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Posted: 5/27/2022 12:15:42 PM EDT
The first was tolerable, after that meh. I started watching Prometheus the other night for the first time, not knowing it was in the series. It looked promising, then it started getting stupid feeling. Sure as shit, fucking Alien.
I wanted Contact or Arrival, no, I get octopus snake Japanese porn. Aliens suck. |
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Quoted: The first was tolerable, after that meh. I started watching Prometheus the other night for the first time, not knowing it was in the series. It looked promising, then it started getting stupid feeling. Sure as shit, fucking Alien. I wanted Contact or Arrival, no, I get octopus snake Japanese porn. Aliens suck. View Quote OP absolutely does not nail it. |
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You should feel bad for your terribly wrong opinions.
The first two movies were amazing (for different reasons). Everything else in the franchise is problematic in one way or another, and Prometheus is a giant steaming pile of shit of a movie, and so it the sequel (whatever it was called). |
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The first one is genre defining.
The second and third are fine. Prometheus was trash. At least Alien Vs Predator was schlocky fun. The more lore gets added the less interesting The Alien gets. |
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First very good Horror Movie
Second Great Action Movie!! Everything after that pretty much shit! Bigger_Hammer |
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Someone call an ambulance for OP. He’s obviously having a stroke.
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Prometheus is complete BS it goes outside the concept of the genre.
Alien is awesome Aliens is awesome |
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I liked them.
I always found it funny that those movies get so much love from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. |
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Aliens is one of those franchises where you have to invoke the Rocky Rule (nothing after Rocky IV actually happened). Ripley, Hicks, and Newt are still floating in space waiting to be rescued after Aliens. Everything else is just a bad dream from cryo sleep.
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I do like Arrival. Contact is just behind Interstellar for me.
Personally, I think Arrival is about as close to what would really happen if an Alien ship showed up Now for some Robot Chicken parody Robot Chicken - First Date |
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Loved the first two. Third one kind of sucked. No 4 Resurrection was fun. No shortage of Sigorney Weaver telling Ron Pearlman to go fuck himself. How can you not enjoy that?
The only thing I really like about Prometheus is some of the guy characters that get introduced and then killed. Idris Elba was awesome as a secondary character, although I would be a bit curious to have actually seen him bone the Charlize Theron character. Guy Piece was good, Michael Fassbender is interesting but then just goes all creepy. The rest of the movie almost had zero appeal to me. Covenant just picked up where Prometheus left off, just creepy. I never got into the AvP stuff. Didn't like the idea of a crossover. |
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Quoted: You should feel bad for your terribly wrong opinions. The first two movies were amazing (for different reasons). Everything else in the franchise is problematic in one way or another, and Prometheus is a giant steaming pile of shit of a movie, and so it the sequel (whatever it was called). View Quote Correct. Alien is a masterpiece of horror. |
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Quoted: The first was tolerable, after that meh. I started watching Prometheus the other night for the first time, not knowing it was in the series. It looked promising, then it started getting stupid feeling. Sure as shit, fucking Alien. I wanted Contact or Arrival, no, I get octopus snake Japanese porn. Aliens suck. View Quote That you liked Contact and Arrival explains it all. |
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I liked Prometheus more than Covenant. No follow on film was as good as the first two. Kind of like the Terminator franchise. Alien Resurrection was the Terminator Salvation equivalent.
Aliens is one of the greatest sci-fi action films of all time IMO. |
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Quoted: You should feel bad for your terribly wrong opinions. The first two movies were amazing (for different reasons). Everything else in the franchise is problematic in one way or another, and Prometheus is a giant steaming pile of shit of a movie, and so it the sequel (whatever it was called). View Quote This first two Aliens are what I call period correct scary movies circa 1979. Groundbreaking and like Jaws ahead of it’s time. Some of the other ones were Sequels that didn’t break new ground. |
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Aliens and Predator should have stopped after their late 1980s entries.
Predator is My all time favorite action movie. Though it's almost a tie with Aliens..It is sad seeing all the terrible Alien vs Predator movies and such being made. |
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Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. View Quote I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. |
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Two critically acclaimed genre defining films plus a bunch of mediocre sequels v.s. some dude from PA.
I'll give you a point the sequels are stupid, but if you don't see the value of the first two films and the change they ushered in to the science fiction scene then I take away the point. |
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Quoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. This. She isn't Stronk woman hear me roar I am better than man. She is scared shitless in #2 to go back, she does it and is still scared shitless until she finds Newt. Then motherly protective instincts kick in. |
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Quoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. View Quote One of the great things about the franchise is you don't really notice she's a woman, or at least stop paying attention after the action gets underway.. it's very unique in that way, and I don't care, it's just a kickass franchise happens to have a cutie doing the asskicking |
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I would agree with OP, but then we'd both be incredibly wrong.
At least about #1 and #2. |
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Quoted: I liked Prometheus more than Covenant. No follow on film was as good as the first two. Kind of like the Terminator franchise. Alien Resurrection was the Terminator Salvation equivalent. Aliens is one of the greatest sci-fi action films of all time IMO. View Quote Prometheus was a set up to show us how utterly stupid people are in the future. Covenant, showed us that the people in Prometheus were geniuses. I suspect earth at the time was full on idiocracy. Very little these people did was intelligent, or well thought out in advance. |
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Alien and Aliens are awesome! Prometheus and Covenant give me that weird unsettling vibe while watching it. You know? Almost like some kind of spiritual uneasy feeling that something's not right and I shouldn't be watching it. Maybe it's just me.
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Quoted: I liked Prometheus more than Covenant. No follow on film was as good as the first two. Kind of like the Terminator franchise. Alien Resurrection was the Terminator Salvation equivalent. Aliens is one of the greatest sci-fi action films of all time IMO. View Quote Prometheus was a set up to show us how utterly stupid people are in the future. Covenant, showed us that the people in Prometheus were geniuses. I suspect earth at the time was full on idiocracy. Very little these people did was intelligent, or well thought out in advance. Though the cinematography in Prometheus was gorgeous. |
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Aliens timeline is out of wack.
Prequel takes place in the distsnt future. All others take place in present time or near future. |
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The first wasn't even that good.
Good action movie. Sci Fi? No. The series requires no thought or critical thinking skills. It's border shock gore. |
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I enjoyed Prometheus. The next one, Resurrection, was fuggin retarded. Nearly unwatchable. I didn't make it to the end.
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Quoted: OP absolutely does not nail it. View Quote Quoted: The OP is lame. We should nuke this thread from orbit. View Quote Quoted: You should feel bad for your terribly wrong opinions. The first two movies were amazing (for different reasons). Everything else in the franchise is problematic in one way or another, and Prometheus is a giant steaming pile of shit of a movie, and so it the sequel (whatever it was called). View Quote |
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Quoted: I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. I disagree. She is not a Mary Sue. She fails and makes mistakes. She needs help at various crucial points. She has a lot of weakness. The plot doesn't make her eventual success ABOUT her being a woman. She just happens to be a woman. There are plenty of other women in both of the first movies - and they die like flies. There's nothing special about them being women (either on the Nostromo crew or in the Colonial Marines), and nothing really separates them from the men that are also dieing like flies. The only "woman" subtext in either movie is that her motherly instincts (and her grief over her dead daughter) is part of what drives her to protect Newt in the second movie. Other than that, her being a woman is pretty irrelevant to the movie. Alien 1 & 2 are among the very best movies with a strong female lead for exactly the reasons you say. But he did say if they were made today. You know they would be screwed up beyond all imagination with woke woman-good, man-bad horsecrap. They'd throw in some gay or trans pandering, along with thinly-disguised Trump bashing. And it would make a lot less money. |
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Literally millions of people disagree. Aliens was a great film. And a lot of fun watching it. A real live action-Virus, not some lab created bullshit.
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Quoted: I liked them. I always found it funny that those movies get so much live from GD though. If they were made today there would be much screeching about girl power wokeness. View Quote That's because she is using intelligence and bravery to survive, not beating up men twice her size and throwing them through plate glass windows. |
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I think Resurrection could have been a better movie. It had a unique creepy vibe to it. I think they should have had more of the pirate crew survive because that would have been the franchise's out on Ripley.
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