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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:04:23 PM EDT
 Scud ballistic missile being launched Assad forces Syrian army An-Nasiriya Damascus Syria Anyone here have any stories about this thing? I noticed that there's an outfit selling a recovered Scud rocket motor for a few thousand bucks. I don't intend to buy it. I just think these rockets are interesting. Some years ago I recall reading an article where the metaphor was used, "with all the precision and efficacy of a Scud missile." 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:07:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Saint_Peter]
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Originally Posted By Hesperus:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjn3Y0FvYlkAnyone here have any stories about this thing? I noticed that there's an outfit selling a recovered Scud rocket motor for a few thousand bucks. I don't intend to buy it. I just think these rockets are interesting. Some years ago I recall reading an article where the metaphor was used, "with all the precision and efficacy of a Scud missile." I've had a few shot at me. They missed or were shot down. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:09:39 PM EDT
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But we did have to face... their weapon of death. The Scud missile. If K-Mart were a weapon's dealer, they would make the Scud missile. But it's kind of like a smart bomb. You just fire it out of the trunk of your car... and then turn on CNN to see where it landed! So it's kind of like a smart bomb!
-Sam Kinison |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:10:09 PM EDT
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A friend of mine , Steve Atherton, was killed during Desert Storm when a scud hit his unit's area. He was a weekend warrior, and got deployed. Great kid, extremely funny,loved to have fun.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:15:27 PM EDT
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Saw plenty of them in 1990-1991. We'd have 2-3 SCUD alerts a night while in Riyadh. Even had one that was shot down by a patriot battery spew its remnants all over our motorpool. Once we moved north, just saw them at max height passing over. Running up 4 flights of stairs while trying to don MOPP-4 was a complete bitch. Was so glad to put Khobar Towers behind me and settle in just south of the Iraqi border.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeepdad: A friend of mine , Steve Atherton, was killed during Desert Storm when a scud hit his unit's area. He was a weekend warrior, and got deployed. Great kid, extremely funny,loved to have fun. Sorry to hear, that was the other Tower City that the PA guard was in. I think it was close to Dhahran. We heard about that and it hastened our departure out of those cities. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:19:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Harmonic_Distortion]
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One of the surplus places had one for sale a few weeks ago. A fired Desert Storm example.
ETA: https://www.apexgunparts.com/scud-missile-inert-rocket-engine-and-components-recovered-in-saudi-arabia-good.html |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:20:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hesperus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjn3Y0FvYlkAnyone here have any stories about this thing? I noticed that there's an outfit selling a recovered Scud rocket motor for a few thousand bucks. I don't intend to buy it. I just think these rockets are interesting. Some years ago I recall reading an article where the metaphor was used, "with all the precision and efficacy of a Scud missile." |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:02:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: It's not dramatically more advanced than the V2. I think that's a big part of the appeal, at least as far as most customers were concerned. Not countries that are going to spend millions on maintenance of their toys. Unless it's Dear Leader's armored Mercedes 600. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:26:54 PM EDT
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The littlefield collection had a TEL/Scud complete
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:37:02 PM EDT
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Mmmmm gigantic cloud of dinitrogen tetroxide.
Probably killed more guys that shot them than the missile ever did. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:41:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Beretta_Jerry]
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How many Iraqis does it take to launch one?
Three. One to load, one to launch, and one to watch CNN to see where it lands. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beretta_Jerry: How many Iraqis does it take to launch one? Three. One to load, one to watch, and one to watch CNN to see where it lands.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:25:33 PM EDT
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The Afghans had “some” left over from the Soviet days…along with some of their larger MLRSs (tons of the little 107 trailers and rockets everywhere).
Operational? I doubt it and the ones that weren’t in DDR salvage yards were painted up in parade livery and used in parades. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:30:51 PM EDT
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Used to keep a Scud missile Desert Storm trading card in my school folder. On the front clear side.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Used to keep a Scud missile Desert Storm trading card in my school folder. On the front clear side. 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beretta_Jerry: How many Iraqis does it take to launch one? Three. One to load, one to watch, and one to watch CNN to see where it lands. Don't they have a CEP of around 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile? With a nuke that's not bad |
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:37:58 PM EDT
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They gained fame and popularity for Gen x, watching them miss and then got t wrecked for FAFO!
Watched in live in history class, i was in 7th grade. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:38:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 18B30: The littlefield collection had a TEL/Scud complete Two of them. One of them on a tracked TEL, the other on a typical wheeled TEL. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Don't they have a CEP of around 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile? With a nuke that's not bad Yeah their CEP was generally terrible aside from like the last variant that got it to like 100m or something like that. The soviets never used that one, but did export it IIRC. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:55:06 PM EDT
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society conveniently forgot that sadam shot those missiles at Israel indiscriminately and there was the constant mention of gas warheads.
He terrorized them. There were fatalities if I recall correctly. And the US begged Israel not to retaliate. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:59:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JAFFE]
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I got to see more than a handful of inbound attacks on various bases in DS. Also saw the corresponding Patriot launches. One Patriot intercept exploded above the airfield and I got to hear metal bouncing on concrete.
Scuds were launched at Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Qatar. Military and civilian targets. The one that hit the barracks in Dhahran killed 27 (28?) and wounded over 100. The Scuds launched at Israel were done to try and force an Israeli response which could have fractured the Coalition. The US worked to keep Israel out of the conflict. There were injuries, a few deaths, and a lot of property damage in Israel IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:59:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: society conveniently forgot that sadam shot those missiles at Israel indiscriminately and there was the constant mention of gas warheads. He terrorized them. There were fatalities if I recall correctly. And the US begged Israel not to retaliate. He also shot them indiscriminately into Saudi Arabia as well. Riyadh, Dhahran, and other places were "targeted". By targeted, I mean launched in the general direction of. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:02:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: He also shot them indiscriminately into Saudi Arabia as well. Riyadh, Dhahran, and other places were "targeted". By targeted, I mean launched in the general direction of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: Originally Posted By networkguru: society conveniently forgot that sadam shot those missiles at Israel indiscriminately and there was the constant mention of gas warheads. He terrorized them. There were fatalities if I recall correctly. And the US begged Israel not to retaliate. He also shot them indiscriminately into Saudi Arabia as well. Riyadh, Dhahran, and other places were "targeted". By targeted, I mean launched in the general direction of. This. Not to mention Israel bombed Iraq in the 80s. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:02:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAFFE: I got to see more than a handful of inbound attacks on various bases in DS. Also saw the corresponding Patriot launches. One Patriot intercept exploded above the airfield and I got to hear metal bouncing on concrete. Scuds were launched at Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Qatar. Military and civilian targets. The one that hit the barracks in Dhahran killed 27 (28?) and wounded over 100. The Scuds launched at Israel were done to try and force an Israeli response which could have fractured the Coalition. The US worked to keep Israel out of the conflict. There were injuries, a few deaths, and a lot of property damage in Israel IIRC. The same airfield where Gen Schwarzkopf had his blackhawk? I used to be in that vicinity quite often. I might even have a pic of his UH-60, it was the first time I saw dual ext fuel tanks on a chopper. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:03:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: This. Not to mention Israel bombed Iraq in the 80s. I'm still hoping they do an encore visit to Iran's nuke program. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:10:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: The same airfield where Gen Schwarzkopf had his blackhawk? I used to be in that vicinity quite often. I might even have a pic of his UH-60, it was the first time I saw dual ext fuel tanks on a chopper. Not sure? Dhahran, Riyadh, and King Fahd. Several times each at Dhahran and Riyadh. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:20:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beretta_Jerry: How many Iraqis does it take to launch one? Three. One to load, one to launch, and one to watch CNN to see where it lands. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:27:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: I'm still hoping they do an encore visit to Iran's nuke program. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: Originally Posted By Scalped: This. Not to mention Israel bombed Iraq in the 80s. I'm still hoping they do an encore visit to Iran's nuke program. I don't. Operation Merlin, Stuxnet et al. scuttled those beardies' plans without risking all out war. Pretty sure with advances in digital technology we can do it again. Of course that requires the departure of many spineless ass-clowns from the WH first. Work smarter, not harder. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:41:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rooster-X: Was so glad to put Khobar Towers behind me... Brennan becoming director after this happened while he was station chief almost seems like they let it happen on porpoise  |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 7:21:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: society conveniently forgot that sadam shot those missiles at Israel indiscriminately and there was the constant mention of gas warheads. He terrorized them. There were fatalities if I recall correctly. And the US begged Israel not to retaliate. It was a very fragile coalition. By launching, Sadam hoped to goad Israel into retaliation, which would have shattered the coalition. No coalition, no unified response to Iraq. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 7:46:48 PM EDT
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Saw a bunch of them launched into the night while I was near the neutral zone on advanced party.
My unit was in Cement City during the time they were being launched frequently. Wife unit got to see some intercepted by the patriot batteries before the unit moved North. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 7:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jeepdad: A friend of mine , Steve Atherton, was killed during Desert Storm when a scud hit his unit's area. He was a weekend warrior, and got deployed. Great kid, extremely funny,loved to have fun. 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By networkguru: society conveniently forgot that sadam shot those missiles at Israel indiscriminately and there was the constant mention of gas warheads. He terrorized them. There were fatalities if I recall correctly. And the US begged Israel not to retaliate. Enter the SAS and scud hunting. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Mmmmm gigantic cloud of dinitrogen tetroxide. Probably killed more guys that shot them than the missile ever did. Russian IRFNA is about 20% N2O4. American IRFNA was 13%N2O4. Just fyi |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:22:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:22:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Russians have been using the predecessor in Ukraine.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:18:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Russians have been using the predecessor in Ukraine. I think the conflict in Ukraine has been the most. "Hit them with everything including the kitchen sink!" War I've ever seen in my lifetime. Gulf War part 1 probably being second because it happened at an odd time in history when a lot of different weapons systems were being decommissioned while others had either just come online or were about to. If someone starts hucking new build copies of V-1 Pulsejet Cruise Missiles at Kiev I wouldn't be too shocked. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:26:10 PM EDT
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Good old scuds.
Not sure if someone will get their panties in a bunch if I put this inline. https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/76f7ea37-2b7e-4523-83f1-a96d8015234c/dw1j38-5ec8e4f9-4373-416a-b0ee-38c4f40dc56c.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2FkIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi83NmY3ZWEzNy0yYjdlLTQ1MjMtODNmMS1hOTZkODAxNTIzNGMvZHcxajM4LTVlYzhlNGY5LTQzNzMtNDE2YS1iMGVlLTM4YzRmNDBkYzU2Yy5qcGcifV1dfQ.O8xV73YGkSlC9ZG6KPZYpZXGgDR-Ws5atFGddNHVn1o |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:37:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: I think the conflict in Ukraine has been the most. "Hit them with everything including the kitchen sink!" War I've ever seen in my lifetime. Gulf War part 1 probably being second because it happened at an odd time in history when a lot of different weapons systems were being decommissioned while others had either just come online or were about to. If someone starts hucking new build copies of V-1 Pulsejet Cruise Missiles at Kiev I wouldn't be too shocked. As a fan of Soviet vehicles it’s been a sight to behold. |
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