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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:21:20 AM EDT
Regardless of the technical details, this is not good.
NBC News obtained a photo showing results of a test on a steel wall prototype. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/test-steel-prototype-border-wall-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:21:48 AM EDT
[#1]
How quickly?
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:23:05 AM EDT
[#2]
yeah, but it funnels them into one place and shows where they cross.
your gun safe could easily be cut through with a cutoff tool (see youtube). You still use a safe. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:24:19 AM EDT
[#3]
Electrify it.
Or turn it into high pressure steam piping. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:24:29 AM EDT
[#4]
I like the walls the Izzys build around the Palestinian cities and villages.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:24:50 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm sure your garden variety political refugee could accomplish that is 30 minutes with a hacksaw blade and some duct tape.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:25:01 AM EDT
[#6]
Anything that can be built can be demo’d...
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:25:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Neat, now lace that concrete with high explosives. Should solve that cutting torch and sawzall problem.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:25:07 AM EDT
[#8]
Moat filled with HIV+ piranhas.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:25:32 AM EDT
[#9]
People have broken out of prisons in the past, does that mean we should just let them all go?
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:26:36 AM EDT
[#10]
NBC said that did they? I wonder what "common tools" they were referring to because that pic looks like it took a fucking plasma cutting torch
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:26:48 AM EDT
[#11]
Can the illegals dodge bullets ?
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:26:50 AM EDT
[#12]
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People have broken out of prisons in the past, does that mean we should just let them all go? 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:27:28 AM EDT
[#13]
I'm curious how "common industrial tools" and a source of power arrive at the border?
That article is severely lacking in facts and very rich in political manipulation. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:28:10 AM EDT
[#14]
Fill the tubes with nerve gas under pressure.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:28:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Barrier = force mulitplier.
A barrier with zero force still yields zero force. A wall with a little bit of force yields a shitload of force. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:29:19 AM EDT
[#16]
FNBC
Hated them since they faked pickups exploding in fireballs Lying POS commies. ETA: did Brian Williams witness the test? |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:29:22 AM EDT
[#17]
The libs will say they should lift the shutdown, and spend more time on a better design before funding is authorized.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:29:35 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I like the walls the Izzys build around the Palestinian cities and villages. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:29:43 AM EDT
[#19]
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How quickly? Even if it can be cut with tools, it's far more difficult to get through the fence than if there were no fence at all. With regular patrolling and maintenance, this is a non-issue. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:30:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Is that box steel filled with sand?
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:31:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Sawing through the wall should release the pit bulls, wolves and coyotes to feast on those doing the sawing.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:31:37 AM EDT
[#22]
Crank up the genny and get to grinding.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:32:30 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm curious how "common industrial tools" and a source of power arrive at the border? That article is severely lacking in facts and very rich in political manipulation. 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:32:56 AM EDT
[#24]
Sub it out to the Chinese they're good at walls.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:33:35 AM EDT
[#25]
Put an 8' chain link fence 25' away from the wall. Patrolled by packs of "rescue pit bulls".
As soon as they poke their face through any breech... Nom nom nom |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:33:48 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Electrify it. Or turn it into high pressure steam piping. 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:33:57 AM EDT
[#27]
Concrete wall
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:34:19 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
NBC said that did they? I wonder what "common tools" they were referring to because that pic looks like it took a fucking plasma cutting torch |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:34:27 AM EDT
[#29]
I'd like to see and NBC news anchor try to cut it, with any tool. Thatd be humorous.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:35:02 AM EDT
[#30]
A welder with some angle iron could turn the wall into a ladder on the Mexican side.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:35:20 AM EDT
[#31]
A welder with some angle iron could turn the wall into a ladder on the Mexican side.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:36:05 AM EDT
[#32]
A quickie saw with the right blade can get through just about anything.. they'll probably hit them with vehicles, build tunnels, or climb them with ladders....
The wall is a deterrent, not a be-all, end-all. Wall + patrol would be a hell of a lot more effective than no wall. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:36:11 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is that box steel filled with sand? |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:36:15 AM EDT
[#34]
FAKE NEWS.
That was a cutting torch they used, besides WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? So we go back to reinforced concrete. No problem, thanks for pointing that out. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:36:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Do we trust the Fake News to report honestly and accurately on an issue they are not in favor of?
Because I don't. That could be a manufacturer supplied cutaway demo for all we know. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:36:53 AM EDT
[#36]
Very easy to put sensors along the wall to detect physical attacks on the infrastructure.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:37:03 AM EDT
[#37]
The DEMS would be cutting it open for them who are we fooling.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:37:22 AM EDT
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Concrete wall LOL at concrete being cheaper; not out in the middle of nowhere it isn't. It's far slower too, for you "we need a wall yesterday" guys. The only guys slipping through tiny cracks one at a time are drug mules; that's all that is cost-effective. Even half ass patrols will keep vehicle-sized breaches from flowing or being created. Make a second fence behind this one, the effect is exponential (you need a lot more gas & torches, which is more money & labor costs, and less space for cargo.) Use this fence as rebar for a future reinforcement, I say. We should also give 50% of all aid to Mexico in the form of a similar fence on their southern border, and its maintenance until crossings drop. That's making Mexico pay for a border wall. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:38:35 AM EDT
[#39]
What we need is to get the engineers who designed the berlin wall. Those fuckers knew how to keep people from getting through. One thing the GDR learned was that a mere physical barrier wasn't effective. It has to be backed up with a lethal deterrent. Back then that meant soldiers with guns and no man's land with landmines and dog runs. But with today's technology, I think electronic sensors paired with weaponized drones would be cheaper and more effective.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:02 AM EDT
[#40]
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Oxy torch is VERY common outside suburbs. Cheap, compact, portable, and powerful. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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NBC said that did they? I wonder what "common tools" they were referring to because that pic looks like it took a fucking plasma cutting torch |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:14 AM EDT
[#41]
Impossible
Fire cannot melt steel. 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:19 AM EDT
[#42]
When I was working near the boarder a local said to me, " For every million dollar solution the US develops the Mexicans have a $.10 fix."
Not saying we shouldn't try. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:22 AM EDT
[#43]
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NBC said that did they? I wonder what "common tools" they were referring to because that pic looks like it took a fucking plasma cutting torch |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:26 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Barrier = force mulitplier. A barrier with zero force still yields zero force. A wall with a little bit of force yields a shitload of force. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:39:59 AM EDT
[#45]
Physical barriers are only there to delay and channel.
It must be monitored and have a QRF. But its 1000 times better than nothing. I'd rather have the "common migrant" lunging around plasma torches in the desert than cocaine or who knows what. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:40:08 AM EDT
[#46]
Democrats will open holes in the wall in all the popular crossing areas whenever they have the majority.
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:45:59 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
What we need is to get the engineers who designed the berlin wall. Those fuckers knew how to keep people from getting through. One thing the GDR learned was that a mere physical barrier wasn't effective. It has to be backed up with a lethal deterrent. Back then that meant soldiers with guns and no man's land with landmines and dog runs. But with today's technology, I think electronic sensors paired with weaponized drones would be cheaper and more effective. |
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:46:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Add sniper towers every mile set back about 500 meters from the wall. Random rotation on which ones are manned (if for some reason we can’t man them all)... drone support to keep watch. 
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:46:56 AM EDT
[#49]
The wall is essential but we need to remove the incentives for coming here. Get rid of any assistance to illegals: no free medical, no free schooling, no free food, nothing. If we catch you here illegally there should be harsh sentencing vs the bs “here’s a notice to show up for court. Now be on your way good sir/senorita.”
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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:50:54 AM EDT
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I have a dream about a joint DoD / USBP program to fly LAAR. Border guard over here, CAS over there. http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F05%2Fat-6.jpg%3Fquality%3D85 Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Add sniper towers every mile set back about 500 meters from the wall. Random rotation on which ones are manned (if for some reason we can’t man them all)... drone support to keep watch. http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/foundry/image/?q=70&w=1440&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F05%2Fat-6.jpg%3Fquality%3D85 
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