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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:45:16 PM EDT
Billions of dollars and thousands of american soldiers sacrificed, all for the Taliban to now become a modernized, more organized government and funded by the chinese who get to make new factories and mines there.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:46:49 PM EDT
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hard to find fault with China. We had 20+ years to figure it out without their interference (unless it turns out they were funding insurgency).
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:47:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:49:31 PM EDT
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Too soon?
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:49:46 PM EDT
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While we’re still playing the old school game of war wasting lives and money. China is playing the long game a just handing out unpayable loans to countries and buying them off. We’re not in a good spot here.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:50:03 PM EDT
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Colonialism never works. The only way Afghanistan ever would have been American, would have been to fully exterminate all of them.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hard to find fault with China. We had 20+ years to figure it out without their interference (unless it turns out they were funding insurgency). But some people/corporations here got very rich from us trying to win hearts and minds. Mission Successful!!! |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:52:27 PM EDT
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China and sleepy Joe you mean.
The real reason for the pull out.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hard to find fault with China. We had 20+ years to figure it out without their interference (unless it turns out they were funding insurgency). they're right next to China, of course the taliban were getting funding from them |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:54:08 PM EDT
[#9]
Is that real footage of a factory funded by China in Afghanistan, or just some random tweet?
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:54:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Billions of dollars and thousands of american soldiers sacrificed, all for the Taliban to now become a modernized, more organized government and funded by the chinese who get to make new factories and mines there. [tweet] [/tweet] 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:57:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Billions of dollars and thousands of american soldiers sacrificed, all for the Taliban to now become a modernized, more organized government and funded by the chinese who get to make new factories and mines there. [tweet] [/tweet] This pairs nicely with the thread about your kids joining the military. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 3:59:04 PM EDT
[#12]
Solar panels?
Roy |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:00:27 PM EDT
[#13]
It looks nice right up until someone walks in as a suicide bomber and blows the place up.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:00:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: they're right next to China, of course the taliban were getting funding from them https://i.insider.com/5ba8fab19c888d31358b456c?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp The Taliban also got help from the Russian GRU. In fact the Kadarov faction fought there alongside the Taliban before Ukraine, under the control of GRU. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:01:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that real footage of a factory funded by China in Afghanistan, or just some random tweet? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:01:20 PM EDT
[#16]
LGB! We were going to leave but we should not have tucked tail, abandoned so much equipment some of which is showing up in Hamas hands, technology (which Chynuh can copy), pallets of cash and some of our own people.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:01:41 PM EDT
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Could you imagine the BO in that factory. Must be unbearable.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:03:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Billions of dollars and thousands of american soldiers sacrificed, all for the Taliban to now become a modernized, more organized government and funded by the chinese who get to make new factories and mines there. [tweet] [/tweet]
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:04:05 PM EDT
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Remember when 50,000 of America’s best died in Vietnam and then the North Vietnamese won anyway and now they make our sneakers?
That was a good time, we learned a lot from that. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:05:01 PM EDT
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Ah, hajji intelligence and Chinese QC, should be awesome.
This won't work out the way either side thinks. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:07:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you imagine the BO in that factory. Must be unbearable. The bathrooms won’t last a day. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:10:11 PM EDT
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Manufacturing rubber dog shit?
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:10:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see a point in faking it. China gets cheap labor, and they get jobs. There's a bad blur toward the end. This looks like a repurposed video. Could have been made anywhere in a factory funded by anyone. I'm suspicious because it's twitter which is mostly full of shit. Eta: looks like it's an Afghan company, using Turkish equipment, funded by a rich Afghan or maybe US funded. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:11:04 PM EDT
[#24]
How else will we use up our unlimited defense budget if it’s not for rebuilding nations that have no return on investment?
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:12:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Manufacturing rubber dog shit? Fleshgoats, IEDs or fentanyl would be my guess. Neither is much for dogs. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:12:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Should have never been there. Let them have it.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:13:40 PM EDT
[#27]
I want to see that place in 5 years, it won’t look the same
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:21:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Sure. Why do you think the Chinese gave the Bidens all those millions to get out of the way so they could come in? I'm not surprised at all.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:21:54 PM EDT
[#29]
We gave them money to fund lesbian studies
China builds a manufacturing facility. These things are not the same |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:24:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:25:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While we’re still playing the old school game of war wasting lives and money. China is playing the long game a just handing out unpayable loans to countries and buying them off. We’re not in a good spot here. Chinese history is full of stories where the foolish emperor goes to war with his enemies and the wise emperor showers his enemies in gifts and offers them a peaceful retirement (with the stipulation that if they cause trouble they disappear). They probably see America as the retarded emperor archetype from their folk stories |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:26:22 PM EDT
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So basically we bombed Afghanistan into prosperity over 20 years. That's got to be a historical first.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:27:25 PM EDT
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You think this place will employ adult Afgan workers?
Naw the place will be filled with 5 - 10 year olds doing slave labor shit 12 hours a day. At least the boys will get Thursdays off for man love day. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:37:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China is giving them industrialization not gender studies. Wish I could remember which african country it was, where the president says that America only wants to complain about human rights in their country but China wants to invest and build Another interesting example is Laos, a lot of Hmong people in the US have extended relatives that now have smart phones and can ask for money on facebook, because China built a railroad to the Laotian capitol and cell towers. They had to clean up cluster munitions left by America to do this. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:40:01 PM EDT
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Our biggest mistake there was attempting to preserve their culture and heritage.
If we’d gone in and created a free trade zone and Americanized the whole place we’d have an awesome ally there. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:42:38 PM EDT
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Don't they already have enough arms and ammo and military equipment after the $billions$ in American inventory that FJB left for them?
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:49:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Sweet Taliban wage slaves to make cheap stuff for America.
Just think one day ping ping may be replaced with Lahore or Achmed. Holo sun optics made in Kabul  Imagine Ukraine getting optics to kill Russians made in Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:49:29 PM EDT
[#38]
Reminds me of who was helping and the why Granada build an airport/strip when we intervened.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:50:58 PM EDT
[#39]
Afghanistan is very rich in precious earths the Chinese know what they are doing ,
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:51:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Colonialism never works. The only way Afghanistan ever would have been American, would have been to fully exterminate all of them. This |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:54:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't they already have enough arms and ammo and military equipment after the $billions$ in American inventory that FJB left for them? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 4:57:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doubt they had much ammo, they probably sold or shot it all. That is a lot of weddings. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:01:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks nice right up until someone walks in as a suicide bomber and blows the place up. Or the Chinese turn their backs for 5 minutes and everything of value gets loaded onto a camel caravan and is sold on the black market in Pakistan |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice picture. Don’t know what relevance it has in this thread. We had our turn on the merry go round. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:25:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to see that place in 5 years, it won’t look the same I guarantee it will. That factory is going to be a shithole shortly. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:27:29 PM EDT
[#46]
Guess we showed them!
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:29:05 PM EDT
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When was the last time china wasted lives and money in something like Afghanistan?
Meanwhile they develop and profit from the shit holes we waste lives and money in. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:33:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks nice right up until someone walks in as a suicide bomber and blows the place up. Those extra random Chinese workers from the factory who never seem to do any technical or managerial work would machine gun his entire family and the Taliban would leave it alone. Kharn |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The bathrooms won’t last a day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could you imagine the BO in that factory. Must be unbearable. The bathrooms won’t last a day. Put in an overhead high-flow sprinkler head and a floor mounted garbage disposal.  Kharn |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:42:44 PM EDT
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The Afghans will turn on China eventually.......mark it down
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