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Update 8/25 Yesterday was a great day. My students jumped in headfirst on this project. I was kind of shocked at the excitement and commitment many showed on only the 3rd day of school.  First, a big thanks to Sherwin & Williams in Cody, WY for the generous donations yesterday. I ordered 2 gal of paint, and a few rolls of tape. The rest was donated.    We pulled down the old shield and sword so we could get the room ready for paint. They were excited to see how well the shield was built.  Students learned how to use jig saws yesterday. We made lots of sawdust. We got several of the bases for the tiers cut out.  Groups started working to turn our skeletons into Vikings. They were adding epoxy to the faces and arms to flesh them out.  This group was super excited to work on the dragon. They pulled off the flat sides of the skull so we could trace around them to start sculpting foam. Several students asked when they could come in on their own time to work more. That's pretty cool.  We got a 24" base cut out for the tower, along with 18" tower sections and 22" top of tower sections. We need to get the rest of the centers cut out, then we can go vertical.  |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Update 8/25 Yesterday was a great day. My students jumped in headfirst on this project. I was kind of shocked at the excitement and commitment many showed on only the 3rd day of school. First, a big thanks to Sherwin & Williams in Cody, WY for the generous donations yesterday. I ordered 2 gal of paint, and a few rolls of tape. The rest was donated. https://i.imgur.com/cPAKDIa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lfclvly.jpg We pulled down the old shield and sword so we could get the room ready for paint. They were excited to see how well the shield was built. https://i.imgur.com/D7CiP1Q.jpg Students learned how to use jig saws yesterday. We made lots of sawdust. We got several of the bases for the tiers cut out. https://i.imgur.com/IBCdp8t.jpg Groups started working to turn our skeletons into Vikings. They were adding epoxy to the faces and arms to flesh them out. https://i.imgur.com/4GVctNt.jpg This group was super excited to work on the dragon. They pulled off the flat sides of the skull so we could trace around them to start sculpting foam. Several students asked when they could come in on their own time to work more. That's pretty cool. https://i.imgur.com/pagmssJ.jpg We got a 24" base cut out for the tower, along with 18" tower sections and 22" top of tower sections. We need to get the rest of the centers cut out, then we can go vertical. https://i.imgur.com/Ch5TLus.jpg It’s awesome to see the kids jump right in to work!  |
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Originally Posted By raffi383: Guns, Will the face of the clock be replaced by a sundial? What did vikings use to tell time? I have no idea. ⅛ days How do day marks work Nothing extra used, just where sun is in sky relative to the horizon it never rose much above. |
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Originally Posted By brass: ⅛ days How do day marks work Nothing extra used, just where sun is in sky relative to the horizon it never rose much above. @brass, Thanks for the link. Very interesting. |
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Model Viking Ship I built Aurora's (RIP) Viking ship a few decades ago.... |
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Update 8/28 I've struggled to get pictures, as we've been crazy busy. Im running around each hour trying to get everyone going, and everyone has questions. I'll do better.  Students are cutting out plywood and foam pieces every hour.  Late today, we began assembling parts for the tower and the English church landscape.  There was a lot of planning and discussion about how to sculpt our dragon. We are working on the head specifically right now. We want get a basic shape, then work from there.  |
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Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: Model Viking Ship I built Aurora's (RIP) Viking ship a few decades ago.... That's cool. I'll have to see if I've got anyone who would take on something like that. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, are you going to completely rebuild the existing dragon, or simply modify it? Modify and build on to it. Our former SRI officer stopped by today to say hi. He helped with the dragon, years ago. He had an idea of using a fake alligator print to cover our new scales. We will have to see if we can find something that is not too pricy. Cutting it up into pieces that are like one foot square in size and applying them over the drawing board would look pretty amazing. The lights and plastic would fill in between. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Modify and build on to it. Our former SRI officer stopped by today to say hi. He helped with the dragon, years ago. He had an idea of using a fake alligator print to cover our new scales. We will have to see if we can find something that is not too pricy. Cutting it up into pieces that are like one foot square in size and applying them over the drawing board would look pretty amazing. The lights and plastic would fill in between. Tiling 101 ✔️ Riveting 101 ✔️ Riveting 201✔️ Riveting 301✔️ Scaling ?? |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Modify and build on to it. Our former SRI officer stopped by today to say hi. He helped with the dragon, years ago. He had an idea of using a fake alligator print to cover our new scales. We will have to see if we can find something that is not too pricy. Cutting it up into pieces that are like one foot square in size and applying them over the drawing board would look pretty amazing. The lights and plastic would fill in between. Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By backbencher: guns, are you going to completely rebuild the existing dragon, or simply modify it? Modify and build on to it. Our former SRI officer stopped by today to say hi. He helped with the dragon, years ago. He had an idea of using a fake alligator print to cover our new scales. We will have to see if we can find something that is not too pricy. Cutting it up into pieces that are like one foot square in size and applying them over the drawing board would look pretty amazing. The lights and plastic would fill in between. Louisiana alligator hunt? @midcap |
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Ever wonder how the Vikings rowed across the North Atlantic and not freeze to death? There was a group that replicated their clothes and tested them. They actually out performed most modern outfits. So how about a viking "smoke jumper" dressed in Viking clothes? A lot of the items could be replicated. Steve |
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Originally Posted By EBR666: Ever wonder how the Vikings rowed across the North Atlantic and not freeze to death? There was a group that replicated their clothes and tested them. They actually out performed most modern outfits. So how about a viking "smoke jumper" dressed in Viking clothes? A lot of the items could be replicated. Steve I've got a 5ft skeleton picked out to ride our dragon. He's going to need clothes. Not sure how authentic we can get, but it will be a fun project. |
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Originally Posted By armoredman: Off to the side, get some paint and taxidermy students involved - paint the face of Odin on the ceiling glowering down and two stuffed ravens hanging down, circling around him, maybe? BTW, guns, what was that mailing address for donations/shipments/gag gifts? PHS Art Guild Powell High School 1151 E 7th St. Powell, WY 82435 Already talked to students about crows.....Ravens are protected, but crows will look good. Most people won't know the difference, other than size. |
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Thanks for posting these. I printed them off today to help students envision how we should be progressing with the ship.
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Originally Posted By guns762: Thanks for posting these. I printed them off today to help students envision how we should be progressing with the ship. Originally Posted By guns762: Thanks for posting these. I printed them off today to help students envision how we should be progressing with the ship. I think the biggest boost/upgrade will be Mural work on all the walls. Those seem much more alive than just a single item hanging down. How far you've come, wasn't this the first thing you did or was it wells fargo or snoopy? |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: I think the biggest boost/upgrade will be Mural work on all the walls. Those seem much more alive than just a single item hanging down. How far you've come, wasn't this the first thing you did or was it wells fargo or snoopy? The murals and 3D elements really seem to make the rooms. Sophwith Camel was #1. Viking ship was #2 Dragon was #3 Stagecoach was #4 |
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Update 8/29 Big surprises awaited in my mailbox this morning...... As it is every year, ARFCOM is incredibly generous and supportive.  @Frank_B THANK YOU!   @Uncle_Eric Amazing generosity. Thank you, again!   We are about ready to begin assembly of the dragon head foam flats. The young lady running the jigsaw is an exchange student from France. She seems to be enjoying the class so far. She paired up with one of my veteran students and they are getting work done!  Getting the base of our tower secured around the pole. We should have the basic frame up by the end of the day.   Zombie Viking sculpture coming along well. Students are enjoying this. So my inbox doesn't fill up with hate, the fabric is not an American flag. 
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Originally Posted By guns762: The murals and 3D elements really seem to make the rooms. Sophwith Camel was #1. Viking ship was #2 Dragon was #3 Stagecoach was #4 Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By brass: I think the biggest boost/upgrade will be Mural work on all the walls. Those seem much more alive than just a single item hanging down. How far you've come, wasn't this the first thing you did or was it wells fargo or snoopy? The murals and 3D elements really seem to make the rooms. Sophwith Camel was #1. Viking ship was #2 Dragon was #3 Stagecoach was #4 I really lose track on those. Back then you'd show a thread of middle and then ending touch ups and asking what to add. It wasn't until the Stagecoach that there was an "official build thread" that stayed as detailed as these have grown into, and how they have grown! Simply amazing students and progress reports. Any word on the tablet walk-throughs and overview/story in each display cove? A build slideshow and added media of recognition and original vision/reasons and the like? Maybe some power point as an assignment for the multimedia or equivalent classes? Get all total artsy on it so museums have to upgrade to keep up with the high school art department. --ETA: Welcome, France! 🇫🇷 |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: I really lose track on those. Back then you'd show a thread of middle and then ending touch ups and asking what to add. It wasn't until the Stagecoach that there was an "official build thread" that stayed as detailed as these have grown into, and how they have grown! Simply amazing students and progress reports. Any word on the tablet walk-throughs and overview/story in each display cove? A build slideshow and added media of recognition and original vision/reasons and the like? Maybe some power point as an assignment for the multimedia or equivalent classes? Get all total artsy on it so museums have to upgrade to keep up with the high school art department. --ETA: Welcome, France! 🇫🇷 I asked about the monitors last week. The head secretary has my back pretty good. She said she was keeping the request in front of him. I'm waiting.....not so patiently.  If need be, we could probably purchase them, but I'd rather the school buy them per our agreement about my class sizes being so large last year. It was part of my informal negotiations.
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Originally Posted By guns762: I asked about the monitors last week. The head secretary has my back pretty good. She said she was keeping the request in front of him. I'm waiting.....not so patiently. If need be, we could probably purchase them, but I'd rather the school buy them per our agreement about my class sizes being so large last year. It was part of my informal negotiations. Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By brass: I really lose track on those. Back then you'd show a thread of middle and then ending touch ups and asking what to add. It wasn't until the Stagecoach that there was an "official build thread" that stayed as detailed as these have grown into, and how they have grown! Simply amazing students and progress reports. Any word on the tablet walk-throughs and overview/story in each display cove? A build slideshow and added media of recognition and original vision/reasons and the like? Maybe some power point as an assignment for the multimedia or equivalent classes? Get all total artsy on it so museums have to upgrade to keep up with the high school art department. --ETA: Welcome, France! 🇫🇷 I asked about the monitors last week. The head secretary has my back pretty good. She said she was keeping the request in front of him. I'm waiting.....not so patiently. If need be, we could probably purchase them, but I'd rather the school buy them per our agreement about my class sizes being so large last year. It was part of my informal negotiations. Your class should count as 2 or even 3. Wood shop intro, project management, and art from painting to sculpting and building is all encompassed and even some Home Ec and random other things people need to know. Have the other teachers challenged their students a bit to match? The kids you have are clearly intelligent and keen enough to rise to any reasonable challenge instead of getting board. Don't want to run the risk of burning them out, hard to do at the same time though. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I asked about the monitors last week. The head secretary has my back pretty good. She said she was keeping the request in front of him. I'm waiting.....not so patiently. If need be, we could probably purchase them, but I'd rather the school buy them per our agreement about my class sizes being so large last year. It was part of my informal negotiations. |
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Update 8/30 Classes are starting to get into a rhythm, and groups are figuring out what needs to get done. There is still a lot of apprehensiveness, as students don't think they know what we are doing..... neither do I. Our keels. We glued and screwed the plywood together. Matching up was not as successful as needed, so we are using the belt sander to get them more identical.  While looking at details, we were thinking the keel needed rounded off on the edges. That doesn't seem correct. We did find that, we probably should attempt a carving on the keel.  I've got a student who jumped at the opportunity to draw out the pattern. We are going to try to use a router to then plunge carve the basics of the design into the plywood. Not sure how successful we will be, but the students want to give it a shot. Our landscape tiers are progressing. We have the 2x4 locking edges cut and attached. We will unscrew the bottom half to attach to the walls, and have the top half slip over and lock the tier to the wall.    These two are planning out how the mountain will look that will be above our Viking village.  More detailed faces on our skeletons. The epoxy they are using is producing some nice details. Some students started using hot glue to build up material, then add the epoxy over top. Pretty smart. Less material wasted.    Dragon parts continue to be cut out. Students fit the parts to the head yesterday, then determined how much more material they would need to sculpt the head.   Once they had a plan, they glued the slabs together and started carving. The two halves are just pressed together right now, as they still have to have the skeleton head in between. We wanted to make sure the sides were symmetrical, as they carved. They were using the one handed sawsall. It was a little intimidating for them to start.   Our tower did not get done being framed yesterday.  I overestimated our speed.  |
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Real interested to see what happens with the carvings/relief engravings. That's some really intricate stuff, like a Dremel small ball and a couple hundred hours level of detail.. --ETA: Keep power cord behind belt sander, not in front of it or anywhere it might jump to. Should be on floor and only coming up behind it. Just for future reference... |
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Originally Posted By raffi383: For the carving, would it be better to use a solid piece of wood instead of plywood? I don't know. Just wondering. You could add the additional pieces of wood to the outside surfaces of the plywood. |
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Originally Posted By Ashraam: Or thin layers of balsa wood? Would be easy to cut and layer as needed for different depths. Originally Posted By Ashraam: Originally Posted By raffi383: For the carving, would it be better to use a solid piece of wood instead of plywood? I don't know. Just wondering. You could add the additional pieces of wood to the outside surfaces of the plywood. They have access to a Shop Bot, a 2.5D computer controlled router. If they could break the carving down into deep, middle and high areas, the router could mark those out with a 1/8" bit and a day of time. Then it would be up to them to Dremel or hand carve out the finger bits of relieve detail and bevel the joins between the two different level the ShopBot cut. They'd first need to scan it and make the dimensioned 3D model of what they want the ShopBot to do, which is the hardest part. If they can get over that hump it'd be a little easier. Doing carvings on a larger scale but the same concept could be done by hand and plunge router, unless router decides to take off in some random direction, which is usually what they do when you need to be precise. |
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Originally Posted By brass: They have access to a Shop Bot, a 2.5D computer controlled router. If they could break the carving down into deep, middle and high areas, the router could mark those out with a 1/8" bit and a day of time. Then it would be up to them to Dremel or hand carve out the finger bits of relieve detail and bevel the joins between the two different level the ShopBot cut. They'd first need to scan it and make the dimensioned 3D model of what they want the ShopBot to do, which is the hardest part. If they can get over that hump it'd be a little easier. Doing carvings on a larger scale but the same concept could be done by hand and plunge router, unless router decides to take off in some random direction, which is usually what they do when you need to be precise. New woodshop teacher. It will be some time before he can make the v carve work again. He has almost no support from tech to do this. It's going to be tough. The knowledge that students had, graduated last year. The last teacher had no interest in it, so it sat, unused. Students didn't learn it, so now....we are where we are. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: New woodshop teacher. It will be some time before he can make the v carve work again. He has almost no support from tech to do this. It's going to be tough. The knowledge that students had, graduated last year. The last teacher had no interest in it, so it sat, unused. Students didn't learn it, so now....we are where we are. That's sad. The majority of jobs in that topic will be automated. Maybe teach shop teacher to draw and make a 3D print on one of the printers. The once he has tat down, get him to the router control program and make sure he understand that is flipped form 3D? printing, now it's subtracting material instead of adding it. Shouldn't be too hard. Usually the big hurdle is getting a dimension drawing/model that comes out of print just fine. I suppose 3D printing the various dragons and scales and then gluing them onto the side of the keel so they look engraved might work. Just need to match the keel color on the plastic. |
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Originally Posted By brass: That's sad. The majority of jobs in that topic will be automated. Maybe teach shop teacher to draw and make a 3D print on one of the printers. The once he has tat down, get him to the router control program and make sure he understand that is flipped form 3D? printing, now it's subtracting material instead of adding it. Shouldn't be too hard. Usually the big hurdle is getting a dimension drawing/model that comes out of print just fine. I suppose 3D printing the various dragons and scales and then gluing them onto the side of the keel so they look engraved might work. Just need to match the keel color on the plastic. He will get it. He's determined and he sees the value in teaching it to the students. I like the idea of 3D printing in plastic. Not a bad plan. I'll talk to our Robotics teacher. We might be able to.come up with a plan. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: New woodshop teacher. It will be some time before he can make the v carve work again. He has almost no support from tech to do this. It's going to be tough. The knowledge that students had, graduated last year. The last teacher had no interest in it, so it sat, unused. Students didn't learn it, so now....we are where we are. Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By brass: They have access to a Shop Bot, a 2.5D computer controlled router. If they could break the carving down into deep, middle and high areas, the router could mark those out with a 1/8" bit and a day of time. Then it would be up to them to Dremel or hand carve out the finger bits of relieve detail and bevel the joins between the two different level the ShopBot cut. They'd first need to scan it and make the dimensioned 3D model of what they want the ShopBot to do, which is the hardest part. If they can get over that hump it'd be a little easier. Doing carvings on a larger scale but the same concept could be done by hand and plunge router, unless router decides to take off in some random direction, which is usually what they do when you need to be precise. New woodshop teacher. It will be some time before he can make the v carve work again. He has almost no support from tech to do this. It's going to be tough. The knowledge that students had, graduated last year. The last teacher had no interest in it, so it sat, unused. Students didn't learn it, so now....we are where we are. |
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Update 8/31 We had discussions about the keel carving. I've got students who seriously want to try to do it with the router. We may attempt it on our 3rd ship bow. The robotics teacher thinks we can get a cad drawing out of the photographs, and use it to make 3D shallow prints we can glue in place. I need to talk to the CAD teacher and see if he and his students can get what we need. Students have created some keel support brackets that will allow us to attach the bow and stern sections to the 2x6.  We don't have the right angle attachment point for the bow, so we are cutting to make it join at the right angle. It should be rising just before the end of the 2x6. It's sitting too low attached like this.   Skeletons continue to get more flesh.  Our Nordic mountain village tier getting formed up.  We worked to get a jig set up to hold our foam dragon slabs. We got a little carried away with the shaping yesterday afternoon. Not the end of the world. It will take a little extra work later.    Our tower is not framed up. We are working to get our sides on today.   Adding blocks to the outer edge of the octagons so we can attach the panel sides.   |
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ETA: @Sixtigers generously donated this to us. Thank you!!!!!  
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Update 9/1 Frantic Friday edition. 30min classes again this year on Friday. Students are done at 12:50, so we are fast and furious through those 30min. A package showed up today, that I have no idea who(Arfcomer) sent it. I'll get some pictures of students opening it soon, and get them posted. Yesterday we found out, we forgot to check for length on our keel before attaching the bow and stern.  Supposed to be 16'. Oops.  So, cut down 16" and refit. The keel still needs some clean up in our lines. We want this to flow a little better. Belt sander is doing good work.   We had to adjust our dragon jig a bit, as it was too wide. With that fixed students started working on carving out the facial features. We also switched references to a less skeletor looking dragon, and one with a bit more flesh on the face.   Students began working on the hill for the English abby. We want it high enough that we can see it from below.  Students were also designing a cave system that will be under the Viking village tier.  We got some paint on the walls yesterday, and will continue to paint our ocean view.  Making progress on the tower. We've had a couple things we had to go back and rework a bit, but the basic shape is coming together. Students will figure out what details need to go where next week. 
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guns, have you considered painting the floor? In the Army, we would take entire classrooms and turn them into walkable sand tables, a 2-D map of the space we would occupy, but large enough to walk on. It made a great briefing tool, in this case you could perhaps show England & Scotland in relation to Norway and the Dutch province of Denmark. You could let the History & Geography classes get really nerdy w/ it and use different colors for different eras, such as orange for the Viking raids and Red for the Nazi occupation of Norway & the Netherlands, and the British raids on Norway and Holland. |
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