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Today 4:34:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:


So a committee of coaches/SIDs or a committee of 'journalists'
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Compared to the current playoff committee, yes.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 4:40:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Interesting one for next week.

The last time Alabama was favored by 3.5 points or less against Mississippi State was in 1997.

Alabama was favored by 3 points in Tuscaloosa and State won 32-20 (the last time they won in Tuscaloosa).

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@memsu

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Comparably, I was surprised the line for this game was so high.

Especially for a rivalry game.

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Today 4:41:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Interesting one for next week.

The last time Alabama was favored by 3.5 points or less against Mississippi State was in 1997.

Alabama was favored by 3 points in Tuscaloosa and State won 32-20 (the last time they won in Tuscaloosa).

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@memsu

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Yes, this is our best shot against Bama since forever. Some Dan Mullen teams came close but playing Bama at their peak then.

Last win vs Bama was in 2007 during Nick Saban's first year.
Today 4:44:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cyclone:


Which is what it all boils down to......

Not that you might not have deserved it, but we dont like you......
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Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.


Everything I stated was true. Your 1st two statements are also true.  

Regarding your 3rd statement.  Since ranked/unranked is the problem ... Texas' victory over ranked Ohio State = daU's victory over unranked (FCS no less) Florida A&M? Assuming both remain ranked and unranked at the end of the season.



No. I'm not arguing that all wins or losses are equal. I'm arguing that the system, from the polls, to FPI, to SoS is bullshit because it spits out nonsensical results. The question is why? It's because the result IS the goal.

The blind test I posted proves it. Team 1 clearly has the superior resume. Even if you want to ignore past performances, which you can't because it's one of the very real reasons that Texas > *osu =/= CANES > Famu...the system spits out the obviously wrong result using it's own criteria.

Team 1 would be ranked 100 spots above Team 2 if they switched logos.

We agree that it's way too early for any rankings, but they do exist. It is precisely because pre-season polls exist that I posted the 2025 results for both teams. The system is supposed to rank teams so that the casual fan knows who's good, but it doesn't do that because that's not the real goal. The ultimate goal is to place logos on TV that people will watch because that's what makes the most money.

The system only exists to manipulate the end result. Team 2 is ranked because they will play and lose to the system's choice. Then the system will tout that victory as a quality win vs a "ranked opponent". Meanwhile, Team 1 will lose to a superior team and because they are not ranked, the team who defeated them will earn no points. Barely anyone will notice that the game even occurred because it'll be on ESPN+. The system's choice vs Team 2 will be the primetime game on ABC.

When selection time comes, the system's choice will be a shoo-in, never in doubt because they have X number of wins vs "ranked" teams.

It's really that simple. Pattern recognition is all it takes to see that the rankings are manipulated to produce a result.

Now I'm not saying rankings shouldn't exist. At some point of course we need to rank teams in order to determine who the best teams are at the end. There should be clearly defined observable, and consistent metrics. The bottom line should be win and you're in, but in the current system that's simply not the reality for programs on the outside looking in.

BYU should have had a chance at an at large bid. They beat Utah and made to to a conference championship game, but they were left out because of Oklahoma's "ranked" wins.

Virginia should have had a chance. They went into selection Sunday with an identical record as Alabama. They played for a conference championship and lost just like Alabama. Except Bama got blown out twice 31-17 & 28-7. The sum total of Virginia's losses was by 18 points. They even had a common opponent. Speaking of the aforementioned blowouts, Alabama lost to fsu and a month later Virginia won. There was never any doubt. Bama was getting into the playoffs.

Again, it's bullshit and it has real world effects. The favored programs rake in the cash, sign the best transfers and recruits, upgrade facilities. Meanwhile, those on the outside looking in can't afford to keep their coaching staffs intact, lose their best players to the portal and never get to showcase their programs on College Gameday. It's a fucking scam.

Bama also got excluded in 22 and 24, so Bama’s not getting the automatic bid you seem to think they are.  They can leave the playoffs at 12, go to 24, 36 or whatever and the two teams on the edges fanbases aren’t going to like it.  Since the final poll is the one that’s in the record books, let the AP or better yet Coaches poll rankings set the playoff field with the final poll before the playoffs and stick with that.  No committees, no reweighing of metrics every season.


They got the automatic bid last year. It was obvious to everyone when they jumped over ND after that "gritty" win at Auburn. Pathetic.

I'm not saying it's just Bama either. It's whoever's gonna make them the most money.

By 2022 everyone was sick of seeing Bama in the title game every year. People were starting to tune out. I was, and most of the people I talk to in real life were too. Don't believe me? Look at the numbers. They made a choice that year to exclude Bama for reasons. I think it backfired on them because the numbers were ultimately worse, but I think that's because TCU made the title game.

As for 2024, I don't even know why you would bring it up. Bama was not playoff material that year. 8 wins vs FBS teams and two bad losses.

Anyways, I don't hate Bama. I hate the system that manipulates the rankings.

But Bama wasn’t in the title game every year, all through Saban’s run.  In the mix, absolutely, but not always in the title game.


2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2020, 2021.

As a Bama fan I'm sure it was great for you, but for the average fan it was tedious.


Which is what it all boils down to......

Not that you might not have deserved it, but we dont like you......


As fun as Saban domination was it stops being 'must watch' when only a handful of fanbases involved.  

B1G has been showing its top end depth quite well, even if some cheating was involved
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)

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Today 4:47:23 PM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Comparably, I was surprised the line for this game was so high.

Especially for a rivalry game.

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Our DC knows how to shut down the Ole Miss offense. Last time he faced them held them to their lowest offense production of the year.

Rivalry games anything can happen though.

Will be battle of the best QBs in the country. One athletic with years of experience vs one as first year as starter but with freaky good mechanics.
Today 4:50:30 PM EDT
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I'm here so I don't get fined.
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Today 4:55:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WDEagle][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:


As fun as Saban domination was it stops being 'must watch' when only a handful of fanbases involved.  

B1G has been showing its top end depth quite well, even if some cheating was involved
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Since Saban's arrival at bama in 2007.

CFP National Champs
SEC - bama/UGa/LSU
B10 - Indianna/Ohio State/Michigan*
ACC - Clemson
B12 - N/A

BCS National Champs
SEC - bama/UF/LSU/Auburn
B10 - N/A
ACC - FSU
B12 - N/A

So, B10 with three* different National Champs "shows depth at the top" while the SEC with five different National Champs shows "Saban domination?"
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!
Today 4:56:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer][Edited] [#8]
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Originally Posted By memsu:


Our DC knows how to shut down the Ole Miss offense. Last time he faced them held them to their lowest offense production of the year.

Rivalry games anything can happen though.

Will be battle of the best QBs in the country. One athletic with years of experience vs one as first year as starter but with freaky good mechanics.
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Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Comparably, I was surprised the line for this game was so high.

Especially for a rivalry game.

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Our DC knows how to shut down the Ole Miss offense. Last time he faced them held them to their lowest offense production of the year.

Rivalry games anything can happen though.

Will be battle of the best QBs in the country. One athletic with years of experience vs one as first year as starter but with freaky good mechanics.

TBF, that was 4 years ago and there are zero Ole Miss players from that team on the 2026 team.

Hopefully, it’s an entertaining game. I’d be happy if it was even half as entertaining as the LSU @ Ole Miss game last week.
Today 5:32:19 PM EDT
[#9]
Campus is a madhouse

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Today 5:32:30 PM EDT
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Today 5:39:30 PM EDT
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I threw $20 on NW +20.5. Probably could've lit it on fire but this will at least make it interesting. I'm not sold on the B1G, I think they're back to being garbage.
Today 7:07:35 PM EDT
[#12]
LFG Army!
Today 7:10:54 PM EDT
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@Rebel31 you better read COC before posting pic like that

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The impossible takes a little longer
Today 7:23:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrHold:
@Rebel31 you better read COC before posting pic like that

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As a Hoosier
What would Ragnar Danneskjöld do?

ARFBORTION 2016 survivor :(
Today 7:25:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrHold:
@Rebel31 you better read COC before posting pic like that

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That's someone’s BOTD

Today 7:27:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By scully:


As a Hoosier
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That's someone’s BOTD

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looking at it again does she have 4 tits like cow
The difficult we can do immediately
The impossible takes a little longer
Today 7:58:36 PM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

That's someone’s BOTD

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Jesus Christ sir!
Today 8:06:57 PM EDT
[#18]
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looking at it again does she have 4 tits like cow
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Having worked a dairy farm, I wouldn’t have milked that heifer
What would Ragnar Danneskjöld do?

ARFBORTION 2016 survivor :(
Today 8:07:14 PM EDT
[#19]
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Originally Posted By memsu:


Yes, this is our best shot against Bama since forever. Some Dan Mullen teams came close but playing Bama at their peak then.

Last win vs Bama was in 2007 during Nick Saban's first year.
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Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Interesting one for next week.

The last time Alabama was favored by 3.5 points or less against Mississippi State was in 1997.

Alabama was favored by 3 points in Tuscaloosa and State won 32-20 (the last time they won in Tuscaloosa).

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_1698_jpeg-3832665.JPG

@memsu



Yes, this is our best shot against Bama since forever. Some Dan Mullen teams came close but playing Bama at their peak then.

Last win vs Bama was in 2007 during Nick Saban's first year.


Its always a pretty tough game
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Today 8:23:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Damn, hell of a stop.
When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.
Today 8:29:08 PM EDT
[#21]
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Originally Posted By MrHold:
@Rebel31 you better read COC before posting pic like that

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How about some skirts?

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Today 8:32:05 PM EDT
[#22]
QB for Navy is pretty incredible.
Today 8:40:22 PM EDT
[#23]
No clue who wins the game on Saturday but Vols Twitter has been trolling Texas hard this week, with all sorts of Indian jokes.

Monk
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Today 8:56:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Today the jets practiced the flyover for the game in Athens tomorrow and my windows rattled. Had to be F35's I mean it was disturbingly loud.

Anyone else hear them?
Taste the biscuit . . . . .

Taste the goodness of the biscuit . . . .
Today 9:10:35 PM EDT
[#25]
NW looks horrible. The Deons made them look legit last weekend, Colorado is just BAD.
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Today 9:12:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
NW looks horrible. The Deons made them look legit last weekend, Colorado is just BAD.
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I see that Chiles has improved.

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Today 9:17:12 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By cyclone:


Its always a pretty tough game
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Originally Posted By cyclone:
Originally Posted By memsu:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Interesting one for next week.

The last time Alabama was favored by 3.5 points or less against Mississippi State was in 1997.

Alabama was favored by 3 points in Tuscaloosa and State won 32-20 (the last time they won in Tuscaloosa).

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_1698_jpeg-3832665.JPG

@memsu



Yes, this is our best shot against Bama since forever. Some Dan Mullen teams came close but playing Bama at their peak then.

Last win vs Bama was in 2007 during Nick Saban's first year.


Its always a pretty tough game

Many times they’ve played their best game of the year against us, usually lots of hard hitting.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 9:20:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Was that a really weird Trump commercial during the Indiana game?
What would Ragnar Danneskjöld do?

ARFBORTION 2016 survivor :(
Today 9:21:16 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By scully:
Was that a really weird Trump commercial during the Indiana game?
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Yes.
When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.
Today 9:32:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By scully:
Was that a really weird Trump commercial during the Indiana game?
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Made my eyes hurt.
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio,
contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium.
Vivat Iesus.
Today 9:33:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Interesting decision making from the NW QB
Today 9:36:08 PM EDT
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Its part of the Chiles experience.  Yoloing a ball into double coverage is as well.
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Today 9:51:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Has anyone posted the full schedule for tomorrow?
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Today 10:04:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Ill say Northwesterns defense sure came to play.
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Today 10:09:56 PM EDT
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Has anyone posted the full schedule for tomorrow?
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@TxLewis

Posted on Page 1/Post 2 earlier in the week.

Here it is as well.
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Today 10:13:14 PM EDT
[#36]
NW hanging in there with last years CFB champ.
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Today 10:16:11 PM EDT
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NW hanging in there with last years CFB champ.
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I like going for it on 4th.  Taking the FG would've been a moral victory move.
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Today 10:18:01 PM EDT
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Made my eyes hurt.
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Originally Posted By scully:
Was that a really weird Trump commercial during the Indiana game?

Made my eyes hurt.


At the end it said
Payed for a the us government

Right? I’ve admittedly been drinking
What would Ragnar Danneskjöld do?

ARFBORTION 2016 survivor :(
Today 10:20:39 PM EDT
[#39]
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At the end it said
Payed for a the us government

Right? I’ve admittedly been drinking
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Yes.  It's a paid public service anouncement.
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Today 10:23:38 PM EDT
[#40]
RGknee
Please, just stop talking.
Today 10:24:46 PM EDT
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RGknee
Please, just stop talking.
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I already turned down the sound back in the 1st quarter.
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Today 10:29:09 PM EDT
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I already turned down the sound back in the 1st quarter.
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Smart man.
I am about to do the same thing.
I was watching split screen Navy UAB game listening to that audio and switched a few minutes ago to this.
Today 10:45:30 PM EDT
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Today 10:50:34 PM EDT
[#44]
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Skywarp2203 is looking like a mad genius! Lol
Today 11:03:12 PM EDT
[#45]
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I'm not impressed by either team.
Today 11:21:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Beebe with Indiana was one of the best offensive weapons for UAB the last few seasons.

Dude’s a playmaker.

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