt I can blend my own juices. However, I am on information overload right now and have no idea where to begin. I hope I can tell you what I'm trying to accomplish and you can point me in the right direction. I want to blend 6mg juices in 30ml bottles. I am pretty plain on flavors, I like tobacco flavors as well as crisp, cool flavors. I don't like sweet stuff. I like blowing big clouds, but still like a little throat punch. I would same I am more of a cloud chaser though. I am experimenting with wire and wick setups and haven't quite figured out what works best for me yet. I need to know what blend of PG/VG I should work with as well as well as what I need to buy to get started. Recipes for 6mg in 30ml bottles would be appreciated. Please help me get started. Thanks! View Quote I may be able to help you a little. The size of the bottles makes no difference. Percentages are percentages (read my above post). As far as flavors go you are on your own. Taste is subjective. However one of the more popular tobacco flavors seems to be RY4. If you can give us some examples of some juices you like then we may be able to help more when it comes to flavor. Now as far as wire and wick goes, that's easy. Kanthal wire and cotton wick. PG will give more of a throat hit and VG gives the clouds. The nic gives a throat hit too. As far as what you need to get started, check the OP again. Actually, (not being a dick) I suggest looking at all the stickies (and read this one especially) that pertain to the info you are looking for and reading through all of them. Then spend a few more minutes and browse the threads. They may answer a lot of your questions. |
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Do I really need all of this shit? I mean it seems a few syringes you can measure with and a few 30ml containers and you're good to go. Suck out what you need into the syringe and right into your container. Get it all in and mix it in your container and you're all set?
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Originally Posted By Towely:
Do I really need all of this shit? I mean it seems a few syringes you can measure with and a few 30ml containers and you're good to go. Suck out what you need into the syringe and right into your container. Get it all in and mix it in your container and you're all set? Am i missing something? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile View Quote Really, the only hardware you NEED is some bottles to mix in and syringes. You'll want at least a couple larger gauge needles for working with VG (you do not want to try using small gauge needles with those). The smaller gauge work better for flavorings, nic and PG. The rest is optional, although something like a crock pot to kick start the steeping process is real nice. Don't underestimate the number of syringes to get though. You'll want a syringe for each flavor you're using. Say you mix up 4 juices with an average of three flavorings each, that's 12 syringes right there, plus your syringes for VG, nic and PG. You'll also want some syringes larger than 1 ml. It's no fun measuring out 22 ml or something in 1 ml syringes. It's also a real pita to stop and wash syringes in the middle of a mix session. Some larger amber bottles are useful as well if you mix from a base. I like to mix up a couple 240ml bottles of 25/75/3mg base for all my juices so when I mix, I only have to add base and flavorings and not get into my PG/VG/nic every time. |
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What's the scoop on premixed nicotine. I can get a liter of premixed in 50/50 for 33 bucks. Doesn't seem like a bad price compared to 15 bucks for 30ml of juice I've been paying.
I'm a bit of a cloud chaser though so I was thinking of going 100% VG and getting some PG to mix it with to get my 70/30 mix, then using nic levels to achieve the throat hit. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I haven't used any of the premixed nic bases so I can't really comment on 'em.
If you go heavy VG understand that you likely won't be using it in tanks as it usually doesn't wick well enough. I prefer heavy VG myself because I think it tastes better, but even with 5% saline added, it's still too thick for any of my tanks. |
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