Sudden Adult Death Syndrome Thread (Page 9 of 27)
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: The vaccine hasn’t been out ten years, how could there be 10 years of data? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Show the ten years of evidence the jab is safe and stuff like cancers are not a long term threat....you should try to answer this time. I know that I personally don't have any concrete evidence or data or so called "science". But I know this, when the vaccine rolled out I was hesitant. All my family and friends and their friends and family was getting the shot. I was told by everyone I was going to die and covid would kill me blah blah blah, until I finally made my stance and told every one of them to respect my decision or fuck off so to speak. Now today everyone around me and their friends and family is having health complications and constantly sick. Some are even battling cancer, having strokes or heart attacks, organ failures you name it. And some have died. I don't want to go around saying "I told you so!" but I do want to say I told you so. I know what's going on, I know what's happening. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: The vaccine hasn’t been out ten years, how could there be 10 years of data? It's almost like they rushed an experimental vaccine using a never before successful technology into production without proper testing. |
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner: It's almost like they rushed an experimental vaccine using a never before successful technology into production without proper testing. I was expecting this. The 10 years is for the whole process, not just the data collection phases. I can’t find 10 years of data pre authorization for any vaccine. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: I was expecting this. The 10 years is for the whole process, not just the data collection phases. I can’t find 10 years of data pre authorization for any vaccine. So, an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before being created and then injected into people in a matter of months is the norm? |
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner: So, an experimental vaccine using a technology that had never been successful before being created and then injected into people in a matter of months is the norm? Of course not. There were some steps that took less time than normal, some of that was from Trump's warp speed operation. If it normally takes 2 years of begging for funds, but the government just gives you the funds, do you save roughly two years? |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: I was expecting this. The 10 years is for the whole process, not just the data collection phases. I can’t find 10 years of data pre authorization for any vaccine. "TrUsT tHe ScIeNcE" they say. If this had been developed like a regular flu shot it wouldn't be so controversial but it wasn't and you have no clue what the results will be so you can't post it....."The Science" now can only document what happens after the fact. We completed this in record time...matter of fact less than the 6 month timeline for a EUA vaccine....the FDA didn't want the trial data released...why would this be...saying because of PII is a bullshit excuse as the data collected was going to be examined later and they knew it.....that makes it worse.... as before they even started collecting data they knew the jab was horse shit and needed a cover reason. In 2020 we had medical professionals on the bandwagon saying, "THE BEST VACCINE EVER." Show me reports of the CDC, FDA, or any other medical origination not part of the Gov said this narrative was over hyped in the first 6 months. After that it became obvious as the people boasting about their vax status got kung flu anyway. Just like the fake IVM study that had fully vaccinated people in I believe it was April of 2021 in the study, it ended in like July so anywhere before then. Probably one of the studies funded by the fake crypto FTX that bought the results before they did the study. Show me why illegals can cross the boarder without even a kung flu test if it was so deadly. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Of course not. There were some steps that took less time than normal, some of that was from Trump's warp speed operation. If it normally takes 2 years of begging for funds, but the government just gives you the funds, do you save roughly two years? Some steps didn't meet the minimum criteria but hey you do you man....trust the Gov and big pharma all you want....the medical credibility as a whole is ruined for many people. Deaths over calculated Simple medications and treatments denied Gov denial of the truth, then find out they influenced people on social media and infringed on people's 1st Amendment rights Gov and State mandates against people's rights as individual what to put in their bodies Fake full FDA approval to get more to take the EUA shots (might be a real approval but show where the Fully FDA approved vaccine is being given) The AMA threating medical professionals that don't follow the narrative Vaccinated getting sick more often than the purebloods overall. This is just a small sample of what really happened, your more than welcome to put your head in the sand and pretend everything is "just peachy" but good luck convincing others that can see all the bullshit that has happened. |
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner: It's almost like they rushed an experimental vaccine using a never before successful technology into production without proper testing. Originally Posted By g8rgunner: Originally Posted By Sokarul: The vaccine hasn’t been out ten years, how could there be 10 years of data? It's almost like they rushed an experimental vaccine using a never before successful technology into production without proper testing. They shitcanned whole cell pertussis and oral polio vaccines over rare adverse effects. But mRNA is okie dokie even with the adverse effects. |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: "TrUsT tHe ScIeNcE" they say. If this had been developed like a regular flu shot it wouldn't be so controversial but it wasn't and you have no clue what the results will be so you can't post it....."The Science" now can only document what happens after the fact. We completed this in record time...matter of fact less than the 6 month timeline for a EUA vaccine....the FDA didn't want the trial data released...why would this be...saying because of PII is a bullshit excuse as the data collected was going to be examined later and they knew it.....that makes it worse.... as before they even started collecting data they knew the jab was horse shit and needed a cover reason. In 2020 we had medical professionals on the bandwagon saying, "THE BEST VACCINE EVER." Show me reports of the CDC, FDA, or any other medical origination not part of the Gov said this narrative was over hyped in the first 6 months. After that it became obvious as the people boasting about their vax status got kung flu anyway. Just like the fake IVM study that had fully vaccinated people in I believe it was April of 2021 in the study, it ended in like July so anywhere before then. Probably one of the studies funded by the fake crypto FTX that bought the results before they did the study. Show me why illegals can cross the boarder without even a kung flu test if it was so deadly. I don't know what you are going on about. Illegals have nothing to do with this thread. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: I don't know what you are going on about. Illegals have nothing to do with this thread. Deflecting much? The point is if it was such a big damn deal why is this administration letting millions of untested unvaccinated illegals in the country while trying to mandate and villainize their own civilians? |
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Originally Posted By Jeff_1: Deflecting much? The point is if it was such a big damn deal why is this administration letting millions of untested unvaccinated illegals in the country while trying to mandate and villainize their own civilians? Sure, it’s deflecting or whatever. There is too much spam to make any other type of post. Never mind he “deflected” when presented with information his request for 10 years of data is still wrong. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Sure, it’s deflecting or whatever. There is too much spam to make any other type of post. Never mind he “deflected” when presented with information his request for 10 years of data is still wrong. Okay Sokarul... now show us where the anti-vaxxer hurt you. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Sure, it’s deflecting or whatever. There is too much spam to make any other type of post. Never mind he “deflected” when presented with information his request for 10 years of data is still wrong. I said I want to see 10 years of data, I never said the Gov required it though I think they should. You still deny all sorts of stuff and can't answer simple questions. Not my fault your ill prepared to answer the obvious questions with solid answers. |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: I said I want to see 10 years of data, I never said the Gov required it though I think they should. You still deny all sorts of stuff and can't answer simple questions. Not my fault your ill prepared to answer the obvious questions with solid answers. Yes and you have in the past. We already had this discussion a couple times. Other vaccines don't have 10 years of data before they were authorized. The whole process normally takes 10 years, not the data collection. Also we have talked about how you couldn't even analyze 10 years of raw data if it was given to you. |
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Originally Posted By speedracer422: Noooice. https://i.postimg.cc/dtWbXsd4/Screenshot-20230108-212520.png Very informative post. A+ would read again. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Very informative post. A+ would read again. Originally Posted By Sokarul: Originally Posted By speedracer422: Noooice. https://i.postimg.cc/dtWbXsd4/Screenshot-20230108-212520.png Very informative post. A+ would read again. You're free to re read your posts as much as you like, but it's a bit odd to rate them. Do your thing though "doc".  |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Yes and you have in the past. We already had this discussion a couple times. Other vaccines don't have 10 years of data before they were authorized. The whole process normally takes 10 years, not the data collection. Also we have talked about how you couldn't even analyze 10 years of raw data if it was given to you. Maybe not 10 years of data but usually have at least 7 years in the timeline. TIME RULES ALL in these situations, not enough time to look at all the issues you might have created can lead to mass problems later. How many mRNA jabs have been fully FDA approved before the kung flu jabs? What were the results of the previous mRNA trails done on rats/mice? You have said before if they do the study and get the results in usually the first 5. Say in the next 3-5 if everyone in the study they gave "insert drug here" died and everyone that got the placebo lived....would it still be given approval. You responded with a yes for the most part. I think this totally asinine and the reason "the science" is bullshit and why we are today. Kung Flu has over a 99% survival rate....if say 87% of the vaccinated died of cancer in 10 years would you take the jab? If you say that can't happen you need to prove it, if you can't prove it your guessing. |
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Either put it on ignore or just screenshot it's posts. They seem to dislike that. It's not going away anytime soon lol. The good doctor   is here to stay.Honestly, it's tamer than the last wave of pfanatics. I say ignore it. If we all stop responding, it will eventually just shrivel away... Edit: fuck it I'll start. It's on my ignore list. I suggest everyone else do the same and we can go back to actual discussions if you want. |
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Maybe not 10 years of data but usually have at least 7 years in the timeline. TIME RULES ALL in these situations, not enough time to look at all the issues you might have created can lead to mass problems later. How many mRNA jabs have been fully FDA approved before the kung flu jabs? What were the results of the previous mRNA trails done on rats/mice? You have said before if they do the study and get the results in usually the first 5. Say in the next 3-5 if everyone in the study they gave "insert drug here" died and everyone that got the placebo lived....would it still be given approval. You responded with a yes for the most part. I think this totally asinine and the reason "the science" is bullshit and why we are today. Kung Flu has over a 99% survival rate....if say 87% of the vaccinated died of cancer in 10 years would you take the jab? If you say that can't happen you need to prove it, if you can't prove it your guessing. Sure, we will have this discussion again. I have not said they do the study and get the results in the first 5. They saved multiple years multiple times in the whole process. The vaccine took days to fund, not years. They had people ready to participate lined up, not having to look for a year. They process of actually developing it, took weeks, not years. They ran phase I and phase II trials at the same time. There were more resources put into the process. The FDA reviewed it much faster. All of these save time. The mice study is a myth. Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. You're right, 87% of the population isn't vaccinated probably more like less than 50%. In my area from the people I ask its less than 25% but admit that is biased data.....but even at work where we had a mandate we have less than 71% jabbed, if I don't know I leave them in the jabbed column so could be way less than that. That said I am not wishing for it to happen either but if it does there is nothing I can do to prevent it. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Sure, we will have this discussion again. I have not said they do the study and get the results in the first 5. They saved multiple years multiple times in the whole process. The vaccine took days to fund, not years. They had people ready to participate lined up, not having to look for a year. They process of actually developing it, took weeks, not years. They ran phase I and phase II trials at the same time. There were more resources put into the process. The FDA reviewed it much faster. All of these save time. The mice study is a myth. Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. So, which phase was it where they vaccinated their control group, basically making their study worthless? |
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner: So, which phase was it where they vaccinated their control group, basically making their study worthless? Originally Posted By g8rgunner: Originally Posted By Sokarul: Sure, we will have this discussion again. I have not said they do the study and get the results in the first 5. They saved multiple years multiple times in the whole process. The vaccine took days to fund, not years. They had people ready to participate lined up, not having to look for a year. They process of actually developing it, took weeks, not years. They ran phase I and phase II trials at the same time. There were more resources put into the process. The FDA reviewed it much faster. All of these save time. The mice study is a myth. Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. So, which phase was it where they vaccinated their control group, basically making their study worthless? That was the $$$$ phase. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: Sure, we will have this discussion again. I have not said they do the study and get the results in the first 5. They saved multiple years multiple times in the whole process. The vaccine took days to fund, not years. They had people ready to participate lined up, not having to look for a year. They process of actually developing it, took weeks, not years. They ran phase I and phase II trials at the same time. There were more resources put into the process. The FDA reviewed it much faster. All of these save time. The mice study is a myth. Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. Originally Posted By Sokarul: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Maybe not 10 years of data but usually have at least 7 years in the timeline. TIME RULES ALL in these situations, not enough time to look at all the issues you might have created can lead to mass problems later. How many mRNA jabs have been fully FDA approved before the kung flu jabs? What were the results of the previous mRNA trails done on rats/mice? You have said before if they do the study and get the results in usually the first 5. Say in the next 3-5 if everyone in the study they gave "insert drug here" died and everyone that got the placebo lived....would it still be given approval. You responded with a yes for the most part. I think this totally asinine and the reason "the science" is bullshit and why we are today. Kung Flu has over a 99% survival rate....if say 87% of the vaccinated died of cancer in 10 years would you take the jab? If you say that can't happen you need to prove it, if you can't prove it your guessing. Sure, we will have this discussion again. I have not said they do the study and get the results in the first 5. They saved multiple years multiple times in the whole process. The vaccine took days to fund, not years. They had people ready to participate lined up, not having to look for a year. They process of actually developing it, took weeks, not years. They ran phase I and phase II trials at the same time. There were more resources put into the process. The FDA reviewed it much faster. All of these save time. The mice study is a myth. Any thought on cancer in 10 years would just be a guess. I bet though you are not preparing for 87% of the country to die within 10 years. The study is on the humans.  |
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Originally Posted By S13: Agree. The mice study IS a myth. The study is on the humans. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/29486/Fiyn35VWYAM2n7L-2619865.jpg They tested the Covid vaccines in 2012? Tell me more. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: They tested the Covid vaccines in 2012? Tell me more. Originally Posted By Sokarul: Originally Posted By S13: Agree. The mice study IS a myth. The study is on the humans. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/29486/Fiyn35VWYAM2n7L-2619865.jpg They tested the Covid vaccines in 2012? Tell me more. |
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Originally Posted By S13: Lol wut? Originally Posted By S13: Originally Posted By Sokarul: Originally Posted By S13: Agree. The mice study IS a myth. The study is on the humans. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/29486/Fiyn35VWYAM2n7L-2619865.jpg They tested the Covid vaccines in 2012? Tell me more. You agreed the mice study was a myth and claimed it was a study on humans. The study was done in 2012. Understand? |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: You agreed the mice study was a myth and claimed it was a study on humans. The study was done in 2012. Understand? The study on humans is taking place now, but you knew exactly what he meant. |
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Originally Posted By g8rgunner: The study on humans is taking place now, but you knew exactly what he meant. Originally Posted By g8rgunner: Originally Posted By Sokarul: You agreed the mice study was a myth and claimed it was a study on humans. The study was done in 2012. Understand? The study on humans is taking place now, but you knew exactly what he meant.  For this low fatality rate there was no super duper emergency to rush out an untested medication. And the mandate was unadulterated evil to force it upon us. |
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Originally Posted By S13: That is exactly what I meant. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1818/3F11F6A7-7302-43DB-8404-A8E59FB4CBA7_jpe-2664563.JPG For this low fatality rate there was no super duper emergency to rush out an untested medication. And the mandate was unadulterated evil to force it upon us. It of course was not untested. |
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Originally Posted By Sokarul: It of course was not untested. I’m genuinely curious as to what benefit do you receive to make this your hill to die on? I’m not implying you’re getting paid but most people expect some type of reward for their actions and, with the amount of work you are putting into these threads, what do you want to receive from your effort. Personally, I would have thrown my hands up and walked away by this point. But you stand alone. Why? |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: I’m genuinely curious as to what benefit do you receive to make this your hill to die on? I’m not implying you’re getting paid but most people expect some type of reward for their actions and, with the amount of work you are putting into these threads, what do you want to receive from your effort. Personally, I would have thrown my hands up and walked away by this point. But you stand alone. Why? Before I can answer that I need to know if you are talking about what you quoted or just generally speaking. |
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People have been dropping dead since the dawn of human kind. The only difference is that now every time it happens, it's reported in the news, politicized and spun into various conspiracy theories. After a long career in EMS, well before Covid was a thing, I've seen it many times. There's countless medical issues that cause seemingly healthy people to die suddenly. While only time and testing will tell if the vaccine has any connection to some of these, it's important to understand that seemingly healthy people dying suddenly has always been a thing. Just like tornadoes didn't slowly become deadlier, as the left loves to claim, the human population just expanded and more people found themselves in the path them. Correlation doesn't equal causation. |
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Originally Posted By Brandi: People have been dropping dead since the dawn of human kind. The only difference is that now every time it happens, it's reported in the news, politicized and spun into various conspiracy theories. After a long career in EMS, well before Covid was a thing, I've seen it many times. There's countless medical issues that cause seemingly healthy people to die suddenly. While only time and testing will tell if the vaccine has any connection to some of these, it's important to understand that seemingly healthy people dying suddenly has always been a thing. Just like tornadoes didn't slowly become deadlier, as the left loves to claim, the human population just expanded and more people found themselves in the path them. Correlation doesn't equal causation. |
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Originally Posted By Brandi: People have been dropping dead since the dawn of human kind. The only difference is that now every time it happens, it's reported in the news, politicized and spun into various conspiracy theories. After a long career in EMS, well before Covid was a thing, I've seen it many times. There's countless medical issues that cause seemingly healthy people to die suddenly. While only time and testing will tell if the vaccine has any connection to some of these, it's important to understand that seemingly healthy people dying suddenly has always been a thing. Just like tornadoes didn't slowly become deadlier, as the left loves to claim, the human population just expanded and more people found themselves in the path them. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Very true. The issue I see is that a lot of people don’t trust the powers that be to admit causation. |
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Originally Posted By OG1: Originally Posted By Brandi: People have been dropping dead since the dawn of human kind. The only difference is that now every time it happens, it's reported in the news, politicized and spun into various conspiracy theories. After a long career in EMS, well before Covid was a thing, I've seen it many times. There's countless medical issues that cause seemingly healthy people to die suddenly. While only time and testing will tell if the vaccine has any connection to some of these, it's important to understand that seemingly healthy people dying suddenly has always been a thing. Just like tornadoes didn't slowly become deadlier, as the left loves to claim, the human population just expanded and more people found themselves in the path them. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Supporting data continues to emerge of a significant increase over established norms. Could be covid. Could be shots. Could be a combo. We do now know both were created with massive assistance by government entities. |
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Originally Posted By Brandi: People have been dropping dead since the dawn of human kind. The only difference is that now every time it happens, it's reported in the news, politicized and spun into various conspiracy theories. After a long career in EMS, well before Covid was a thing, I've seen it many times. There's countless medical issues that cause seemingly healthy people to die suddenly. While only time and testing will tell if the vaccine has any connection to some of these, it's important to understand that seemingly healthy people dying suddenly has always been a thing. Just like tornadoes didn't slowly become deadlier, as the left loves to claim, the human population just expanded and more people found themselves in the path them. Correlation doesn't equal causation. Where you see news exaggerating deaths I see them covering it up. Lots of blurbs about Hamlin saying it certainly wasn’t the shot on networks getting millions from Pfizer in the last few days. There was plenty of evidence of danger before the shots were rolled out. It’s still emergency use only. You’re making an anecdotal argument just like I have done many times. The real metric is actuarial tables. 40% increase in death is the reported number on what I’ve seen. That cannot be denied. Different outlets report according to their bias or advertising dollars. Pfizer owns the MSM. The Hill says it’s just COVID. Alex Jones actually looks at vaccination rate as it relates to illness and death. There are a lot of scared people realizing they had a hand in this. And some are regretting it because they have a conscience and were tricked into harming their patients. |
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Originally Posted By Smokey0844: Generally speaking I was going to type a bunch but I will just say I will point it out when someone says something wrong or they use incorrect logic. Covid is an evidenced based topic, not a faith based one. |