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Yesterday 2:35:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mardoc:

10 people may be generous.
She and Herbie are two big reasons I like to watch the Skycam. Most of the time no cut aways to her or listening to him.

I know no one that ever watches a game because of the sideline reporter.
Ms Piggy, has a very high opinion of herself.  
Be me giving the post game interview with her:
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Originally Posted By mardoc:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

As much as Pollack being fired sucks, I can at least understand the logic of giving loud, obnoxious attention-whores like Stephen Smith and Pat McAfee massive contracts while firing guys who make less than 10% of their salaries because they are good for ratings (though I’m definitely not a fan of either). However, with Holly Rowe, it makes ZERO sense. Outside of her friends and family, there might be 10 people on planet earth who will watch a game or a show because she is in it. If anything, she drives people away compared to what a hot 20-something would do.

Sorry to hear about Mrs Pollack.

10 people may be generous.
She and Herbie are two big reasons I like to watch the Skycam. Most of the time no cut aways to her or listening to him.

I know no one that ever watches a game because of the sideline reporter.
Ms Piggy, has a very high opinion of herself.  
Be me giving the post game interview with her:
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I still have no idea why he got the NFL Thursday Night Football color commentator gig.

He never played in the NFL.

He never coached in the NFL.

He never even covered the NFL.
Yesterday 2:44:53 PM EDT
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Looking at the UT vs UT game, it dawned on me that Georgia won’t play either team this regular season. That felt weird considering the last time they didn’t play Tennessee was in the early 90s and it feels like Georgia played Texas about 87 times since Texas recently joined the SEC.

Also, I’m a little surprised that #1 Texas @ #14 Tennessee has the early kickoff time while #23 A&M @ #10 LSU is in prime time. The battle of the UTs seems like the bigger game, IMO.

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Yesterday 4:16:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Currently +1000 if you’re feeling confident.
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
Originally Posted By The-Bald-Monk:
Originally Posted By churrasco:
Biggest clowns is CFB:

1a. Deion Sanders
1b. Fran Brown

No Lane train?

Monk


LSU's gonna win the SEC.

Currently +1000 if you’re feeling confident.


I don't bet, on anything, especially sports. I got LSU v UGA in the SECCG.

There's only one Trinidad Chambliss
Yesterday 7:45:05 PM EDT
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They're not even hiding it anymore. 5 SEC in the playoffs last year wasn't enough.
Yesterday 8:25:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: churrasco][Edited] [#5]
Blind test:

2025 results:

Team 1
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 6
Record vs P4 - 8-3

Team 2
Ws vs teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 3-7

2026 results:

Team 1
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 2-0

Team 2
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 2
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Guess which team is currently ranked.
Yesterday 8:44:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
Blind test:

2025 results:

Team 1
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 6
Record vs P4 - 8-3

Team 2
Ws vs teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 3-7

2026 results:

Team 1
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 2-0

Team 2
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 2
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Guess which team is currently ranked.
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What does 2025 have to do with 2026 rankings?
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Yesterday 8:53:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lilMAC25][Edited] [#7]
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
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They're not even hiding it anymore. 5 SEC in the playoffs last year wasn't enough.
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Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.
Yesterday 8:57:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.
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Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.
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Yesterday 9:19:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: churrasco][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:


What does 2025 have to do with 2026 rankings?
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By churrasco:
Blind test:

2025 results:

Team 1
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 6
Record vs P4 - 8-3

Team 2
Ws vs teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 3-7

2026 results:

Team 1
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 2-0

Team 2
3-0
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 2
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Guess which team is currently ranked.


What does 2025 have to do with 2026 rankings?


Ok, let's ignore all of the things that happened 9 months ago.

Here's a simple metric:

Record vs P4 - 2-0
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Who's ranked?

ETA: Do you really think that this isn't relevant at all?

Team 1
Ws vs FBS teams >.500 - 6
Record vs P4 - 8-3

Team 2
Ws vs teams >.500 - 1
Record vs P4 - 3-7

6 v 1
8-3 v 3-7

No?


Yesterday 9:22:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By churrasco:


Ok, let's ignore all of the things that happened 9 months ago.

Here's a simple metric:

Record vs P4 - 2-0
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Who's ranked?
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I thought we both agreed that it's way too early for any rankings.
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Yesterday 9:39:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:


I thought we both agreed that it's way too early for any rankings.
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By churrasco:


Ok, let's ignore all of the things that happened 9 months ago.

Here's a simple metric:

Record vs P4 - 2-0
Record vs P4 - 1-0

Who's ranked?


I thought we both agreed that it's way too early for any rankings.


Yes, we do.


Yesterday 10:10:23 PM EDT
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A third shade of orange to debate!
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Originally Posted By TXBO:
A third shade of orange to debate!

Yesterday 10:27:16 PM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
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They're not even hiding it anymore. 5 SEC in the playoffs last year wasn't enough.
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B1G was ok with this.   I think they said ok to get the SEC on board first a 24 team playoff.
“Budster, there’s a half-naked woman in your bedroom feeding pizza to some fish and she’s all yours.”
Yesterday 10:29:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Wow Coastal Carolina is trash. Sad.
Today 12:11:37 AM EDT
[#15]
Y’all have no idea how glad I am that this weekend we have a 6pm kickoff and the temp is going to be about 80° at kickoff. Game 1 we had over 100 calls to first aid and EMS for heat illnesses and had over 75 this past weekend.

I read that at games when Trump attends, whenever he is on the move, all comms get cut. That goes from gate operations to coaching headsets.

I’m out on that.
Today 12:35:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By churrasco:


LSU's gonna win the SEC.
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Kinda wish they would.  And even go on to win playoff.


Lot easier swallowing embarrassment by a great team rather than a middle of the pack also ran.......
Today 6:45:29 AM EDT
[#17]
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
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They're not even hiding it anymore. 5 SEC in the playoffs last year wasn't enough.
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changing metrics in the middle of a season. might was well be nascar. assholes

So this is what it looks like from inside looking out at the death of a republic.
Today 7:30:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.
Today 9:35:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WDEagle][Edited] [#19]
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Originally Posted By churrasco:


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.
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Originally Posted By churrasco:
Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.


Everything I stated was true. Your 1st two statements are also true.  

Regarding your 3rd statement.  Since ranked/unranked is the problem ... Texas' victory over ranked Ohio State = daU's victory over unranked (FCS no less) Florida A&M? Assuming both remain ranked and unranked at the end of the season.

WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!!!!
Today 9:42:59 AM EDT
[#20]
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Today 10:35:37 AM EDT
[#21]
There will be 4 games played between AP ranked SEC teams tomorrow.

The matchup ABC selected for the prime time slot is not only the one with the biggest spread, but it’s currently the biggest spread by more than a field goal.
Today 10:39:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By aggiesq:
changing metrics in the middle of a season. might was well be nascar. assholes
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It's a better metric than the CFP's "What the film tells them" metric they use to rank teams.





Monk
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Today 11:02:30 AM EDT
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Army 31 Temple 20

Rutgers 22 Howard 20

Northwestern 31 Indiana 30

Cal 34 Clemson 24
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Today 11:05:33 AM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By Skywarp2203:


Army 31 Temple 20

Rutgers 22 Howard 20

Northwestern 31 Indiana 30

Cal 34 Clemson 24
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Today 11:13:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skywarp2203:

Army 31 Temple 20

Rutgers 22 Howard 20

Northwestern 31 Indiana 30

Cal 34 Clemson 24
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Well, I’ll say this for you. At least you don’t do what most pickers do and play it ultra safe by picking big favorites to win SU.

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Today 11:16:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Well, I’ll say this for you. At least you don’t do what most pickers do and play it ultra safe by picking big favorites to win SU.

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I both want NW to be BAD and suck, but also good and beat IU.
"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
Today 11:26:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Well, I’ll say this for you. At least you don’t do what most pickers do and play it ultra safe by picking big favorites to win SU.

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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
Originally Posted By Skywarp2203:

Army 31 Temple 20

Rutgers 22 Howard 20

Northwestern 31 Indiana 30

Cal 34 Clemson 24

Well, I’ll say this for you. At least you don’t do what most pickers do and play it ultra safe by picking big favorites to win SU.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_1693_jpeg-3832557.JPG


Indiana is due to lose a game they shouldn’t.   Northwestern is feeling good after that win against Deion Sanders, we I mean Colorado.
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Today 11:27:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By redseven11b:
Originally Posted By Skywarp2203:


Army 31 Temple 20

Rutgers 22 Howard 20

Northwestern 31 Indiana 30

Cal 34 Clemson 24

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Blasphemy
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Today 11:28:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By laxman09:

I both want NW to be BAD and suck, but also good and beat IU.
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:

Well, I’ll say this for you. At least you don’t do what most pickers do and play it ultra safe by picking big favorites to win SU.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_1693_jpeg-3832557.JPG

I both want NW to be BAD and suck, but also good and beat IU.


The inner workings of a college football fan.

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Today 12:02:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
There will be 4 games played between AP ranked SEC teams tomorrow.

The matchup ABC selected for the prime time slot is not only the one with the biggest spread, but it’s currently the biggest spread by more than a field goal.
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Please refrain from using the terms ranked or SEC (and especially ranked SEC together.)  It really rustles jimmies here.

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Today 12:04:34 PM EDT
[#31]
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Today 12:21:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)

Swing Your Sword
Today 12:22:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:


Everything I stated was true. Your 1st two statements are also true.  

Regarding your 3rd statement.  Since ranked/unranked is the problem ... Texas' victory over ranked Ohio State = daU's victory over unranked (FCS no less) Florida A&M? Assuming both remain ranked and unranked at the end of the season.

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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By churrasco:
Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.


Everything I stated was true. Your 1st two statements are also true.  

Regarding your 3rd statement.  Since ranked/unranked is the problem ... Texas' victory over ranked Ohio State = daU's victory over unranked (FCS no less) Florida A&M? Assuming both remain ranked and unranked at the end of the season.



No. I'm not arguing that all wins or losses are equal. I'm arguing that the system, from the polls, to FPI, to SoS is bullshit because it spits out nonsensical results. The question is why? It's because the result IS the goal.

The blind test I posted proves it. Team 1 clearly has the superior resume. Even if you want to ignore past performances, which you can't because it's one of the very real reasons that Texas > *osu =/= CANES > Famu...the system spits out the obviously wrong result using it's own criteria.

Team 1 would be ranked 100 spots above Team 2 if they switched logos.

We agree that it's way too early for any rankings, but they do exist. It is precisely because pre-season polls exist that I posted the 2025 results for both teams. The system is supposed to rank teams so that the casual fan knows who's good, but it doesn't do that because that's not the real goal. The ultimate goal is to place logos on TV that people will watch because that's what makes the most money.

The system only exists to manipulate the end result. Team 2 is ranked because they will play and lose to the system's choice. Then the system will tout that victory as a quality win vs a "ranked opponent". Meanwhile, Team 1 will lose to a superior team and because they are not ranked, the team who defeated them will earn no points. Barely anyone will notice that the game even occurred because it'll be on ESPN+. The system's choice vs Team 2 will be the primetime game on ABC.

When selection time comes, the system's choice will be a shoo-in, never in doubt because they have X number of wins vs "ranked" teams.

It's really that simple. Pattern recognition is all it takes to see that the rankings are manipulated to produce a result.

Now I'm not saying rankings shouldn't exist. At some point of course we need to rank teams in order to determine who the best teams are at the end. There should be clearly defined observable, and consistent metrics. The bottom line should be win and you're in, but in the current system that's simply not the reality for programs on the outside looking in.

BYU should have had a chance at an at large bid. They beat Utah and made to to a conference championship game, but they were left out because of Oklahoma's "ranked" wins.

Virginia should have had a chance. They went into selection Sunday with an identical record as Alabama. They played for a conference championship and lost just like Alabama. Except Bama got blown out twice 31-17 & 28-7. The sum total of Virginia's losses was by 18 points. They even had a common opponent. Speaking of the aforementioned blowouts, Alabama lost to fsu and a month later Virginia won. There was never any doubt. Bama was getting into the playoffs.

Again, it's bullshit and it has real world effects. The favored programs rake in the cash, sign the best transfers and recruits, upgrade facilities. Meanwhile, those on the outside looking in can't afford to keep their coaching staffs intact, lose their best players to the portal and never get to showcase their programs on College Gameday. It's a fucking scam.
Today 12:27:32 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to see the whole 'scouting community' fall apart and how it would affect recruiting.

Im also tired of anytime I click on an on3/rivals/247 link its just paywall central.
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Today 12:38:13 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to see the whole 'scouting community' fall apart and how it would affect recruiting.

Im also tired of anytime I click on an on3/rivals/247 link its just paywall central.
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Originally Posted By Freakinout:


It would be interesting to see the whole 'scouting community' fall apart and how it would affect recruiting.

Im also tired of anytime I click on an on3/rivals/247 link its just paywall central.


I remember in the late 90s, early 2000’s when it was all free.
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Today 12:53:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By The-Bald-Monk:

It's a better metric than the CFP's "What the film tells them" metric they use to rank teams.





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Conferences set the schedule. Few teams play outside the conference. Schedules are set way in advance. Hard to say this team has a tougher schedule nowadays.
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Today 12:55:45 PM EDT
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Rivals and On3 will dry up and blow away when they can't sell their often wrong evaluations
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Today 1:07:54 PM EDT
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Today 1:11:33 PM EDT
[#39]
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Please refrain from using the terms ranked or SEC (and especially ranked SEC together.)  It really rustles jimmies here.

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At least we won't have to hear ranked and Auburn in the same sentence (after this one).
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Today 1:14:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brundoggie:

At least we won't have to hear ranked and Auburn in the same sentence (after this one).
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"Life is Hard, its Harder if You're Stupid" - John Wayne
Today 1:23:54 PM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.

Spicy
Today 2:20:50 PM EDT
[#42]
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Originally Posted By churrasco:


No. I'm not arguing that all wins or losses are equal. I'm arguing that the system, from the polls, to FPI, to SoS is bullshit because it spits out nonsensical results. The question is why? It's because the result IS the goal.

The blind test I posted proves it. Team 1 clearly has the superior resume. Even if you want to ignore past performances, which you can't because it's one of the very real reasons that Texas > *osu =/= CANES > Famu...the system spits out the obviously wrong result using it's own criteria.

Team 1 would be ranked 100 spots above Team 2 if they switched logos.

We agree that it's way too early for any rankings, but they do exist. It is precisely because pre-season polls exist that I posted the 2025 results for both teams. The system is supposed to rank teams so that the casual fan knows who's good, but it doesn't do that because that's not the real goal. The ultimate goal is to place logos on TV that people will watch because that's what makes the most money.

The system only exists to manipulate the end result. Team 2 is ranked because they will play and lose to the system's choice. Then the system will tout that victory as a quality win vs a "ranked opponent". Meanwhile, Team 1 will lose to a superior team and because they are not ranked, the team who defeated them will earn no points. Barely anyone will notice that the game even occurred because it'll be on ESPN+. The system's choice vs Team 2 will be the primetime game on ABC.

When selection time comes, the system's choice will be a shoo-in, never in doubt because they have X number of wins vs "ranked" teams.

It's really that simple. Pattern recognition is all it takes to see that the rankings are manipulated to produce a result.

Now I'm not saying rankings shouldn't exist. At some point of course we need to rank teams in order to determine who the best teams are at the end. There should be clearly defined observable, and consistent metrics. The bottom line should be win and you're in, but in the current system that's simply not the reality for programs on the outside looking in.

BYU should have had a chance at an at large bid. They beat Utah and made to to a conference championship game, but they were left out because of Oklahoma's "ranked" wins.

Virginia should have had a chance. They went into selection Sunday with an identical record as Alabama. They played for a conference championship and lost just like Alabama. Except Bama got blown out twice 31-17 & 28-7. The sum total of Virginia's losses was by 18 points. They even had a common opponent. Speaking of the aforementioned blowouts, Alabama lost to fsu and a month later Virginia won. There was never any doubt. Bama was getting into the playoffs.

Again, it's bullshit and it has real world effects. The favored programs rake in the cash, sign the best transfers and recruits, upgrade facilities. Meanwhile, those on the outside looking in can't afford to keep their coaching staffs intact, lose their best players to the portal and never get to showcase their programs on College Gameday. It's a fucking scam.
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Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By churrasco:
Originally Posted By WDEagle:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

Win out (or only lose one) and any team in SEC, B1G, ACC, or BigXii is in.


Just win.


Hell, lose two, to unranked teams no less, miss your conference championship game and still get in.

I guessing that would only happen if the team was in the SEC.  Oh. Wait.


You forgot to add make it to the championship game by beating two SEC teams and the defending national champs. Yeah and those two "unranked" teams you lost to both won 9 games. Again, the "ranked" or "unranked" crap is the problem with the whole system.


Everything I stated was true. Your 1st two statements are also true.  

Regarding your 3rd statement.  Since ranked/unranked is the problem ... Texas' victory over ranked Ohio State = daU's victory over unranked (FCS no less) Florida A&M? Assuming both remain ranked and unranked at the end of the season.



No. I'm not arguing that all wins or losses are equal. I'm arguing that the system, from the polls, to FPI, to SoS is bullshit because it spits out nonsensical results. The question is why? It's because the result IS the goal.

The blind test I posted proves it. Team 1 clearly has the superior resume. Even if you want to ignore past performances, which you can't because it's one of the very real reasons that Texas > *osu =/= CANES > Famu...the system spits out the obviously wrong result using it's own criteria.

Team 1 would be ranked 100 spots above Team 2 if they switched logos.

We agree that it's way too early for any rankings, but they do exist. It is precisely because pre-season polls exist that I posted the 2025 results for both teams. The system is supposed to rank teams so that the casual fan knows who's good, but it doesn't do that because that's not the real goal. The ultimate goal is to place logos on TV that people will watch because that's what makes the most money.

The system only exists to manipulate the end result. Team 2 is ranked because they will play and lose to the system's choice. Then the system will tout that victory as a quality win vs a "ranked opponent". Meanwhile, Team 1 will lose to a superior team and because they are not ranked, the team who defeated them will earn no points. Barely anyone will notice that the game even occurred because it'll be on ESPN+. The system's choice vs Team 2 will be the primetime game on ABC.

When selection time comes, the system's choice will be a shoo-in, never in doubt because they have X number of wins vs "ranked" teams.

It's really that simple. Pattern recognition is all it takes to see that the rankings are manipulated to produce a result.

Now I'm not saying rankings shouldn't exist. At some point of course we need to rank teams in order to determine who the best teams are at the end. There should be clearly defined observable, and consistent metrics. The bottom line should be win and you're in, but in the current system that's simply not the reality for programs on the outside looking in.

BYU should have had a chance at an at large bid. They beat Utah and made to to a conference championship game, but they were left out because of Oklahoma's "ranked" wins.

Virginia should have had a chance. They went into selection Sunday with an identical record as Alabama. They played for a conference championship and lost just like Alabama. Except Bama got blown out twice 31-17 & 28-7. The sum total of Virginia's losses was by 18 points. They even had a common opponent. Speaking of the aforementioned blowouts, Alabama lost to fsu and a month later Virginia won. There was never any doubt. Bama was getting into the playoffs.

Again, it's bullshit and it has real world effects. The favored programs rake in the cash, sign the best transfers and recruits, upgrade facilities. Meanwhile, those on the outside looking in can't afford to keep their coaching staffs intact, lose their best players to the portal and never get to showcase their programs on College Gameday. It's a fucking scam.

Bama also got excluded in 22 and 24, so Bama’s not getting the automatic bid you seem to think they are.  They can leave the playoffs at 12, go to 24, 36 or whatever and the two teams on the edges fanbases aren’t going to like it.  Since the final poll is the one that’s in the record books, let the AP or better yet Coaches poll rankings set the playoff field with the final poll before the playoffs and stick with that.  No committees, no reweighing of metrics every season.
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