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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:11:57 PM EDT
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In a pinch, you could buy a long, cheap knife, remove the handle scales, and find a way to mount it directly to an M-lok handguard or picatinny rail.
I think it would be stable enough for a stabby stab, so long as the blade went sideways, between the ribs |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:14:28 PM EDT
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I bought a surplus bayonet at a gun club swap meet years ago. It didn’t fit any ARs with the standard flash hider. Years later, I figured out it was an M6 bayonet, for an M14. I have an M1A, but no bayonet mount, Cali style. I recently ordered the pliers and and a flash hider with bayonet mount from Midway, so I could attach the bayonet. It Still doesn’t go on all the way, I may have to do some filing to make it go on all the way. I know, cool story, bra.
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:15:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bayonets were rendered obsolete the day repeating rifles were invented. 
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY. At least in my opinion Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bayonets were rendered obsolete the day *detachable magazine-fed* repeating rifles were invented. FIFY. At least in my opinion
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought a surplus bayonet at a gun club swap meet years ago. It didn’t fit any ARs with the standard flash hider. Years later, I figured out it was an M6 bayonet, for an M14. I have an M1A, but no bayonet mount, Cali style. I recently ordered the pliers and and a flash hider with bayonet mount from Midway, so I could attach the bayonet. It Still doesn’t go on all the way, I may have to do some filing to make it go on all the way. I know, cool story, bra. The lack of a bayonet lug on the M1A with that device has nothing to do with Cali. Bayonet lugs are not a feature here with respect to our AWB. That's for other States with AWBs. It'd be nice if they made a version that had the bayonet lug for CA. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOooooooh, come to daddyyyyyyyy!!! |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:17:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I may have read a post more ignorant in my life, but it’s not coming to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bayonets were rendered obsolete the day repeating rifles were invented. I may have read a post more ignorant in my life, but it’s not coming to me. At least we can tell who's never served in an INFANTRY unit.
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/72384/20200228_140234-1297213.jpg You called? Forward Control Designs RHF4 rails, midlength upper with front sight base shaved down and reparked. But replace "sort of" with "oooooooh, come to daddyyyyyyy" .
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:22:17 PM EDT
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When you pokey pokey with a bayonet it is offensive to the pokee.
Yes, that is correct. I especially like when the pokee is a communist. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:23:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bayonets were rendered obsolete the day repeating rifles were invented. Obsolescent maybe, obsolete? never. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:24:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1st rule of any knife is don't get cut https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59914/m4_JPG-1449946.JPG the 2nd rule is go for the fore arms Everyone gets cut. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Night is still young. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I may have read a post more ignorant in my life, but it's not coming to me. Night is still young. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:28:24 PM EDT
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$30 4+ inch knife
buy this, remove the grips, bolt directly on to M-lok or Keymod full length handguard |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:28:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, technically, it's kill, kill, kill. But yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As posted above: what's the spirit of the bayonet? What makes the grass grow? What do we do? I can't believe some haven't said yet, but it is to kill Well, technically, it's kill, kill, kill. But yes |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know for sure at least one Hajji is enjoying his 72 virgins after an OKC3S blade was snapped off in his skull. That’s obviously not a regular occurrence but saying they are obsolete is pretty ignorant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nukes are hard to get and our enemies would have them if they could. On the other hand bayonets are everywhere and the only times you hear about them being used in combat after the civil war is when a commander thought it was a good idea to do a bayonet charge and got his troops killed. I know for sure at least one Hajji is enjoying his 72 virgins after an OKC3S blade was snapped off in his skull. That’s obviously not a regular occurrence but saying they are obsolete is pretty ignorant. Ignorant indeed. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ADCO did the work. I'm very pleased with them. They quoted me $75 for the service. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49763360632_524cba1cbc_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49786484421_0932f0daf2_c.jpg DAMN! That looks kick-ass!! 
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:32:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:35:20 PM EDT
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What makes the grass grow?
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:38:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5205/28B777F7-D4A0-45A7-9673-563840DBD911-1381092.jpg I hacked a FSB and drilled and tapped it for set screws That is a great idea. 
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:41:03 PM EDT
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Free floated rails and suppressors are a lot more useful.
But I can see the appeal of having a spear to fall back on for close-quarters weapons that have low capacity and are slow to reload, like pump action shotguns. I can also see the intimidation value for crowd control and people standing guard duty in Iraq or something. Not especially practical once real fighting actually starts, but I guess that isn't necessarily the point. I remember asking about this during boot camp (or might have been MCT, not sure). About what the practical purpose is of a bayonet when in the time it takes you to charge at someone and stab them, you could also reload a fresh magazine and put a few rounds in them faster and without having to leave cover. They basically told me that bayonets are still a habit we have left over from WW1/WW2-era tactics when infantry had bolt action rifles fed with 5-10 round clips, and we still teach it to teach violence of action and a spirit of aggression, but that they're only practical real-world value on a rifle anymore is as a quick backup weapon for when the bad guy is still right there in the room with you and your rifle just ran dry. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:52:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes the grass grow? Why that would be blood, blood, blood |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:53:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Free floated rails and suppressors are a lot more useful. But I can see the appeal of having a spear to fall back on for close-quarters weapons that have low capacity and are slow to reload, like pump action shotguns. I can also see the intimidation value for crowd control and people standing guard duty in Iraq or something. Not especially practical once real fighting actually starts, but I guess that isn't necessarily the point. I remember asking about this during boot camp (or might have been MCT, not sure). About what the practical purpose is of a bayonet when in the time it takes you to charge at someone and stab them, you could also reload a fresh magazine and put a few rounds in them faster and without having to leave cover. They basically told me that bayonets are still a habit we have left over from WW1/WW2-era tactics when infantry had bolt action rifles fed with 5-10 round clips, and we still teach it to teach violence of action and a spirit of aggression, but that they're only practical real-world value on a rifle anymore is as a quick backup weapon for when the bad guy is still right there in the room with you and your rifle just ran dry. I think they actually have a place on a CQB weapon. Trying to disarm a guy holding a carbine with a knife fixed to the muzzle seems like a fool’s errand... |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:56:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When was the last effective bayonet charge? |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 9:58:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why that would be blood, blood, blood Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What makes the grass grow? Why that would be blood, blood, blood And what do we do for a living, ladies? |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:07:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Free floated rails and suppressors are a lot more useful. But I can see the appeal of having a spear to fall back on for close-quarters weapons that have low capacity and are slow to reload, like pump action shotguns. I can also see the intimidation value for crowd control and people standing guard duty in Iraq or something. Not especially practical once real fighting actually starts, but I guess that isn't necessarily the point. I remember asking about this during boot camp (or might have been MCT, not sure). About what the practical purpose is of a bayonet when in the time it takes you to charge at someone and stab them, you could also reload a fresh magazine and put a few rounds in them faster and without having to leave cover. They basically told me that bayonets are still a habit we have left over from WW1/WW2-era tactics when infantry had bolt action rifles fed with 5-10 round clips, and we still teach it to teach violence of action and a spirit of aggression, but that they're only practical real-world value on a rifle anymore is as a quick backup weapon for when the bad guy is still right there in the room with you and your rifle just ran dry. My domicile is set up fine for using a bayonet on an HD rifle. Wouldn't be too long. Added intimidation factor could add to the possibility an intruder would just get scared and run off, provided they could see the blade. But then again if they aren't afraid of the gun would a blade on the gun make much difference? Maybe, idk, depends on dude. But if for whatever reason you have to pull the trigger and it goes click instead of bang, you still have a spear with a flashlight on it. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:09:07 PM EDT
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Stickin’ It To ‘Em – The Last of the Great Bayonet Charges
From the end of the article: 21st Century Bayonet Charges In the last ten years, British troops have resorted to the bayonet to break impasses in combat both in Iraq and Afghanistan. In May, 2004, a detachment from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders surprised a force of 100 insurgents near Al Amara, Iraq with a bayonet charge. British casualties were light, but nearly 28 guerrillas were killed. And as recently as October of 2011, a British Army lance corporal named Sean Jones led a squad of soldiers from the Prince of Wales Royal Regiment in a bayonet charge against Taliban fighters in Helmand Province, Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:20:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When was the last effective bayonet charge? Don't know about the last charge but there was one in the Korean war led by U.S. Army against the Chinese, I believe. It was about some particular officer or sergeant that trained his men to use bayonets. During the attack, his orders were something like, "Use hand grenades and cold steel". I don't remember much of what I read, but the hand grenades and cold steel order stood out. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think they actually have a place on a CQB weapon. Trying to disarm a guy holding a carbine with a knife fixed to the muzzle seems like a fool’s errand... I've never needed to disarm someone with a rifle, but it seems to me like bullets coming out the muzzle at almost Mach 3 would be a bigger hindrance to grabbing it than a knife on the end. I could try to grab other surface, which they would likely respond to by shooting the gun, which would negate the value of having the knife on the end. But like I said, I can definitely see their value as a backup CQB option when your gun runs dry and you still have an enemy right there in the room with you. But much more valuable on something with low capacity and slow reloading like a shotgun. Less so on a semiautomic carbine fed with 30rd detachable box magazines that can be reloaded in one second with practice. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:35:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, technically, it’s kill, kill, kill. But yes Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As posted above: what’s the spirit of the bayonet? What makes the grass grow? What do we do? I can't believe some haven't said yet, but it is to kill Well, technically, it’s kill, kill, kill. But yes Kill drill sergeant kill, for my BCT. (Ft Knox) |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:39:22 PM EDT
[#31]
 Amen. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 10:50:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know for sure at least one Hajji is enjoying his 72 virgins after an OKC3S blade was snapped off in his skull. That’s obviously not a regular occurrence but saying they are obsolete is pretty ignorant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Nukes are hard to get and our enemies would have them if they could. On the other hand bayonets are everywhere and the only times you hear about them being used in combat after the civil war is when a commander thought it was a good idea to do a bayonet charge and got his troops killed. I know for sure at least one Hajji is enjoying his 72 virgins after an OKC3S blade was snapped off in his skull. That’s obviously not a regular occurrence but saying they are obsolete is pretty ignorant. How surprised do you think he was when they were all guys? |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 11:13:58 PM EDT
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I carried an M7 every time I went overseas. They’re excellent for a number of purposes. There’s definitely a psychological advantage to them. Most people have never been shot, but everyone has been cut some time in their life.
And then there’s all the other stupid things you end up using them for. I won’t go to war without one and consider them an essential part for any rifle. |
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Posted: 6/6/2020 11:23:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How surprised do you think he was when they were all guys? I’m sure he was pleased 
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Posted: 6/7/2020 1:46:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 3:44:39 AM EDT
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Bayonets are great for making Japanese tourists keep their distance from you.
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Posted: 6/7/2020 8:11:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Likely not possible to modify that setup for a bayonet. You'd need a different barrel, gas block, and handguard. Picatinny it is then... 
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Posted: 6/7/2020 10:46:38 AM EDT
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After the stabby stabbies, check your zero on your pencil barrel
Bayonets seem to make AP reporters nervous  |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 11:18:04 AM EDT
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH , KILL KILL KILL. And back in the day, "WITH A SLASH" . oooooh raaaahhh.
GO to 2:20  Marine Corps Basic Training: Bayonet Assault Course IMOP, it still has a place as it can come into use for other things, after all it is a tool. |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 11:31:37 AM EDT
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Rifles run out of ammo and expire.
The bayonet is an immortal weapon. |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 11:33:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 11:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the spirit of the bayonet?! |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 11:48:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:03:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:03:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:10:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Needs more stabby stabby
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:33:22 PM EDT
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You mean like.. it has BO and farts at inappropriate times?
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:39:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy gerbil. So bayonets on shotguns is a thing?!! I learned something new. Been a thing since trench warfare/riot suppression... Remington model 1910 trench gun. |
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Posted: 6/7/2020 12:58:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2020 1:31:31 PM EDT
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Bayonet options:
several styles: https://shop.triple-r-products.com/BAYONET-ADAPTERS-EXTENSIONS-AR15_c3.htm general clamp on https://shop.triple-r-products.com/Clamp-on-Bolt-On-AR15-Bayonet-lug-AR15CLP400.htm on the side mount to modern handguards https://www.apgdefense.com/product-page/universal-bayonet-mount 16" carbine mounts https://www.apgdefense.com/product-page/bayonet-lug-extender |
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